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Hansel
post Sep 1 2015, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 1 2015, 01:49 AM)
it's quite incredible that crude gained 22% within 3 trading days!

everyone is probably shocked and confused. biggrin.gif

opec and others... won't be easy to come to an agreed production cut.

but hv no idea what the hedge funds are doing now... going long long?

just too much risk to long or short oil and energy now.

still, can't see it going past 49 so easily...
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The reports and the theory that Saudi Araba is feeling the pain now is taking shape. Saudi Arabia has strong influence in OPEC. Now OPEC is ready to talk about getting oil price to a 'proper' level, probably initiated by the Saudis.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 1 2015, 10:07 AM)
The reports and the theory that Saudi Araba is feeling the pain now is taking shape. Saudi Arabia has strong influence in OPEC. Now OPEC is ready to talk about getting oil price to a 'proper' level, probably initiated by the Saudis.
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sure they are losing sleep now.

probably finally realized triple combo of us shale, china weakness and iran coming onstream can brankrupt them bringing political troubles.

throughout history, oil has seen very violent swings with opec grip on oil price loose.

nothing is certain except uncertainty and continued volatility!
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 1 2015, 10:26 AM)
sure they are losing sleep now.

probably finally realized triple combo of us shale, china weakness and iran coming onstream can brankrupt them bringing political troubles.

throughout history, oil has seen very violent swings with opec grip on oil price loose.

nothing is certain except uncertainty and continued volatility!
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I hav confidence that if the Saiudis are wiling to sit down and talk since they have their backs against the wall, the volatility will slow down. IT's always the Saudis stirring=up the mess here in the oil mkts.

Perhaps I'll start to TT my SG dividends to North Americe and start averaging down in my oil counters. Good timing too lar,... since ASX 'does not want' me, sad.gif .. I'll go to NA rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 1 2015, 10:26 AM)
sure they are losing sleep now.

probably finally realized triple combo of us shale, china weakness and iran coming onstream can brankrupt them bringing political troubles.

throughout history, oil has seen very violent swings with opec grip on oil price loose.

nothing is certain except uncertainty and continued volatility!
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I hav confidence that if the Saiudis are wiling to sit down and talk since they have their backs against the wall, the volatility will slow down. IT's always the Saudis stirring=up the mess here in the oil mkts.

Perhaps I'll start to TT my SG dividends to North Americe and start averaging down in my oil counters. Good timing too lar,... since ASX 'does not want' me, sad.gif .. I'll go to NA rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 1 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 1 2015, 10:26 AM)
sure they are losing sleep now.

probably finally realized triple combo of us shale, china weakness and iran coming onstream can brankrupt them bringing political troubles.

throughout history, oil has seen very violent swings with opec grip on oil price loose.

nothing is certain except uncertainty and continued volatility!
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I hav confidence that if the Saiudis are wiling to sit down and talk since they have their backs against the wall, the volatility will slow down. IT's always the Saudis stirring=up the mess here in the oil mkts.

Perhaps I'll start to TT my SG dividends to North Americe and start averaging down in my oil counters. Good timing too lar,... since ASX 'does not want' me, sad.gif .. I'll go to NA rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 1 2015, 06:38 PM

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will be bloody night...

nikkei -4%, china -2%, eu -2.5%.

dow futures -3xx, $ diving.

crude rally may continue... which is strange when global equity markets are running for cover!! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 1 2015, 06:38 PM)
will be bloody night...

nikkei -4%, china -2%, eu -2.5%.

dow futures -3xx, $ diving.

crude rally may continue... which is strange when global equity markets are running for cover!! biggrin.gif
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they say market is unpredictable and illogical. Well, we are witness of them many times. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 1 2015, 06:40 PM)
they say market is unpredictable and illogical. Well, we are witness of them many times.  biggrin.gif
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ya, man...

never seen oil price go down day after day non-stop for 2 months, then gain 27% in 3 days. blink.gif

that's why i now takut...

sold off partial last week, now just wait n see...

rm still 4.18, so ok... tongue.gif


explanation... think there is simply too much cash floating around with all those funds, high speed info tech, havoc at the push of a button...

only poor folks like us here struggling, sometimes don't even know what happened...!! laugh.gif
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post Sep 1 2015, 08:56 PM

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chinaman disease arrives. fear, fear fear.
fed coming, fear, fear, fear ... ??

most r tanking 2% ... another long night rclxub.gif

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post Sep 1 2015, 09:52 PM

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Waah.. China again. doh.gif

But, let's watch that 1925-1930 level for ikan bilis opportunity. biggrin.gif
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cina ahmoi highly infectious one ma...
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 1 2015, 09:52 PM)
Waah.. China again.  doh.gif

But, let's watch that 1925-1930 level for ikan bilis opportunity.   biggrin.gif
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i am thinking, well, just my opidows futures was already -233 even BEFORE china and HS market opens. so can we blame mostly on the chinaman for this drop, or is it US markets are in correction too...and not blaming the chinaman alone?

Opps, 'your' 1925 -30 arrives. Hoot Hoot Hoot... taxi waiting ....i am getting in ....hope dows wont dip 16k.

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i recall....
nflx started to dip again since yday...due to its ended contract for epix content provider..... still dipping. very trractive comes another -2usd ?
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Sep 1 2015, 09:56 PM)
cina ahmoi highly infectious one ma...
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Sifu, market is in correction. things are looking bit chaeper everyday. just fear my itchy and indiscipline hands .... lol
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latest ...

china factory data 3 yr low ....
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post Sep 1 2015, 10:52 PM

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this tip from yesterday was good. tongue.gif

wti upper at 49 last night and low 46 now.

will see if will retest 49 or crash below 42...

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From here, the next key level of resistance comes in at 48.67, the 23.6% Fibonacci retracement, with a break above that on a daily closing basis exposing the 38.2% threshold at 52.67. Alternatively, a turn back below the intersection of falling trend line resistance-turned-support and the 14.6% Fib at 46.20 clears the way for another challenge of the August 24 low at 42.20.
http://www.dailyfx.com/forex/technical/art...end-Broken.html





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post Sep 2 2015, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 1 2015, 09:52 PM)
Waah.. China again.  doh.gif

But, let's watch that 1925-1930 level for ikan bilis opportunity.  biggrin.gif
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1920 arrived.

where is everyone?
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post Sep 2 2015, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 2 2015, 01:23 AM)
1920 arrived.

where is everyone?
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now everything down. oil down, stock down, bond down. make more sense? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 2 2015, 02:26 AM)
now everything down. oil down, stock down, bond down. make more sense?  laugh.gif
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i can't get a feel on anything... biggrin.gif

except maybe oil/energy.

oil gained 25% in 3 days, gave up 8% today.

17% more to give back! laugh.gif


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