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Investment EKOCHERAS @ JALAN CHERAS (V4) [MRT PROPERTY] [OT], Where Cheras becomes Mont'Jiulai

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post Aug 4 2015, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Aug 2 2015, 06:21 PM)
Alternatively, try Mapex exhibition at Sunway Pyramid if you can make it today.. look for D'Hill booth(Ekovest booth)..

Here was an info obtained on Friday from Mapex.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3571829/+601
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Jagalat-kor, which other property u bought. So we can also buy and we get your constant updates..😀
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post Aug 6 2015, 09:53 AM

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Jagalat kor, fr ur photos i noticed quite a number of heavy machineries on the site. Better progress than before.
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post Aug 6 2015, 07:30 PM

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xchange rate oredi 3.96 vs usd
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post Aug 10 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Aug 10 2015, 06:47 PM)
Ekovest have to rush their DUKE 2.... that is way behind schedule as well.
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mmm...i am smelling LD of 10% coming along our way for ekocheras..
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post Aug 13 2015, 04:44 PM

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Jagalat-kor, very good and detailed analysis above. Thanks.
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(sianglee @ Aug 24 2015, 09:25 PM)
Walao all rusty rebars here.......no proper cover or protection all.....all bars will suffer sectional lost after exposing for one year...
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the PRC bars will all b buried in cement and concrete soon..
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post Aug 25 2015, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 24 2015, 10:01 PM)
Yawor besi so sibeh rusty Liao. Even cover with cement how Long it can last?
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once in the cement no more air penetration so the rusting process stops.
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post Sep 1 2015, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(sianglee @ Aug 27 2015, 07:46 PM)
Bro its not the problem of continuing rusting in the concrete, its the problem of is those bars enough capacity not within the design limit. Says the design require 4nos of 20 mm diameter bars in the beams/columns, but after the rusting process left only the rusty 4 nos of 18  mm diameter  bars  100%-(18^2/20^2 x 100)=19% losses!!! ....become much insufficient, hard to tell about the real integrity of structure performance later..
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actually i noticed most contractors leave their iron bars uncovered. i think it cost them money and space to provide a cover.
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post Sep 6 2015, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(wl_n @ Sep 2 2015, 12:28 PM)
Is the structure still safe for occupancy?
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if u check other construction sites, u will notice most (if not all) also leave their metal bars outside and exposed to the sun and rain. let me noe which projects actually built a shade for these materials.
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post Sep 6 2015, 12:24 AM

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i heard fr another staff of ekocheras that saville is not managing their mall. the mall will be self managed by internal ekovest management.
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post Sep 6 2015, 09:54 PM

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block j progress looks good
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post Sep 9 2015, 12:03 AM

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if u look at successful malls besides the size (tends to be at least 1.2 m sq ft NLA at least), another impt factor is that they all are connected to or located very nearby corporate office towers that are highly occupied. Bandar Utama has 1 First Avenue, Plaza IBM, KPMG tower. These 3 office towers are fully occupied. Midvalley has Boulevard n Arcc Offices, KLCC Sunsuria has petronas twin tower office, menara maxis, menara public bank, menara TA, Wisma Selangor Dredging. Even Pavillion has Menara Standard Chartered and Wisma Genting just barely 60 metres away. These fully occupied office blocks provide constant foot traffic to the malls daily besides tourists. But tourists are seasonal only, whereas white collar offices provides the daily turnover. If ekocheras mall is to succeed, then the developer better make sure their office tower is highly occupied (80 to 90%). If not the mall will become a white elephant in due time. The residential units alone are not sufficient to fire up the mall biz. Why? bcoz most of the "normal" residents leave home at 745am (ir earlier) to go to work to beat the jam and return home at 8 to 830pm. So thr is very limited time for them to visit their mall downstairs, whereas office workers with only 1 hour lunch have not much choice but to eat inside the mall or food court as they dont have much time to venture outside. In between they will also visit retail outlets to purchase their needed items as it will b very convenient for them to do their shopping since their offices are located within the integrated project.
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post Sep 10 2015, 03:29 PM

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convesely if u see malls that are not doing so well besides smallish in size (normally below 700 sq ft NLA), they are typically surrounded by residential houses or service apartments but do not hv much integration with corporate offices which are fully tenanted. A few examples are Paradigm mall, Tropicana mall, Atria, Quill, Jaya Mall, The 19 USJ City mall and SS2 mall. These malls are not thriving as they do NOT have constant foot traffic from white collar office workers working in nearby corporate office towers. With 40 new malls set to open by next year, i wonder how these malls will survive when intense competition sets in for these retail malls.
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post Sep 10 2015, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Sep 10 2015, 06:25 PM)
one city mall , office fully tenanted n size is big also empty..
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one city mall is called The Place. Its not big. 500 sq ft NLA only and the developer also did a mistake by selling the retail space
To hv a successful mall another key factor is for the developer not to sell any of the retail space but to hold it for better tenant control.
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post Sep 10 2015, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Sep 10 2015, 05:16 PM)
So bro, what would you like to suggest for the EKC mall management team?
To monitor the performance of the 40 new plus existing old malls for the next year and re-strategize?
I hope they are reading this forum.
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EKC should look into how to get their corporate office tower be fully tenanted by MNC companies and also big listed companies. As a general rule of thumb, mncs normally pay 20 to 30% more than local companies. By getting these better paid workers into their corporate office tower, these workers have more disposable income to spend at ekomall which is good for the business of the food and retail shops. This is key to the success of ekomall. the resi units alone cannot fire up the biz of the mall. The "normal' residents at block J, H and E will leave at 730 am to work to beat d jam and rtn late maybe 8 to 830pm, not leaving them with much discretionary time 2 shop. Only the retirees got lots of time to hang around eko mall but retirees do not have active income anymore so they will be careful with their spending. This group would not be able to drive the ekomall biz. The high paid white collar workers working in the corporate office tower can drive the eko mall business. So attention should be paid to filling up ekocheras corporate office tower with mnc companies and other big stable malaysian companies who are good pay masters. The mall need to leverage on the tenants of the corporate office tower as their key stable customers, then the hotel guests and lastly the residence staying in block J, H and block E.
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post Sep 11 2015, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(guardize @ Sep 11 2015, 05:10 PM)
Just wonder how much unit left for the duplex and price available?
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just call their sales office and check or call 0127073350 (head of marketing - joe wong)
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post Sep 11 2015, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(QSquare @ Sep 11 2015, 05:07 PM)
I am pretty worried for EKC mall. Just look at Cheras Sentral and Viva Mall. They are all dead
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no integration with corporate offices..that's their downfall.
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post Sep 12 2015, 12:54 AM

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Jagalat-kor, ekocheras is having only 1 block of office tower and selling at average price of rm800 psf. I do not know what is the size of Ekocheras office suites in totality from NLA perspective. Apparently sales of their office suites have been brisk. The hotel guest can also provide foot traffic to ekocheras mall. From my view, the white collar office workers will provide the most stable foot traffic to the mall, followed by the hotel guest and lastly the residents of block J, H & E, along this order. As a comparison, upcoming MCT mall in usj will have equivalent size of 1.5 m sq ft NLA with its 3 blocks of grade A office towers which also commands 1.5m sq ft NLA From a strategic perspective, MCT got their development concept correct as they plan to bring in 15,000 white collar workers into their 3 blocks of grade A office towers. They are not selling the office blocks but will be owning the office blocks and leasing them to their chosen segment of tenants (preferable higher paying MNCs and big listed malaysian companies). This would create the perfect synergy for their MCT mall as these higher paid white collar workers will have more disposable income to spend in the mall. Sorry to hijack this forum with another project but Jagalat-kor and myself just wanted to draw a comparison between the 2 integrated projects.
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post Sep 17 2015, 06:47 PM

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i wonder if any purchasers will drop out since the 2nd payment has yet to be collected as its a slowdown for property mrk and we bought this ekocheras at its pricing peak in 2013 sept.
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post Sep 21 2015, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(jasonmatthew @ Sep 20 2015, 08:35 PM)
Thanks bro jagalat for the constant update! U r the best!
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yes fully agree on ur view of jagalat kor!

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