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Investment EKOCHERAS @ JALAN CHERAS (V4) [MRT PROPERTY] [OT], Where Cheras becomes Mont'Jiulai

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post Sep 6 2015, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(neonikson1 @ Sep 6 2015, 10:46 AM)
40 new malls entering to Klang Valley competition by next year!  Retail business faces the biggest challenge of all time!
 
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...tail/?style=biz
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There are actually more than 40, easily double or triple if u include places like Ikon Connaught as a mall and future unconfirmed ones such as Atria Cheras and Dupion Island Cheras.
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post Sep 6 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(restful increase @ Sep 6 2015, 12:24 AM)
i heard fr another staff of ekocheras that saville is not managing their mall. the mall will be self managed by internal ekovest management.
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Understand each n every businessman wants to maximise the return of investment. But they are not professional in this field, they should engaged professional to manage the mall and hotel although need to pay hefty management fee. This is high end project with the tallest building in Cheras may end up like a pasar malam project if manage by an inexperience team. it is like experiment project for them to test their internal staff capability to run mall n hotel.
How can a construction and development company run mall and hotel ?? In my opinion, they are just too selfish and put too much risk to the buyers like us!
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post Sep 6 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(soon9913 @ Sep 6 2015, 12:00 PM)
Understand each n every businessman wants to maximise the return of investment. But they are not professional in this field, they should engaged professional to manage the mall and hotel although need to pay hefty management fee. This is high end project with the tallest building in Cheras may end up like a pasar malam project if manage by an inexperience team. it is like experiment project for them to test their internal staff capability to run mall n hotel.
How can a construction and development company run mall and hotel ?? In my opinion, they are just too selfish and put too much risk to the buyers like us!
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this dev does not have even a fraction of the cash needed to hire a good retail team la.
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post Sep 6 2015, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(soon9913 @ Sep 6 2015, 12:00 PM)
Understand each n every businessman wants to maximise the return of investment. But they are not professional in this field, they should engaged professional to manage the mall and hotel although need to pay hefty management fee. This is high end project with the tallest building in Cheras may end up like a pasar malam project if manage by an inexperience team. it is like experiment project for them to test their internal staff capability to run mall n hotel.
How can a construction and development company run mall and hotel ?? In my opinion, they are just too selfish and put too much risk to the buyers like us!
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Hope this is not the case. It will be devastating if it is.

Based on its location and MRT connection, EkoCheras Mall could very well be one of the best mall in town. Don't waste it!
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post Sep 6 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Sep 6 2015, 12:09 PM)
this dev does not have even a fraction of the cash needed to hire a good retail team la.
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They have money and the major shareholder is top 20 wealthiest man in Malaysia. They bought the land 10 years back with a very cheap price and can easily get financing from it. If u see the financial report, yes it is true that the gearing of the company is high mainly due to financing for duke2 highway which is under construction.

It is just depend on how much margin they want to make from this project and whether the management is good enough to see longer term rental yield for this project by spending a little bit more money to hire a professional team to reduce the risk of this project!

I don't believe the rental can be high yield if everything also DIY ! And the appreciation of the property value also limited !
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QUOTE(soon9913 @ Sep 6 2015, 12:40 PM)
They have money and the major shareholder is top 20 wealthiest man in Malaysia. They bought the land 10 years back with a very cheap price and can easily get financing from it. If u see the financial report, yes it is true that the gearing of the company is high mainly due to financing for duke2 highway which is under construction.

It is just depend on how much margin they want to make from this project and whether the management is good enough to see longer term rental yield for this project by spending a little bit more money to hire a professional team to reduce the risk of this project!

I don't believe the rental can be high yield if everything also DIY ! And the appreciation of the property value also limited !
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post Sep 6 2015, 12:50 PM

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Come on la! First mall and hotel engaged professional to managed and at the same time setup a management team to learn from this experience then only can say in next project that our management team will bring the same success story of retail mall and hotel in ekocheras to our next flagship project - Ekotitiwangsa project!
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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Sep 6 2015, 12:46 PM)
shareholder is rich never equates to the company being rich.
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I know. What I try to say is they can do it well if sacrifice a little bit profit margin by hiring a good team for good rental yield in long term!


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post Sep 6 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(restful increase @ Sep 6 2015, 12:22 AM)
if u check other construction sites, u will notice most (if not all) also leave their metal bars outside and exposed to the sun and rain. let me noe which projects actually built a shade for these materials.
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Most smart sub cons wont stockpile these rebar in huge quantities due to the cost,just the quantities required and will be installed within short period (prevent rust issue). Some maincon or developers who thought they are smart will buy those steel bar in huge quantities (lower price as economic of scale? Or some great commissions driven)as they are much financially strong. End up tons of rusty bar left rusty onsite for years untill they are required. Thats the fact of our local construction industry, no one to be blamed here..

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QUOTE(soon9913 @ Sep 6 2015, 12:55 PM)
I know. What I try to say is they can do it well if sacrifice a little bit profit margin by hiring a good team for good rental yield in long term!
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totally agree with you. but we know the typical cinaman malaysian style businessman tongue.gif
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post Sep 6 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Sep 6 2015, 03:43 PM)
totally agree with you. but we know the typical cinaman malaysian style businessman tongue.gif
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Bro there are chinaman companies doing good job.
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post Sep 6 2015, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(soon9913 @ Sep 6 2015, 01:50 PM)
Come on la! First mall and hotel engaged professional to managed and at the same time setup a management team to learn from this experience then only can say in next project that our management team will bring the same success story of retail mall and hotel in ekocheras to our next flagship project -  Ekotitiwangsa project!
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May l suggest all buyers to feedback the concern about mall management at their BOOTH in every property exhibition/event? Buyers can suggest your idal mall management to them.

Remind them if EKC mall failed then all malls along other river also will not come to life.
At least we have done our part.

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BlkJ site taken yesterday..
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post Sep 6 2015, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Sep 6 2015, 03:18 AM)
May l suggest all buyers to feedback the concern about mall management at their BOOTH in every property exhibition/event? Buyers can suggest your idal mall management to them.

Remind them if EKC mall failed then all malls along other river also will not come to life.
At least we have done our part.
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we can feedback all we want but mall management is a diff ballgame.. most mall managers i know will say NO even to the idea of new malls with low chansi of success let alone manage them..

Progress looks good btw rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
On a side note, notice even more shops closing down n some retailers r saying a big no no to new malls.. winter has begun n we are just at the start
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block j progress looks good
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Sep 6 2015, 09:52 PM)
we can feedback all we want but mall management is a diff ballgame.. most mall managers i know will say NO even to the idea of new malls with low chansi of success let alone manage them..

Progress looks good btw  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
On a side note, notice even more shops closing down n some retailers r saying a big no no to new malls.. winter has begun n we are just at the start
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A few months, you mentioned the progress was hardly move or snail pace. (You were invited to have look. Wonder you have been to site.) With multiple feedback from buyers, the developer had finally decided to provide periodic update. Now you say progress looks good.

The EKC and its mall is the debut mixed project of EKV.
If this project fails, it will impact EKV image in subsequent projects, specially malls by the river of life.

All buyers out there, pls continue your good work to press developer and feedback about the mall. Not sure if the developer will finally employ extetnal team to manage the mall. We should not give without trying. Not try no gain. Cheers!
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post Sep 7 2015, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Sep 7 2015, 05:03 PM)
A few months, you mentioned the progress was hardly move or snail pace. (You were invited to have look. Wonder you have been to site.) With multiple feedback from buyers, the developer had finally decided to  provide periodic update. Now you say progress looks good.

The EKC and its mall is the debut mixed project of EKV.
If this project fails, it will impact EKV image in  subsequent projects, specially malls by the river of life.

All buyers out there, pls continue your good work to press developer and feedback about the mall. Not sure if the developer will finally employ extetnal team to manage the mall. We should not give without trying. Not try no gain.  Cheers!
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QUOTE(cteh2 @ Sep 7 2015, 10:32 PM)
Agree and Support
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EKC mall leasing secured by S*vills agency if I not mistaken
Patience la, planning stage. Direct compete with leisure makl

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