someone asked me earlier what async is all about. found a video that explains the situation
bottomline - nvidia async is inefficient compared to amd - but at end of day if the card fps performance still wins regardless of any inefficiencies, then this shouldn't be too big an issue. only tech wise people wish it did have proper hardware async compute similar to amds, so we can get good performance and latencies using that feature.
Thanks for sharing, absolutely brilliant explanation on async compute.
So I guess Nvidia feels async compute is 'not a big deal' and instead sheer performance > async compute gains. In the end, FPS is what matters most. It would have been cool to see Nvidia having async as well, but the way Nvidia has been building their GPU architecture as explained in the vid, it just isn't possible.
P/S: Btw, I stand corrected on the GTX 1080 - waiting for the GTX 1080 Ti would be much more sensible. Their whole Founders Edition priced higher for so-called "premium materials" just feels bollocks. Are they saying third party manufacturers can't do a better job? I get the idea they want the Founders/reference cards to be around for as long as the GPU is available but the price increase is just silly.
This post has been edited by defaultname365: May 22 2016, 08:55 AM
still thinking should i upgrade my cpu to accomodate the 980ti. 6700k feel over budget and 6600k is only 40% increase on my currect 870 which i feel not worth...
You can 'try' to save money by overclocking... ditch the stock coolers and buy some custom cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo and you can get clock speeds stable on Prime95 upto 4GHz. Mileage varies, so can always back down from a stable clock just for precaution/prolonged used. Note that the i7 870 is not meant for overclocking, but it still can give you 'limited overclock' that helps a lot. My benchmark using GTX 970, can't remember the score but I recall about 5-10% slower than where it should be.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti “Expected” Specs: •Process Node – 16nm •Transistors – 10.8 Billion •GPU Die Size – 472mm² (TBC) •SMs – 60 •CUDA Cores Per SM – 64 •FP32 CUDA Cores (Total) – 3840 (TBC) •FP64 CUDA Cores / SM – TBD •FP64 CUDA Cores / GPU – TBD •Memory Interface – HBM2 or GDDR5X •Memory Size – 16 GB HBM2 / 12 GB GDDR5X •TDP – 250W
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According to a recent leak by ChipHell, the GTX 1080 Ti is powered by GP102, which is basically a bridge between GP100, aka the Big pascal, and GP104. The GP102 silicon measures at the ~470mm² die size, and might have 64 CUDA cores per SM, with a total CUDA core count of 3840.
Further, if the 1080 Ti supports HBM2, we might expect the consumption to fall within the range of 250W power budget. Which means, the GTX 1080 Ti could output 50% more raw performance than the GTX 1080, or roughly equivalent to a GTX 1080 SLI, making it a solid 4K @ 60Hz capable graphics card.
we were expecting the RX 480 to cost somewhere between $249 to $310. An MSRP of $199 therefore, comes as a very very pleasant surprise. It would allow AMD to not only under-cut superior performance claims of the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 in terms of sheer value proposition, but would also likely increase AMD’s market share – reaching a segment of the market that Nvidia did not reach out to.
Without missing a beat with the launch of the latest Broadwell-E processors from Intel, and the highest performing graphics card ever with the NVIDIA GTX 1080, Digital Storm has shoehorned both into their 34-inch all-in-one display.
There were several manufacturers showing off the 34-inch all-in-one gaming system at CES, and the curved display makes for a commanding view. The widescreen display features a 3440x1440 21:9 panel with a slight radius to it. As mentioned, this is a common design from several manufacturers, with Digital Storm being the first to market (or at least the first to my inbox) with the latest and greatest Broadwell-E and GTX 1080 cards.
On the graphics side, you can opt to just use integrated graphics, or anything from a GTX 950 to the GTX 1080
Cooling is always going to be an issue with you pack this much power into a small space, so Aura features liquid cooling for the CPU, and the graphics card blower exhausts hot air out of the display bezel, which should be ideal for expelling the waste heat from the GPU.
It seems like I will most likely getting 1070 OC ver instead of 1080 after reading the review. The dollar per performance of 1070 is much better than 1080. I can use the xtra funds to invest on my 2k monitor or use it in getting my PS4 Neo on Sep
However, most likely I will not be doing SLI for it as I plan to make M-ATX form factor instead of ATX. I'm still struggling whether I should go for either one of these.
Wise decision if you do go for a 1070 OC'd. You will be getting yourself a 980 Ti and Titan X killer at an unbeatable value.
Those who want something priced even lower than the GTX 1070 should keep their eyes on AMD's upcoming RX 480, which should show up with other Polaris 10/11 cards. The RX 480 will start at $199 and is launching on June 29. We don't have benchmarks yet, but all signs point to this being an amazing bang-for-the-buck card.
Haha... I'm still using a trusty old Dell G2410 1920x1080 display. Served me well for years. Been a 1080p gamer since I moved from a GTX 680 to now a GTX 970. As long as can max out settings at 1080p, I'm happy. Transitioning to 4k is costly and more so for someone from an older generation of hardware. We'll see how it goes in the future but 4k is now more reachable than ever before, advancements in single GPU performance is what I'm super interested in
Investing in a GTX 1080/1070 to run 1080p is really a waste. The way forward is 1440p. FYI, you could now get an XB271HU listed at RM3199 with free Predator headset (worth M499).
Wouldn't say it is a waste if know how to utilize the god-like frame-rates attained. I have not seen Gsync or high-refresh rate monitors in the flesh but I assume it is far more superior than measly 60Hz displays. If gaming at 1080p on a GTX 1080, the 'overkill' can be put to good use. GTX 1080 does 1440p damn well too, but not providing the frame-rates like it does in 1080p.
Gigabyte GTX 1070 FE 8GB GDDR5 RM2399.00 - TECHVIEW IT SOLUTION
Nice...
On another note, as mentioned moving from a 980 Ti or even 980 to a 1080 is not really worth it imo. I'd say for those who has been sticking out on their 'old cards', the 1070 - best bang for your buck right now!
If your existing card is still able to get you the results you need, stick with it. Am hopeful prices will settle down when market supply starts to increase.
I'm fine with my current card as I only game at 1080p. Just a 'possibility' only of getting the GTX 1070 as a nice performance boost and perhaps future proofing when I upgrade my display to 1440p/4k. If the card is above RM2k then its an absolute no-go. If below RM2k, then it will be a maybe. Will see if the price settles.