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post Jul 6 2015, 03:10 PM

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I don't think food shooters like you would even feel the lag at all.

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 6 2015, 03:10 PM)
I don't think food shooters like you would even feel the lag at all.
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Yea, thats why i said, i a bit regret buy 6D, should have research a bit more and go for A7ii
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post Jul 6 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(badboyz6 @ Jul 6 2015, 12:17 PM)
Hi, what else then? smile.gif
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Nothing.

Just get what you can afford/need and think of it as sunk cost.
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post Jul 6 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(badboyz6 @ Jul 6 2015, 02:07 PM)
Therefore, knowing what you want to shoot is important.
For instance, it's a tough decision to be made in between 6D and 7D Mk ii, a full frame with lesser AF points against a crop sensor fast shooter with many AF points.

For landscape, nature, and still images, people go for 6D. Whereas, wildlife, people, children and other moving objects, people go for 7D Mk ii.

Am I right?
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http://www.dpreview.com/articles/165208804...eatures-default

And everybody running circles around Canon sensors these days with no sign of letting up. The last time Canon was on top of their game was during 550D time.

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post Jul 7 2015, 01:38 PM

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on bodies like EOS 7D, it's only when paired with L lens (some models) that you get full weather seal.

70-200L lenses are the fastest telephoto zoom with constant aperture that you can get for Canon line-up. You really have no choice, whether APS-C or FF, just that APS-C is less wide and more reach.

That aside, prime lenses - that's entirely up to people but usually those who have L primes would also be on FF body.
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post Jul 7 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(badboyz6 @ Jul 6 2015, 11:43 AM)
2. L lenses are expensive- Yes, to me, they are very expensive. There are a few USM lenses that are specially designed for APS-C sensor bodies that are pretty good and highly recommended. Why would anyone still go for L lenses? To me, I can only think of one reason, photographers who use crop sensor bodies have intention to go full frame in the future. So, they will not have to sell all the pricey APS-C lenses and start all over again to buy full frame lenses.


not really, 17-40L is a lot cheaper than say EF-S 1755, similarly priced with EF-S 15-85.

Just that 17-40L loses out a lot compared to those 2. 17-55 has f2.8 constant while 15-85 covers more range.

QUOTE(badboyz6 @ Jul 6 2015, 11:43 AM)
What do they gain?
1. Extra focal length- I have read some reviews that some travel or poor photographers who demand for lighter camera bags or weak monetary ability, they have tendency to use APS-C bodies to shoot wild life photograph. With the same type of telescope lens to be used on APS-C and full frame bodies, APS-c bodies allow the photographers to zoom further. For instance, 70-200mm lens, on APS-C bodies, the photographers are allowed to zoom up to 320mm (200mm x1.6).


extra focal length if you're looking at telephoto.

they actually lose out focal length when it comes to being wide.
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post Jul 7 2015, 04:36 PM

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Would it not be considered that since FF lens is built for FF sensor, the lens would need to take into account corner to corner sharpness? If you use FF lens on apsc sensor, since the image is cropped, so too does the edge softness being cropped out resulting in very sharp image at the corner. IMO.
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post Jul 7 2015, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Jul 7 2015, 04:36 PM)
Would it not be considered that since FF lens is built for FF sensor, the lens would need to take into account corner to corner sharpness? If you use FF lens on apsc sensor, since the image is cropped, so too does the edge softness being cropped out resulting in very sharp image at the corner. IMO.
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True, but negligible IMO...
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post Jul 8 2015, 11:31 PM

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One thing to note is that Canon's FF lenses are the EF range.

Those "L" models are just part of the EF lens range.
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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Jul 7 2015, 04:36 PM)
Would it not be considered that since FF lens is built for FF sensor, the lens would need to take into account corner to corner sharpness? If you use FF lens on apsc sensor, since the image is cropped, so too does the edge softness being cropped out resulting in very sharp image at the corner. IMO.
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Seriously, if you are on APSC cropped sensor, just get a good APSC lens.

Like 15-85 USM IS. This is very good lens I brought this lens to europe, one lens do all the work.

only down side is floating aperture, f4.0-f5.6, but very nice lens hehe
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I have the Canon 24-105mm f4L and Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 VC. My camera body? Canon 70D. Why did I buy them? Gear Acquisition Syndrome. Yep. tongue.gif
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post Jul 9 2015, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 7 2015, 01:40 PM)
not really, 17-40L is a lot cheaper than say EF-S 1755, similarly priced with EF-S 15-85.

Just that 17-40L loses out a lot compared to those 2. 17-55 has f2.8 constant while 15-85 covers more range.
extra focal length if you're looking at telephoto.

they actually lose out focal length when it comes to being wide.
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How come 17-40mm f4L sell at die cheap price? 1.7k?! Used
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post Jul 9 2015, 01:00 PM

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You probably can get it for RM 1.5k even. smile.gif 17-40 F4L and 70-200 F4L are under RM 2k, comes with lens hood.

Expensive? Think Canon EF-S 15-85 and EF-S 17-55, and even EF-S 10-22. Non L. Non FF lens. RM 2k+++ and still no lens hood, no pouch either.

Still think L lens expensive? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Jul 9 2015, 09:30 AM)
Seriously, if you are on APSC cropped sensor, just get a good APSC lens.

Like 15-85 USM IS. This is very good lens I brought this lens to europe, one lens do all the work.

only down side is floating aperture, f4.0-f5.6, but very nice lens hehe
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I know that. This is in respond to why some people use ff lens on apsc sensor.
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 9 2015, 01:00 PM)
You probably can get it for RM 1.5k even. smile.gif 17-40 F4L and 70-200 F4L are under RM 2k, comes with lens hood.

Expensive? Think Canon EF-S 15-85 and EF-S 17-55, and even EF-S 10-22. Non L. Non FF lens. RM 2k+++ and still no lens hood, no pouch either.

Still think L lens expensive? biggrin.gif
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Yea i saw the used section im shocked.

invessted the 100mm hehehe going to have more food picture!
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Jul 9 2015, 02:08 PM)
I know that. This is in respond to why some people use ff lens on apsc sensor.
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not referring to you la. referring to 1st post.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Jul 7 2015, 04:37 PM)
True, but negligible IMO...
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on most lenses yes, but if you are using lenses like 16-35 f2.8L on a FF wide open the corner performance is pretty much facepalm tongue.gif on apsc it's acceptable though.

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 9 2015, 01:00 PM)
You probably can get it for RM 1.5k even. smile.gif 17-40 F4L and 70-200 F4L are under RM 2k, comes with lens hood.

Expensive? Think Canon EF-S 15-85 and EF-S 17-55, and even EF-S 10-22. Non L. Non FF lens. RM 2k+++ and still no lens hood, no pouch either.

Still think L lens expensive? biggrin.gif
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canon actually has some of the most value for money FF lenses around, from 17-200mm all in F4 for around rm5-6k, it's unbeatable.
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post Jul 9 2015, 09:38 PM

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Yup, fastest way to get pro-grade lens is use 17-40 and 70-200 on APS-C body.

Lens total cost if buy used is under RM 4k.

 

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