when i said join Islam because of me she hesitated.

when she read the first verse of the quran she started to gain interest.

at least she is trying to find out what's out there besides those offered by christianity.

I dont know who is being prejudice here, but Im sure it is not me.

Hi..
I Registered Just To Reply Here....
I Am Not Malaysian, And I Am A Free Thinker... With A Muslim Background...
I Have Been In A Relationship With A Chinese Christian Girl From Here. We Might Break Up Because Of Religion But That Will Be Her Decideion Not Mine Cause I Really Don't Mind Whatever She Is.
For Your Case. I Want To Ask Something.
Why Do You Want Her To Convert In The First Place?
I Am Not Sure About Malaysian Rules But In Islam You Can Get Married To A Christian Without Her Converting.

i like this sentences..


would you?

Why Would Anyone Convert! I Just Don't Get It!

P.S. Edi8888... You're Quite Offencive.

Why do I need to convert if I dun believe in the religion?! Is it because of him? Then I convert?! Like I'm cheating both parties. I cheated him, as I'm loving him. At the same time, being unfair/not respectful to the religion as well!



edited: soli, typo.

This post has been edited by edifgrto: Nov 9 2006, 01:47 PM

First'ly i dun give a nickel care bout whether she leaves christian or not I am not christian, i am was taoist chinese now a free thinker... Don't jump to conclusions did i ever said i was christian ??

If your doing the correct thing why not let her parents to find out !! rather doing everything from behind.

Yes.... ur not telling her to join directly .. but ask yourself why would someone suddenly want to join a religion without even consulting her parents... (note: she is not those rebelion type of girl to the parents from what you state).. Love is blind but powerful ?.If you love her so much would u want her to suffer because of ur own selfishness ??. A girl might be losing her parents relationship at a young age.
Like a saying Everything in this world can change but your parents can change soon you will still need to depend on them.

Since when am i contradicting myself ??

Well maybe to you i'm a retard but i do know my ethics and morality.... at least i not those who wait things to happen rather that those to make it happen and be proud of it happening.

Lastly save ur MLM like speech to someone else....retards like me don't really understand well

This post has been edited by wizard83: Nov 9 2006, 02:08 PM

1. Would a person sacrificing for another person will tell that particular person i am sacrificing myself ????

2. Yea sure she have the ability to read quran w/o anyone teaching ??
<< translated maybe, well i would never know>>. Gaining interest as a good read or curious what they are talking about ???

3.This i have no comments....<< dun want to touch those sensitive part don't want to get my behind hauled to ISA because of this >>

4.Prejudice ??? Nah... its a fact... going in easy , going out hard.... Easy to get annoyed when some talking bout religion via cartoons.... Trying to instill syariah laws at countries not belonging to you..... lets see wat else..... the list is long... but YET its truth..

sorry moderators i might be going overboard.....

Maybe you have something against Islam? It doesnt take a Christian to hate one being converted to Islam.

There is a lot of ex Christians, Taoists, Bhuddistsm etc who converted to Islam and chose to do it quietly. Only after they have a firm believe of their new religion would they announce it to their parents. It is obvious that their parents would object to their decission thus influencing their early decission to seek the truth within theirselves.

Explain why is it my responsibility to report her actions to her parents? you guys keep on telling me that Im doing things behind her parents back but I did nothing. She's doing this out of her own free will, so really, why should I tell her parents about this? And you guys keep on assuming that Im influencing her but only god knows, maybe he really want this to be.

Why suddenly she would have an interest in Islam? Why, "nur" and hidayah of course. Relevation. Probably she's starting to think that Christianity is.... not the right thing for her. Why do you guys have to assume that I'm causing this? Who knows if the real god actually want her to embrace Islam.

Why am I being attacaked for seemingly influencing her choice? You guys dont know her feelings, and hell im not going to stop her from moving towards Islam.

Heh I simply said Im not in one of those group. You couldnt even understand that, it shows you couldnt understand my other points either.


1. I dont know.

2. Even the bible wasnt written in English. So of course she's reading the translated together with the intrepetations

3. ???

4. Well, im not forcing her, she should know if she embraces Islam there's little way out.

No, no, you're fine. Dont worry about it.

This post has been edited by mypetridish: Nov 9 2006, 02:33 PM

another interesting trivia

shah rukh khan is a muslim and his wife is a hindu.

This post has been edited by quintessential: Nov 9 2006, 02:33 PM

if she doesnt convert then fine. she;ll return to christianity and Ill stay with Islam and we'll probably just stay as friends. take note that we arent couples too. she's not doing this because of me, im quite sure of that, and I'm closer to her so I would know better than say... you guys?

Hella no would I convert to any other religion. Not because of love, and not because of anythingelse because i know Islam is the right one. But lets not bring this discussion to a religion discussion.

Sorry my bad ... but however the way you speak is just like thos MLMlers talk always insist that they are not MLM so its easy to misunderstand.... This i'll backdown and appologise....


well one more thing... one i am curious the reason u post this thread ??? is it to show your success in going to make someone convert or asking for advice or etc ???

Anyway its your fren/ gf / or you would like to call it future spouse so all the best...
hopefully her parents dun cut off their ties with her.... Its sad to see a possible family outbreak anyways its not my problem either... All i can say is goodluck to her and hopefully someone she knows might talk some sense to her..

And threadstarter .........Good luck in your so HOLY ways....

If You Are Not Couples, Then What The Hell Are You Talking About?!! Take Note That Couples Doesn't Mean You "Have" To Have Sex, Kiss Or Even Hold Hands As Long As You Love Each Other.
Most People In This Country Don't Understand Religion & Many Hate Islam Cause Of The Government Laws Which In Many Cases Has Nothing To Do With Islam. What Does It Matter If You're A Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, Free Thinker Or Whatever Else As Long As You Treat Yourself & Other People With Respect And Don't Step On Anyone's Freedom? You Say Islam Is Right. That Is An Opinion. All Religions Say Similer Things.

Whoa?....i didnt know! he so handsome and hamsap looking!

Since u two aren't couples, then go and do the needful la. post here for what? Want out advice on how to kau lui or how to convert her?

The irony in this thread is too strong and it blow my balls all over the place.

Threadstarter is confused himself.... Thats why i back down from my reply to his post.... He is asking for advice or bragging around or asking for FLAMES ??

Im just trying to see your reactions. this forum is too opinionated, given the polarized racial and religious composition, to ask for any advice.

so at the end it is still

my god > your god

You have already made up your mind even before starting this thread in the first place. You're starting this thread so that you would feel good if ppl agree with your opinion. More of an ego boost I might say.

Edit : Just want to add. Can you truthfully say that you're interested in her converting to Islam because of the beauty of the religion, or because you want something in it as well?

At some parts of your posts you said that you want her to see for herself what Islam has to offer, not against her free will. Then you said you might marry her if she did become a muslim. Then you said why should you tell her parents if she's already interested in your religion.

Conflicting needs, eh? Sounds to me like in the end, its actually what you want out of it. If you have no interest in marrying her, and want her to know about Islam more, then that's probably something normal (Christians do that quite often to me too), the true purpose of you wanting to tell her about your religion. But so far from your posts, it doesnt seem like that.

Seriously speaking, most of the time people would get up and do something because there's something in it for them.


This post has been edited by winkybear: Nov 9 2006, 05:30 PM

Obviously she isn't much of a Christian if she could get so interested in the Quran after reading a few lines and deciding to leave her faith and join yours. There is nothing wrong with religions, it's just that people think too much about it.

"My beliefs are right, yours is most definitely wrong"

It's basically a bunch of hogwash. My gf's buddhist. My dad's buddhist. My mother's Christian and so am I. What's the big deal? As long as you lead a good life and you don't do anything wrong.

You claim that the Christian GOD and your GOD is the same. So why does she need to convert then? You obviously have your own MO in this.

Indeed, you will be the cause between the riff of that girl and her parents, and possible the others in her life (since she's such a great Christian)

I suggest you walk away.

*Who put the idea of Islam into her head anyway?*

Think about it. It's easy to say "oh, if it doesn't work out she can go back to being a Christian" and we'll remain close friends. That's ridiculous. Things like these change a person.



This post has been edited by refnulf: Nov 9 2006, 05:28 PM

You're the man. You convey things much better than me.