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post Nov 14 2006, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(darun @ Nov 14 2006, 01:16 PM)
Another thing I'd like to add, teach them to question what they read/hear/told.
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Darun,

It is hard in Asian culture since you are NOT allow to question the authority/parent/elders and so on..

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post Nov 14 2006, 10:13 PM

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sound like what the gov should do to the people ~ lol ~
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post Nov 14 2006, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(vex @ Nov 14 2006, 10:13 PM)
sound like what the gov should do to the people ~ lol ~
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It is NOT in the best interest of any government for its people to be smart and capable of critical thinking.

Democracy started in Viking culture where the chief is elected because everyone can fight and the need to convince people to follow you. Ditto for trial by juries.

True democracy started in Britain when most commoners can carry a bow and shoot arrows. When that happened, a group of commoners can bring down any knight.

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post Nov 15 2006, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 14 2006, 10:10 PM)
Darun,

It is hard in Asian culture since you are NOT allow to question the authority/parent/elders and so on..

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That brings to mind the extreme looks of shock when I described some of the stunts that I used to pull in University to those who graduated from local colleges smile.gif
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i've very bad feeling about being frugal because my friends taunt me "hey stingy *******" or "cheapskate". i dun spend my money on hi tech gadgets, birthday gathering at secret recipie and clubbing, but i spend money on pursuing my interest such as learning spanish. i dont think my frugalness has not reach the level of "kiamsiapness".

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The good and legal way to get rich is, get a rich husband/wife. Invest on your partners.tongue.gif
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post Nov 15 2006, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(quintessential @ Nov 15 2006, 02:28 AM)
i've very bad feeling about being frugal because my friends taunt me "hey stingy *******" or "cheapskate". i dun spend my money on hi tech gadgets, birthday gathering at secret recipie and clubbing, but i spend money on pursuing my interest such as learning spanish. i dont think my frugalness has not reach the level of "kiamsiapness".
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It is very simple. Average people are NOT rich. Rich people are NOT average.

If you live like normal people, you will never be rich. If you cannot put up with peer pressure, you will never be rich.

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post Nov 15 2006, 04:00 AM

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QUOTE(darun @ Nov 14 2006, 12:39 PM)
That is so true.  Parents here nowadays dont focus enough on ethics and morals as well.
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Darun,

I would not put the blame totally with the parent. It is hard to raise children with morality and ethical fashion when you are living in an immoral and unethical society. The world is telling our children that it is okay to be corrupt, lie, cheat and so on. And, many of them are our leaders.

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post Nov 15 2006, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 15 2006, 04:00 AM)
Darun,

I would not put the blame totally with the parent.  It is hard to raise children with morality and ethical fashion when you are living in an immoral and unethical society.    The world is telling our children that it is okay to be corrupt, lie, cheat and so on.  And, many of them are our leaders.

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Well the problem, as I see it right now, a lot of parent are setting a very bad example for their children. As an example, jumping queue, parking in the middle of the road (yes this happens very frequently in Bandar Utama where I'm staying, you see parents parking in the middle of the road during end of school day even though there is a big free MPPJ parking lot right next to the school because they dont want walk a few steps, the school in question is puay chai, if anyone stay nearby, go take a look at 6.30pm everyday), swearing at people, etc. A lot of these are basic ethics and morals, I've no doubt all these parents teach their children morals, but it is useless if they themselves turn around and do all these inconsiderate actions right in front of their children. All they are giving them is lip service and showing them how to be selfish. Also note, all these parent are most likely well educated, successful middle class people considering a lot of them drives cars better than proton make. So yes, based on my own experience often times its the parents to blame, because they themselves are not setting a good example for their kids. No doubt the society contributes a big part as well, but it is quite hopeless for a kid if their own parents are inconsiderate hypocrits.
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QUOTE(darun @ Nov 15 2006, 08:13 AM)
Well the problem, as I see it right now, a lot of parent are setting a very bad example for their children.  As an example, jumping queue, parking in the middle of the road (yes this happens very frequently in Bandar Utama where I'm staying, you see parents parking in the middle of the road during end of school day even though there is a big free MPPJ parking lot right next to the school because they dont want walk a few steps, the school in question is puay chai, if anyone stay nearby, go take a look at 6.30pm everyday), swearing at people, etc.  A lot of these are basic ethics and morals,  I've no doubt all these parents teach their children morals, but it is useless if they themselves turn around and do all these inconsiderate actions right in front of their children.  All they are giving them is lip service and showing them how to be selfish.  Also note, all these parent are most likely well educated, successful middle class people considering a lot of them drives cars better than proton make.  So yes, based on my own experience often times its the parents to blame, because they themselves are not setting a good example for their kids.  No doubt the society contributes a big part as well, but it is quite hopeless for a kid if their own parents are inconsiderate hypocrits.
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Darun,

So what?? I really do not care how others raise their children. That is their responsibilities. I really do not know how my children will turn out. Knock on wood. Hopefully, they will work out fine and not being a burden to anyone. But, I can never be sure. They are so young.

Be constructive in life. Do what you can. Do the right thing and encourage others to do the right thing. But, if people do not follow your advice, do not be so hard on them too. They are living in an environment that encourages that kind of behavior. Most people do the popular thing instead of the right thing. That is normal and how human behave anyhow.

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post Nov 15 2006, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 7 2006, 11:29 AM)
How do you know?? I know a family that the father never earn more than 2K per month.  They owned 2 houses and send 2 of their children to USA for college education.  They are richer than most people.  But, they never own a car.

Read "The Millionaire Next Door".  The research on the millionaires in USA.  Most of the millionaires in USA do not earn a lot of money.

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thats tottally bullshiieeeeeetttttt!!! mind to tell the great father name. ahahah. btw it suit ur nick Dreaaaamer. Wake up dudee rclxub.gif

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post Nov 15 2006, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Nov 15 2006, 08:48 AM)
thats tottally bullshiieeeeeetttttt!!! mind to tell the great father name. ahahah. btw it suit ur nick Dreaaaamer. Wake up dudee rclxub.gif
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Why so angry?? Why should I try to convince you?? I make more money if people do not believe me. People takes 9 years car loan. People buying more house than they can afford. People overspent. They end up working for the bank for the most of their life and pay interest to the bank. Meanwhile, I collect good dividend from the bank every year.

I cannot help it if people want to be stupid. At least, I get to laugh my way to the bank.

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post Nov 16 2006, 11:05 AM

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Yes, that's the real world. you need money to make more money. however, if you're smart, then you will find some solution for this. earn big money with little or no model... example??? find yourself. haha.

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