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 Les paul tune-o-matic bridge tailpiece sucks.

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SUSRiddleMeThat
post Jul 3 2015, 11:10 AM, updated 11y ago

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Anyone with epiphone or clones or gibsons ever experienced this thing? I've had to glue mine in with titebond and it helped a lot but still can see a bit of lean, due to the type of wood used for the body i think. Asian 'mahogany' tend to be softer than the real deal...


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post Jul 3 2015, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Jul 3 2015, 11:28 AM)
That looks bad, seem to pop out at any moment.

Do you use extra heavy strings?
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It's not my guitar, but i have the same problem with a recently acquired Rally Gl-400, but it was not THAt bad in the picture, maybe 30 to 40 percent only, which i reduced down to 5-10 percent after gluing in with titebond.

My samick AV3 has no such problem even strung with 10s.

The recent acquistion is on 9s and I intend to change to 10s after some time. If still lean, I will remove the studs and put in 30 minutes epoxy instead and let it sit for some time before pushing the bushing in again.


Apparently I read it happens to epiphones too, and very old gibsons.

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SUSRiddleMeThat
post Jul 3 2015, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 3 2015, 12:16 PM)
how does that mean the tune-o-matic bridge sucks?
more like the cheap china guitars suck.
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I've searched for such problems in other forums, and many confirms it happened in epiphones and even gibsons.

This is a design flaw of such a bridge, since it does not take into consideration that wood can move and string tension will compress the headstock facing side of the bushing hole, causing the hole to get large over time.

Eventually it will happen even to gibsons, just depends on how long and how you prevent humidity changes that allow this.

The usual fix is to make a dowel and glue it in, then redrill, but keep it long enough, you'll have to do it again, maybe 10 years down the road.

Maybe in the cheaper epiphones and other mic/mik/mii clones 5 years on it will show up.
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post Jul 3 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Jul 3 2015, 05:39 PM)
yeah.. i just wanted some surf warble effect.

The Schaller one looks nice but will require the change of studs..

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Pretty interested in the Les Trem, seemed easiest to install and isn't that bulky.
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Bowen handle, cheaper.

http://www.freedomguitar.com/products_bowen_handle.php
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post Jul 4 2015, 12:28 AM

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Another stupid Gibson bug that will never be fixed because traditionalist balk at it. All they needed to do is move the 2 middle string's tuners closer to each other but noooooo you must not change tradition...




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