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post Jul 1 2015, 07:07 PM

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Very much depends on what u need, want and looking for...250 is more of a daily ride, better looking and safer to ride compared to kapchai ....if u looking for looong distance ...look for 500cc and above....bare in mind the bigger the bike the heavier it is...and they r exact opposite...big bikes are bad daily....so u plan to ride it often and in city 250, u use it as weekend and long distance 500 above
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post Jul 2 2015, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Jul 1 2015, 08:28 PM)
Why dowan 2013 z800???
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Have u ever tried riding z800 as a daily? Try it 1st then tell me if its suitable
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post Jul 2 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 2 2015, 10:33 AM)
i ride 650cc er6n everyday to work for 2 yrs last time

heavy city traffic no prob cos it's a nekid bike  laugh.gif
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Er6n yes as its naked.....z800, many frens used it after awhile put aside due to the hassle...heavy and over powered for daily...well....I guess it depends...didn't say u cant use it daily...I just said it's a pain compared to 250, now think back, I was mainly advising based on full fairing....hmmmm...

Now that we come to this...TS looking at naked or full fairing? As this 2 r different breed of bikes altogether
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post Jul 2 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Jul 2 2015, 10:40 AM)
I have not.. Is it uncomfortable?
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Really depends on a lot of things....e.g, the road u using paths.. Time...nature of work..bla bla bla

Comfort is subjective....but 1 thing for sure its a really torqy n heavy bike...so if u stuck in jam a lot...it may b a pain
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post Jul 2 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 2 2015, 11:27 AM)
z800 is also naked. have u ridden on it?

yup, it's heavier, but only 15kg heavier than the nimble er6n

many of your friends might be those newbie who got attracted to z800 just because of the inline 4 sound, deswai la z800 2nd hand market is flooded now

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Exactly, and TS is also a beginner, u think he can handle z800 as daily? Also look back he is mainly looking at full fairing, and for full fairing sports...250 is for daily, cbr500 is also OK as its not super sports....anything else to me is a big no no for daily...but that's just my honest opinion
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post Jul 2 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 2 2015, 11:43 AM)
better for him to get 500cc

if TS wanted 250cc, go for a used one  smile.gif
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QUOTE(technod @ Jul 2 2015, 11:47 AM)
The bigger cc got higher maintenance and insurance cost.

Back then, my friend suggest me bigger cc than 250cc bike. i really appreciate the advice. sometimes i ride to work and rarely go on weekend ride. the brotherhood in bikers sometimes impressed me. we wave, horn whenever we are come across. even when u meet, u greet each other. that's what atleast for me, will u be expecting when u come with big bike.
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As mentioned cbr500 is the most I will suggest..anything else is a very bad beginner bike, pls bare in mind...ts is asking for daily + beginner......I'm assumming he don't even ride a bike now? So if he gets a 1st bad experience or find it a hassle to ride....he won't be a biker for long.....

Now u said u get bigger cc, but Sometimes ride to work and rarely weekend ride...means u hardly use it...so is it a daily? Can u use it as a daily?
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post Jul 3 2015, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jul 3 2015, 07:56 AM)
xj6...cant go wrong with yamaha durability..2nd hand also not so expensive now
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Except theblooks of xj, its a cross country bike....to me itsvlike an oversized scrambler....hehe
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post Jul 9 2015, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jul 9 2015, 10:01 AM)
terencewtcCBR500R is 470cc at 28k. MT-07 is 689cc for ~RM35k (CKD).
Power: 43Nm vs 68Nm
Torque at 3000 RPM: 25Nm (58%) vs 40Nm (59%)
Torque at 4000 RPM: 27Nm (63%) vs 44Nm (65%)
Weight: 192 kg vs 172 kg (Both are kerb/wet weight, comparison is equal)
- MT07 is much more responsive in city ride.
- Highway cruising for MT07 will be more efficient between 4-5k RPM (95~120kmh) since there is a tuned peak around that rev range. For CBR, it would have to be at 5-6k RPM to reach that speed.
*RPM and speed calculation based on engine gear ratio and rear wheel size.

Maintenance:
Tyre size, front/rear are 120/160 vs 120/180, respectively. Rear tyre on MT07 will be significantly high.
Chain type: Presume both uses 520/525 chains... replacement about equal.
... and so on.

For the amount that you are going to pay maintaining these bikes, my personal opinion is to buy the more expensive one.

If you can afford it, the 3-cylinder MT-09 is even more interesting, at RM54k CKD.
In this case, the full-fairing bike only looks nice, but ride quality is uninteresting. Aka, boring bikes...
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So..that's like paying rm280/ extra HP....can elaborate what u mean by boring bike? Thanks

 

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