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post Dec 8 2006, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(alvinsim_cy @ Dec 8 2006, 08:05 PM)
my favs has to b carl orff-o fortuna...and 1 more i don't know the title...but then i remember in one episode of tom and jerry, it was played...i fink it's a bach song o sth liddat...
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is it Toccata & Fugue in D minor??
the song that bring the feeling of fear... (personally tot)
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QUOTE(chernloon @ Dec 11 2006, 10:35 AM)
I prefer Pathetique Sonata and The Tempest - Allegretto.
din play them for some time since no piano over here sad.gif
added : tan_pang, i have the Jupiter by karl bohm and BPO smile.gif
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ya, Pathetique is better than Fur Elise

but in Pathetique Sonata, i think 2nd mvt is the best (but shit for 1st mvt)
almost listen to it everyday thumbup.gif

The Tempest??
dunno about it... tongue.gif
also from Beethoven??

btw, i think i aledi have the Jupiter that compose by Mozart
the Jupiter that you said is from Mozart or Halst??

and i have checked Mahler Symohony No.8 at Tower Record in KLCC
the price is almost RM120!!!
didnt have money to buy... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Dec 11 2006, 06:50 PM)
Yeah I absolutely adore Moonlight Sonata. There was one time I played Moonlight Sonata and nothing else for about 2 months or so. The music is quite haunting sometimes.  laugh.gif

Pachelbel's Canon... it's nice but isn't really my favourite. Lol.

Besides, I love most of Chopin's music. My favourite would be Fantasie Impromptu, I still can't play it till today. That's probably because I haven't touched my piano for more than 2 years already, how sad  sad.gif  My piano isn't with me  cry.gif

Basically I love Chopin's Nocturnes more than any of his other works. However his piano Sonatas are nice to play too.

Recommended Nocturnes from Chopin:
1. Nocturne No.20 in C Sharp Minor -- Played in The Pianist at the very start of the movie.
2. Nocturne In B flat minor Op.9 No.1 -- Larghetto -- Has a melancholy feel to it.

I have the mp3 file and piano scores in digital format for the above pieces. PM me if you want it. I'll try to send them to you  smile.gif
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woh~
thx for your recommendation
the Nocturne No.20 is not bad
i really hope someone can recommend me his nocturne becoz nocturne usually played in evening party
and i hope can know every song that played in party tongue.gif
and thx for the Nocturne No.20
but the Nocturne Op.9...
maybe juz first time listen to it, not impress me well...
QUOTE(chernloon @ Dec 11 2006, 07:36 PM)
jupiter by mozart smile.gif

pathetique sonata 2nd movement, first listened it when i was small, in Snoopy, where a kid in the cartoon series idolize beethoven very much and he played it, never know its pathetique sonata till i first get my hand on that piece.

The Tempest is from beethoven as well.

long time i din play fantasie impromptu either, only touch the piano once in a while when i back to hometown. i like liszt's sonetto del petrarca as well smile.gif
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Mozart's Jupiter...
which movement is good??
you have the all mvt of the Jupiter??
and i cant found the Tempest in classiccat.net
maybe need to pm you later... tongue.gif

i see many people in here also love Chopin Fantasie Impromptu (i damn love this piano music thumbup.gif )
but that is the work that Chopin dislike and it only published after his death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasie_impromptu
QUOTE(Extract from wikipedia)
A possible reason for this was that it was written when he was still quite young (it is the first of the impromptus written) and he either thought himself immature, or that the piece lacked substance. Others speculate that Chopin may have felt the piece was too similar to another piece that Felix Mendelssohn had recently published. However, a more likely reason was that there is a passage in the piece (measure 7/8) which is exactly the same (note-wise, at least) as a passage in the third movement of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, Op. 27 No. 2 (a mini-cadenza prior to the coda, measure 187). Chopin had enormous amounts of respect for Beethoven towards the end of his life, and had instructed his student and secretary, Julian Fontana, to destroy the piece.

luckily we still can listen to this music
what a waste...

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QUOTE(chernloon @ Dec 11 2006, 08:35 PM)
i m not impressed by jupiter...erm...can b said tat, i m not really impressed by symphonies...but i hav all mozart's compositions smile.gif

i prefer sonata and concerto, especially bach and vivaldi violin concerto, and...no 2 b forgotten, beethoven's Violin Concerto In D Major Op.61  drool.gif

almost everyday i listen to hilary hahn playin bach violin concerto. prefer her version rather than zukerman or szeryng 1.
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if im not mistaken
the Jupiter i had is only 1st mvt
and i love sypmhony
especially the Beethoven Symphony
i listen Symphony No.5, No.7, and No.9 of his symphony
(No.7 listen to all mvt, but No.5 and No.9 juz 1st mvt.
and you are not look at the wrong mvt
coz i juz like 1st mvt of No.9 which is stormy. not the choral which is the last mvt that is most famous around the world)

but overall, the symphony that i love most is Dvorak "From the new world" Symphony
which is stormy, note will ascent suddenly that give surprise
and the best symphony that i heard ever!!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
btw, im talking the 1st mvt only
other mvt is not very good

the Violin Concerto in D major
i also have that concerto and also like it
if talk about Violin Concerto
i prefer Vivaldi "Spring"

but if talk about Concerto, i prefer piano concerto
like "Emperor" by Beethoven (Piano Concerto No.5 in E flat)
and also the Piano Concerto No.2 by Sergei Rachmaninov
but i hear that Piano Concerto No.3 by Sergei Rachmaniov is the best!!!
will try it if have the chance...

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Dec 11 2006, 10:57 PM)
I have a compilation of piano scores of Chopin's Nocturnes. Too bad it's under the bench of my piano, and it's not with me now... 2 years... I haven't seen my piano for 2 years...

This 2 are the other 2 Nocturnes I have
1. Chopin-- Nocturne In E flat major Op.9 No.2 -- Andante
2. Chopin-- Nocturne In F sharp major Op.15 No.2 -- Larghetto
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Nocturne Opus.9, 2 and Nocturne Op.15, 2...
hmm... will try if can

btw, i have tried Nocturne Opus.32 by Chopin, it is good!!! thumbup.gif

and also found another piano concerto that is good
which is Piano Concerto No.1 by Johannes Brahms
but the 1st mvt is time consuming
the beginning is stormy, quite good at there.
but becoz of very long time to perform (around 20 minute for the 1st mvt), it will make you feel bore later on...

and for the Johannes Brahms work
try his Symphony No.1 which is also stormy (but dun try the Columbia University Orchestra record, becoz their record cant hear the Timpani sound which coz the stormy feeling)
and also the Hungarian Dances - No. 5 in G minor (Allegro) (used in o2jam as the title "Brahms")

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Dec 12 2006, 04:42 PM)
I can't find Nocturne Op.32 in classicat.net  sad.gif
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http://www.classiccat.net/chopin_f/32.htm


btw, got any other symphony or opera to recommend??
or any other instrument concerto??

like Oboe Concerto by Mozart K314

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post Dec 13 2006, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Dec 13 2006, 12:03 AM)
Here's another of my favourite piece of Chopin's work

Grande Polonaise Brillante In E flat major With Preceding Andante Spianato In G major Op.22 -- Polonaise. Allegro Molto

If you've seen The Pianist, you'll know that it was played at the end of the movie.

*Edit: Do you know where to get the piano score for Nocturne Op.32 No.2?
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you want his Nocturne Op.32 score for what??
to play??
if really like that, here is the link biggrin.gif

after played it, record
and then let us listen to it

EDIT: dunno inside is 1st mvt or 2nd mvt...

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Dec 13 2006, 03:38 PM)
Yeah.. to play. When? I don't know. Probably in the next 3 years.

*Edit: By the way.... the website you showed me - http://www.imslp.org - looks astonishingly like wikipedia. Is it under the management of wikipedia?
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soli, dunno about that website...
but i can found many score at there...

btw, is there any recommendation for Bach music that use the instrument like Toccata & Fugue in D minor??
i addicted to that instrument lately after G minor Fugue by Bach
that music is full with religion feeling...

and if ok, pls tell me what is the name of the instrument...
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Dec 18 2006, 08:03 PM)
Another hilary hahn fan here! I like her style thumbup.gif
Where can I find her album Hilary Hahn Plays Bach in local stores? Tower Records KLCC dont have it  sweat.gif

My journey into classical began with Mozart. I like his symphonies and the Requiem, but regretted my purchase of the Violin Concertos (was unimpressed).

Next i'll be checking out more of Chopin and Rachmaninov.
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the music that play by Hilary Hahn is copyrighted and must pay to listen... cry.gif

Mozart music??
got what recommendation?? coz i not very well know for Mozart music...

if the Tower Records in KLCC also cant find it...
i wonder where can find again... maybe Times Square??
i hear someone tell me that Times Square got a place that sell these classical
and even can try to listen

Chopin music... Fantasie Impromptu!!! thumbup.gif
i think it is best of him
but you still can try his Nocturne that we discuss before

Sergei Rachmaniov Piano Concerto is BEST!!!
i listen to his 3 Piano Concerto
like Piano Concerto No.2 most
follow up by Piano Concerto No.1
and then Piano Concerto No.3

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post Dec 24 2006, 01:35 PM

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who listen to Shostakovich music??
i found his Symphony No.5 is very good
but the version i get is maybe 4th mvt, and the time used is only 3 minute plus it seen like been mod...

is it really juz 3 minute??
and anyone of you got the ori version??
of coz, hope that is out of copyright version
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QUOTE(OrCaGaL @ Dec 24 2006, 10:11 PM)
Josh Groban classical ka??
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not that kind of music la

what we discuss about is like Bach, Vivaldi, Handel, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Mahler, Brahms or even John William....... almost that kind of music la
this include Symphony, Concerto, Opera, Sonata, Quartet or other

but not classical song that sing by Josh Groban laugh.gif
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QUOTE(CrazySinner @ Jan 1 2007, 04:47 PM)
my previous favourite is bach's toccata and fugue in d minor smile.gif
and current favourite is the butterfly lovers concerto. rclxms.gif
but can't find the one played by the "er hu" cry.gif
only manage to find the one by Vanessa Mae (violin version) wub.gif

edt:typo
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Bach's music...
not very well know for this Baroque era master work
"Butterfly Lover Concerto" is violin concerto??

btw, i prefer Bach "Air" in "Orchestral Suite No.3"
it is really the best music by Bach
also a soft music
and can compete with Canon in D thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(CrazySinner @ Jan 1 2007, 11:44 PM)
Yup, it's called "Butterfly Lovers Violin Concerto" by vanessa mae
BTW, do you still want those songs on your list? Cause i got Swan Lake by Tchaikovsky?
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want!! want!! drool.gif

can pm me the msn??
or add me in msn that write in my profile...
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QUOTE(aLthaLus @ Jan 7 2007, 02:19 AM)
great thread thumbup.gif

classical lover all my life....cant list evrythng i listened coz thers too many (almost 5 gigs in my drive tongue.gif)

my current favourite is Henryk Gorecki's Symphony No 3...makes me wanna cry wen i listen to dis biggrin.gif
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i got around 3-4 gig tongue.gif
some is same music but different people perform
saved to hdd to compare the different of both record

and the Henryk Mikolaj Górecki's Symphony No. 3...
cant find in http://www.classiccat.net/ cry.gif
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 7 2007, 10:46 PM)
Currently listening to
Alban Berg Chamber Concerto
Bartok String Quartets
Schoenberg Pierrot Lunaire, Phantasy op. 47
Mahler 8th, 9th
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Mahler Symphony No.8?? shocking.gif
The "Symphony of A Thousand"?? shocking.gif
QUOTE(TheVoice @ Jan 7 2007, 10:53 PM)
I'm looking for a ultimate classical album.....the record could be relaxing and joyous...the music instrument in the album can be like violins, piano and orchestra is good too
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i think you better download (if you using broadband)
coz those free recording also have quality too!!
for relaxing
1.) Pachelbel's Canon in D
2.) Bach's Air (in Orchestral Suite No. 3)
3.) Puccini's "O mio babbino Caro" (forgot from which Opera)
for joy, i sure will recommend Beethoven's Symphony No.9 4th mvt
since that it include "Ode to Joy" inside
and i really feel the "joy" in this symphony!! rclxm9.gif
QUOTE(aLthaLus @ Jan 8 2007, 11:20 AM)
ive downloaded from torrent site last year - flac version (juz coldnt find it in the market)...luckily got it before tmnut throttle my connection sad.gif
i really recommend them to u

if u like mahler's 5th symphony..then u sure gonna like it biggrin.gif
try getting this album "Meisterwerke Der Klassischen Musik", 16 cds in 2.3gig package..
have almost the prominent composers..i got it thru torrent too, coz coldnt find it in the local market...good classical recordings are just ridicously expensive here  shakehead.gif
edited: here is a wonderful list of displaying the author's compilation of the saddest classical numbers saddest classical
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from torrent arr...
then didnt need liao lor~
coz now cant torrent... sad.gif
and thx for the link
QUOTE(bsl555 @ Jan 8 2007, 11:32 AM)
Expensive is one stinking issue and applies to majority of desirable albums whom the local distributors insist on NOT reducing prices in their best interests (not the consumer), and local shops have hardly any interest in stocking up. There was a lot to choose from in the 80's till early 90's..after that, its depressing. Best bet is still buying from internet stores..hardly choice isn't it..or across the Causeway if there's opportunity.
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i found many choice in KLCC's Tower Record
but expensive...
QUOTE(budakjahat @ Jan 8 2007, 03:32 PM)
hello.. nice thread..
i went to the matinee at MPO last sunday..
excellent stuff..!!~
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QUOTE(Greasy Sweet @ Jan 8 2007, 07:43 PM)
Whoa thank god I found this thread
Another Classical listener here just started about last year when I got sick of all that noisy rock crap !  rclxms.gif

I've got 10.6GB of classical music and quickly growing too  tongue.gif
Mostly Wolfie's pieces lol

Currently Listening to Piano Concertos and Sonatas by Mozart I really like these:
Sonata in C KV545 Andante
Sonata in C KV545 Allegro
Sonata in A KV331 Andante
Sonata in C KV309-284b Rondeau
Sonata in F KV332-300k - Adagio
Concerto No 22 in Eb KV482 - Allegro
Concerto No 20 in D min KV466 - Romance
Concerto No 15 in B  KV450 - Allegro
Concerto No 21 in C KV467 - Andante

I also Like these Pieces and highly recommend them :
Kyrie For Mass in C minor
Overture to Don Giovanni
Flute Concerto No.2 in D Andante
Concerto for clarinet and orchestra in A (K.622)
Adagio in C for Glass Harmonica
Aria - Non piu andrai From Le nozze Di Figaro
Cavatina - Porgi amor qualche ristoro From Le Nozze Di Figaro
Duettino - Che soave zefiretto From Le Nozze Di Figaro
Finale - Don Giovanni a cenar teco m'invitasti! From Don Giovanni
Symphony No 26 (Overture) in E-flat, KV 184-161a
Eine kleine Nachtmusik Rondo (Allegro)
Finale - Papagena Papagena Papagena From The Magic Flute
Andante from Concerto for Flute & Harp

Those are at the top of my head right now Maybe I'll post my favs from the other composers later  thumbup.gif
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wah~
all from the Wolfie?? shocking.gif
btw, is there a music like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" in the list?? laugh.gif
QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 8 2007, 07:54 PM)
Ayam a Chopin whore, love the Noctures and the hammeringly patriotic polonaises to bits, especially Maurizio Pollinis interpretation, although i'm still hunting down Rubinstein's interpretation.

I'm currently listening to Heifetz and Richter, Heifetz playing Grieg and Brahms and Richter playing Sergei. My fall back would be Tchaikovski's Violin Concerto played by David Oistrakh from time to time. Awesome stuff all the same.
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playing Brahms and Sergei??
the Sergei is Sergei Rachmaninoff??
tell me how is the Piano Concerto No.2 and Piano Concerto No.3 that compose by Rachmaninoff and played by Richter...
and the Brahms... is it Paganini Variation??
QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jan 10 2007, 02:34 AM)
Actually musicians only about 100+ only. The remaining 600+ players in a typical performance where there's 800 ppl are all singers. Male, female, boys. Sounds like opera biggrin.gif
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i tot there is 600+ person
200+ playing instrument and 400+ is choral...

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 10 2007, 02:42 PM)
Sergei Prokofiev more like it laugh.gif (actually it's Sergey, but they kind of sound the same anyways)

I thought Paganini variations only existed for the piano. I guess the concerto is played in A minor, with Jascha lending it his speed and accuracy of Violin like no other, his technique is perfect and mellow when it need be.

The only thing i fear from musicians, especially the younger ones who try to emulate the expressions and deep emotional musings of their older compatriates is being to schmaltzy where the just push the emotion part too far and end up looking stupid.
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Paganini Variation is from Caprice No. 24 that compose by Paganini
it is believe to be the most difficult violin work ever

Concerto played in A minor??
what concerto?? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Greasy Sweet @ Jan 10 2007, 05:34 PM)
Not in that list but its called "Ah, vous dirai-je, Maman"
Wolfie did 12 Variations of the piece, I've got it in my HDD , 12mins long very nice variations ! rclxms.gif
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i got that recording
the recording i got is around 15 minute
but not very like it... tongue.gif

prefer Brahms's Paganini Variation thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
btw, is there any Mozart recommendation again??

oh ya, the Overture of Le Nozze Di Figaro is good too!!
Piano Sonata in 2 Piano and German Dance K605!! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Greasy Sweet @ Jan 10 2007, 06:04 PM)
Sure I got a few more recommendations:
Symphonie Concertante, K. 364; 1st Movement
A Musical Joke K522 - Presto
Serenade in Bb K361-370a [Gran Partita] - Molto allegro
Symphony No 1 in Eb KV16 - Allegro molto
Horn Concerto in E Flat- K495 - Allegro Vivace
Clarinet Quintet in A, (II. Larghetto)
Requiem in D Minor "Tuba Mirum"
Requiem in D Minor "Kyrie Elison"
Eine kleine Nachtmusik - Romance
Andante for Flute & Orchestra in C Major KV315
Flute concerto no. 1 in g major, k.313 - rondo
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thx for your recommendation
i have take 2 of your recommendation post to 1st post notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

btw, about the Requiem
i prefer Introit... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Greasy Sweet @ Jan 10 2007, 07:01 PM)
me too the entrance is Very epic !
anyway onto other composers

Sergei Rachmaninov
Piano Concerto no.2 - Adagio Sostenuto
Piano Concerto no.2 - Allegro Scerzando
Piano Concerto no.3 - Allegro ma non tanto
Piano Concerto no.3  - Finale Alla breve
Prelude in G Minor,Op.23,No.5

Frederic Francois Chopin
Etude In C Minor
Nocturne in E flat
Nocturne Op.9-2
Mazurka In B Flat
Etude In A Flat
Piano concerto no.1 - 1st Movement
Fantaisie Impromptu

Georges Bizet
Aragonaise from Carmen suite 1
Seguidila from Carmen suite 1
Les Toreadors from Carmen suite 1
Habanera
Song of the Toreador from Carmen suite 2

Gioacchino Antonio Rossini
Overture to The Barber of Seville
Largo al factotum from The Barber of Seville
Overture to The Thieving Magpie
Overture to William Tell (whole thing not finale)
La Danza

Giuseppe Fortunino Francesco Verdi
Anvil Chorus
E il sol dell'anima (you'll know this if you play CS lol)
La Traviata chorus

Johann Strauss I
Radetzky March

Johann Strauss II
Wiener Blut
An der schönen blauen Donau
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woh~
you make me want to have your msn aledi laugh.gif

btw, the Sergei Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No.2, i like the 1st mvt (Moderato) and 3rd mvt
Piano Concerto No.3 juz listen to 1 times only, cant give more comment

Verdi's music...
do you got his Requiem??
and about the CS song... dunno what song is that
but i juz know his "La donna e mobile" is a good and popular opera!! thumbup.gif

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