If you're keen with Note series, Note 4 is currently already a great buy. More wait will only result price reduction (if the are), and more people will sell their Note 4 rush for Note 5. But still a great buy.

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"Another thing if you don't use s pen there many other great alternative in market beside Samsung?"
I don't use S pen,  I try to look out for Other alternative but they may not hv such capable camera, screen, hv replacement bat and micro SD slot. And the worse thing is alternative may not hold its value as good as Note 4 when u want resell.

Note 5 launching price more than rm3k. may not hv micro sd.
So i guess it will tk several months for N4 to drop to 1.5k.

you should check out some of the "flagships" from the big guys... quite a few all more than rm3k (for high end specs)...

Not until u personally own and use them both.

I came from a 3, and i regret buying the 4 initially. If u ask me now, id tell u the 4 is wayyyyyyy better and it was worth the upgrade

Display, battery, camera, feel of the phone, fast charging..

If thats not enough, i dunno what u r looking for.

If u see it as u mentioned, n5 also looks the same. And the top up will definitely be more than 1k.

I think it will be around 3.2k - 3.3k

It cant and wont be cheaper than s6edge.

The official price for note 4 is still 2399.. Where you guys found so cheap?  Ap?

So what difference is there buying from 3rd party? I actually got some bad experience with those smaller shops and also my friend when buying other gadgets.

interesting... soya cincau mentioned of SIRIM certification for Note 5. dual SIM version. now just hoping that the rumours about dual sim tray supporting microSD. now... then maybe i hope my note 2 can last another 1.5years. then grab note 5 instead... hahaha...

but dem... wish battery was removable though...

I never care that, removable battery to me is not important. Already 10 years + I use mobile phone and I never own second battery and never change or swipe battery.

It is real not important to me. Haha!

But I am on hold Note 5 also due to extreme no value on my previous S6 Edge.

My coming phone will be LG G4.

I do agree that removable battery isn't that important.Not as important as a micro sd card slot however you can't really say that it's useless besides using it as spare battery. Battery degrades after a period of time/hundreds cycles of charging when that happens,you can just swap a new battery instead of sending to service which cost a lot more.And sometimes it just die on you at random times. But ofc,if you change phone like once a year then this shouldnt be concerned of lol.

seems like still at 5.0.1 eh Note 4

I foresee the note 4 would sell good again after the Note 5 came out.

guys,  any idea to downgrade to kitkat?
my lollipop seem doing not good. 
many apps will "unfortunately, the apps closed automatically"  when i use the apps until the half way.
so disturb me and i need to repeat and open the apps again.  now even facebook also jumping out once awhile when i scrolling it. 

need help all sifu!  thx

Chrome I deem as worst Android browser. It is bloated, take up too much memory, laggy and generally inefficient. Is a BIG failure from Google
There are so much better, faster, more features, smoother alternatives out there
Test each one and find your favourite
My favorites in order of preference ( after 9 years using Android on so many type of phones )  : Boat, Dolphin, Next, CM
I will never consider Opera, Firefox while some users somehow love them

u mean right nw i shud do a factory reset??
yeah weh.  crash also happen,  fed up.  aiks