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post Nov 27 2015, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 26 2015, 08:32 PM)
I read at OCN from Kizwan either Crimson driver or Radeon Setting will lock your GPU clock speed even after reboot but reset the voltage.  rclxub.gif
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Only when your computer crash while overclocking & overvolting. The driver remember your last clocks but not voltage if your computer crashed. In normal reboot, the driver remember both clocks & voltage.
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post Dec 1 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(arifhasim85 @ Dec 1 2015, 01:34 PM)
clock to clock, r9 390 vs r9 290 give same performance until the extra 4gb of 390 start to kick in.. same goes to r9 390x vs r9 290x. however, both r9 390x and 390 have better oc potential and cooling compared to the old 290/290x.

sos: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/09/21/.../9#.Vl0uyHYrLIU
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Not really. Overclocking potential pretty much similar between 290/290X & 390/390X. In general, 390/390X have better memory overclocking, up to 1700 & above but I also have seen some can't even break 16XX range. Many 290/290X can do 1500 to 1600 on the memory while some can not. There's some 290/290X cards that can do 1700 & above on the memory too. One of my card for example can do above 1700 on the memory. It's all about silicon lottery. Gaming at 1200 on the core is doable on 290/290X if watercooling & I believe on the 390/390X as well.
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post Dec 7 2015, 02:22 PM

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Anyone know the cheapest 1440p monitor?

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post Dec 19 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Johnny Walker @ Dec 19 2015, 01:40 AM)
can u guys suggest me which 1 should I get?
r9 290x vapor or r9 390?
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290X because it is fully unlocked card, 2816 stream cores. Also last time I checked Vapor X have the best cooling.
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post Dec 19 2015, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(kebeckham7 @ Dec 19 2015, 07:17 AM)
being google around to find the best out of this 2.fury x and fury. the power cosumption is still the same ?where can i get the best price for this? in KL maybe. need to change my almost 6 years old radeon 5850. advise me. going to KL nextweek.
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Fury X.
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post Dec 19 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(kebeckham7 @ Dec 19 2015, 02:27 PM)
ok thanks....one shop selling HIS fury X for 2899.00 in lelong (GBros) ...i think its without GST and postage or the price is not updated.
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Sorry, I don't know any shop is selling Fury X at best price. All I see above 3300. At this point I would just add a couple of hundreds & go for 980Ti.

There is a guy selling used Fury for 2200 at garage sales. He live in Penang though.
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post Dec 30 2015, 04:30 PM

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For whether PSU is enough question, don't look at low or high tier or even the PSU total wattage. Always look at whether the PSU is single or dual or multiple +12V rail(s) & their amperage. For example, nzxkore's 600W PSU have two rails +12V1 & +12V2. +12V2 for CPU only while +12V1 for everything else. With this PSU, it basically less than 264W for the gpu.

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post Dec 31 2015, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 31 2015, 03:39 AM)
QUOTE(kizwan @ Dec 30 2015, 04:30 PM)

For whether PSU is enough question, don't look at low or high tier or even the PSU total wattage. Always look at whether the PSU is single or dual or multiple +12V rail(s) & their amperage. For example, nzxkore's 600W PSU have two rails +12V1 & +12V2. +12V2 for CPU only while +12V1 for everything else. With this PSU, it basically less than 264W for the gpu.
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That's now how it works.

Do read up this, explained clearly.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3990
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Nah, that is basically how it work with dual +12V rail PSU. Check ATX specification. The PSU in question is ATX12V v2.3 compliance according to the manufacturer website.
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ATX12V 2.0[edit]

  • Most power is now provided on 12 V rails. The standard specifies that two independent 12 V rails (12 V2 for the four-pin connector and 12 V1 for everything else) with independent overcurrent protection are needed to meet the power requirements safely (some very high power PSUs have more than two rails, recommendations for such large PSUs are not given by the standard).
  • The power on 3.3 V and 5 V rails was significantly reduced.
  • The main ATX power connector was extended to 24 pins. The extra four pins provide one additional 3.3 V, 5 V and 12 V circuit.
  • The six-pin AUX connector from ATX12V 1.x was removed because the extra 3.3 V and 5 V circuits which it provided are now incorporated in the 24-pin main connector.
  • The power supply is required to include a Serial ATA power cable.
  • Many other specification changes and additions


The "four-pin connector" is the ATX12V or P4 cable for the CPU.

Also even form jonnyguru:-
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Typical multiple +12V rail configurations:

  • 2 x 12V rails

    • Original ATX12V specification's division of +12V rails.
    • One rail to the CPU, one rail to everything else.
    • VERY old school since it's very likely that "everything else" may include a graphics card that requires a PCIe connector.
    • Typically only seen on PSU's < 600W.


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post Dec 31 2015, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(rurushu @ Dec 31 2015, 12:06 PM)
hmm.... is the reason they suggest like twice the power requirement due to the PSU's best performing at 50% load?
Because I read somewhere (I forgotten whhich article, but i think is in Tom's Hardware) that if a PSU is constantly drawing maximum power, it will reduce its components' lifespan...  hmm.gif
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That is why it is recommended to get a good quality PSU. Even electronics will not live forever, they have life expectancy too. A good quality PSU will be able to deliver max rated wattage continuously without any ill effect. PSU manufacturer know how long their PSU going to last & this is how they give warranty. If the PSU have 5 years warranty, that is the minimum life expectancy for that PSU. The PSU may live longer but the efficiency may drop by then which means it will need to draw more power from the wall to deliver the same wattage. Also when a good quality PSU go out, it will not take your computer components with it.
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post Dec 31 2015, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 31 2015, 03:33 PM)
Yes but you're quoting old specs.

If what you said about rail dedicated to CPU and rail dedicated to OTHERS

There's a reason why that same article we're referring to says
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Read up the details on this page http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/306437-2...estion-answered
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The NON-ISSUE comment is about the quality (power delivery) in general. Basically the article is saying, as long as the PSU is a good quality PSU, it doesn't matter whether the PSU is single or multiple rails.

Regarding dual-rails PSU, the division of +12V rails is pretty much +12V2 for the CPU & +12V1 for everything else. Unless the connectors on the PSU have choices to connect the cables to +12V1 or +12V2, the division of +12V rails apply to all dual-rail PSUs. The PSU I commented on, the "Compliance with Intel ATX 12V V2.3" already gave it away. More than two rails PSUs is different story.
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post Dec 31 2015, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 31 2015, 06:26 PM)
I'm not disagreeing with what you mentioned, it's just that that's old specs.

It was like that, nowadays dual-rail / single rail no issue. The problem with your earlier post was that many may have thought that having multi-rail is not a good thing.
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The problem is that you did not read my earlier post correctly. No one talking about multi rail not good that time.
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post Dec 31 2015, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 31 2015, 08:53 PM)
ehh actually I did.
With that bolded part, I'm under the impression that you're making an issue out of a non-issue matter.

Furthermore the following part about "+12V2 for CPU only while +12V1 for everything else." while true, is not applicable these days, hence non-issue.
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Please don't jump to conclusions before you know what I'm actually trying to say.

I replied after I read these:-
QUOTE(nzxkore @ Dec 30 2015, 10:02 AM)
Hey guys..
Need some help here.
My old gc giveup last saturday(gtx570)
bought new sapphire r9 390 oc..
I update my bios to latest 4.3 p67a gd55..
Once i power on the fan not even spinning and no display on monitor.
My pc powered by Vantec ion 2+ 600W. I did calculation and total load wattage is around 497w only.

Thanks

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Dec 30 2015, 11:17 AM)
this psu not enuf juice la, i have exact psu like you after years go by the efficiency drops
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QUOTE(nzxkore @ Dec 30 2015, 11:44 AM)
Oh dam..
Btw any recomended brand /wattage?
Seasonic?corsair?cm?silverstone?
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Dec 30 2015, 12:33 PM)
I got myself MSI R9 390 for my new pc and used Superflower Leadex Gold 750W  smile.gif

but I am following the recommended requirement from here

But i heard 650W should be fine if your PSU is higher tier like the Seasonic M12II EVO  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Dec 30 2015, 04:30 PM)
For whether PSU is enough question, don't look at low or high tier or even the PSU total wattage. Always look at whether the PSU is single or dual or multiple +12V rail(s) & their amperage. For example, nzxkore's 600W PSU have two rails +12V1 & +12V2. +12V2 for CPU only while +12V1 for everything else. With this PSU, it basically less than 264W for the gpu.
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Basically what I'm saying to them is that don't judge whether nzxkore's 600W PSU is enough or not enough based on the total wattage but look at the +12V rail(s) & the amperage. The last two sentences are me showing why the nzxkore's 600W PSU is not enough.
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post Jan 6 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 6 2016, 03:00 PM)
Is it? VRM usually rated at 125c, will it throttle at 100c?
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You can see in the video, they measured temp on the center of the card which go up to 103C. So the actual temp for VRM is likely at least slightly higher than that. However I doubt the card was throttling because VRM overheating because the card already throttling at the beginning of the test. Remember 290X cards are TDP limited when running furmark which means the core will throttling when running furmark. This apply to 295x2 too since it's based on 290X (x2) anyway. Having said that, the VDDC power reading in the video doesn't look right at all.

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post Jan 6 2016, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 6 2016, 10:36 PM)
Yeah saw that, just i'm not sure if the GPU will throttle when the VRM hit 100c, from past experience it did not but that is old tech without fancy PowerTune 2.0.
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I see. biggrin.gif Actually it shouldn't throttling with vrm at 100C on Hawaii cards.
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post Feb 14 2016, 02:04 AM

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Nah, that is the declared card value for custom.
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post Feb 15 2016, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Feb 14 2016, 10:41 PM)
Does is reflect the retail value?
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I don't know. Hopefully retail less than that. If it's 6.7k, I'll rather go green or retire from gaming altogether. smile.gif

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post Mar 8 2016, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 8 2016, 02:41 PM)
incoming question in hardware section, "should i upgrade to high end gpu or should i get HTC Vive"
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Well, do your current gpu have enough powerhouse for VR?
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post Mar 12 2016, 12:12 PM

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Any other older games that going to get DX12 patch? BF4 maybe? GTAV?
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post Mar 20 2016, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 19 2016, 08:45 PM)
To the R9 Nano users out there,
  does your Nano ever experience thermal throttling? How's the fan noise to maintain max performance (without thermal throttling) in our hot weather?

After reading hardocp review 1 & review 2 , I'm disappointed.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Mar 19 2016, 09:16 PM)
I'm still confused about that, hope Nano's owner can clarify. Is the card thermal throttle or power throttle?
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Stock Power Limit & TDP can cause throttling even if temp is low. Just increase power limit.
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post Mar 24 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 24 2016, 10:11 PM)
Nah, I prefer dealing directly with the manufacturer / distributor in regards to faulty hardware(s)
I highly doubt it's the game issue

I have 3 cards in my hand right now
1. PowerColor TurboDuo R9 280X
2. ASUS R9 390 Strix
3. PowerColor Devil R9 390X

Both 280X & 390 runs NFS Most Wanted just fine but when I install the 390X, the game keeps on crashing doh.gif
It's not a BSOD issue, the game just crashes

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Try set power limit to the max & increase voltage a little bit.

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