Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 AMD Radeon™ Discussion V13, Radeon Software 16.5.3, God Speed

views
     
SUSHuman10
post Jul 26 2015, 08:35 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(S4PH @ Jul 26 2015, 01:03 AM)
works like a charm bro, now the temps are a lot better. never knew such solution  doh.gif
*
Glad you got my point.

During my SLI experience last time, the bottom card will be hotter.

If I run better cooling card at top, it will be 6x Celsius while the bottom card at 8x.

If I swap them, both at 7x, more sensible to run in long run.
SUSHuman10
post Aug 27 2015, 10:42 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 27 2015, 10:38 AM)
$650 for R9 Nano. That's close to RM3k laugh.gif

Ah wells.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-nano-unl...faster-gtx-980/
*
Trololol, FuryX pricing minus AIO (and 2 power phase).

Might as well get FuryX and undervolt own self?
SUSHuman10
post Aug 27 2015, 10:45 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(khelben @ Aug 27 2015, 10:43 AM)
Yeah so the previous article about Nano having a premium price since it's the only awesome mini-ITX card, is right after all laugh.gif
*
It's not bout premium, but priced the same as its biggest brother with full specs and premium of AIO, trololol.

I rather softmod FuryX myself than getting the Nano...

This post has been edited by Human10: Aug 27 2015, 10:46 AM
SUSHuman10
post Aug 27 2015, 02:58 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Aug 27 2015, 12:24 PM)
I guess most people doesn't seem to understand the Nano - it's intended for the mini-ITX/microATX crowd, where space is always a premium.  I have a microATX gaming machine, and while it does fit a 980Ti (theoretically) laugh.gif , but it will be a very tight squeeze.  sweat.gif
My 7950 does fit into the case, but it is a huge pain whenever I need to take it out for cleaning - I have to remove the HDD cage and the CPU fan from the case before removing the card, which is tedious.  sweat.gif

It might not appeal to the HTPC crowd, but for those with tiny cases, this card is a godsend to them.  icon_idea.gif

Don't write off a product just because it does not appeal to you.  This is obviously a product that appeals to a very small crowd, and I happen to belong to that crowd.  laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

Of course, the low yields of HBM may contribute to the high pricing - the pricing is likely to fall when there is better yields.  hmm.gif

Addendum: If the Nano shares similar specs to the Fury X - then technically we can flash the VBIOS of the Fury X with a VBIOS from a Nano for greater power efficiency?  hmm.gif

Also, this is a very niche product, highlighted by some reddit users:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdvancedMicroDevic...full_fiji_chip/

A niche product is not going to be cheap...  icon_idea.gif
*
Nano < FuryX in no AIO cooler and less power phase

You can't blame the yield of HBM for high price since FuryX can do at same price while providing more, and Fury Vanilla also have the same HBM at a cheaper price.
SUSHuman10
post Sep 5 2015, 03:52 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
The situation don't look good for AMD again, TPU butthurt for not getting review sample for Nano.
http://www.techpowerup.com/215776/amd-rade...by-tpu-not.html
SUSHuman10
post Sep 7 2015, 03:28 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(sai86 @ Sep 7 2015, 02:13 PM)
390 DARAB 2.

the spacing is quite important, else ppl will think its 390X2 = 390X CF.
since FuryX / Nano is out, will we see dual GPU = FuryX X2?
iinm, i remember AMD slide got shown dual gpu monster hmm.gif
*
Yes, AMD do state they have official FuryX x2 just like R9 295 x2 last time.
SUSHuman10
post Sep 11 2015, 06:01 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Sep 11 2015, 02:16 AM)
Higher leakage is usually better at overclocking because they tend to be more stable with extra volt and with WC keeping the leakage, it will overclock much better than lower leakage chip.
The Fury-X still lack proper voltage control and the VRM temp is somewhat worrying with extra voltage.
It's a product that cater to a niche audience with specific form factor and use-case scenario. How many people own 970 mini anyway?
Overall the Nano impressed me apart from the steep price. I was expecting 390-ish performance with thermal throttle everywhere.
*
So there's no thermal throttle on Nano? I saw in one video posted above stating that the card is running cool under 75C all the time, that is seriously impressive.
SUSHuman10
post Sep 13 2015, 02:12 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(kizwan @ Sep 13 2015, 01:48 AM)
Well, that's comparison which concluded the Nano is more power efficient than 290X (typical board power: 175W vs. 250 = 30% lower on Nano) but better performance than 290X (37.966 fps vs. 27.207 fps in FC4). I'm sticking with my guns tongue.gif because performance per watts = power efficiency is not accurate IMO.

Anyway, ignoring that, I get your drift (your original previous post). However, since Nano is lower clocks & lower power consumption card of Fury X, then the performance per watts ratio is equal between Nano & Fury X, don't you think?
*
Nope, FuryX had being known to scale quite badly with voltage increase IIRC. That mean downcloking or downvolting will probably save a large sum of energy while proportionally less impact to performance. Think bout this, a card tend to eat a lot more power when heavily overclocked/volt, while the performance gained from overclocking may not be as much and certainly not proportional.

This post has been edited by Human10: Sep 13 2015, 02:15 AM
SUSHuman10
post Sep 13 2015, 02:32 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 13 2015, 02:17 AM)
Why would it not be Power Efficiency?

It's a matter of # of power used to deliver X performance.
*
I think I got his point.

His point is that energy efficiency should solely based on the energy consumption, be it the performance is few times different. The key here is "energy consumption".

But for it to be more meaningful and useful to us, we relate the factor of performance into the equation, that's why performance per watt is what we usually look at when talk about efficiency.
SUSHuman10
post Sep 13 2015, 02:45 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(kizwan @ Sep 13 2015, 02:34 AM)
No, we're talking at stock.
*
Stock FuryX have bad voltage scaling.

Efficiency (or you prefer to call it performance per watt) is generally higher at lower clock rate and voltage.

In other words, FuryX stock is like Nano on overclock. But if factor in binning for better ASIC on Nano, Nano probably still will be the more efficient one even running at same speed as of FuryX.
SUSHuman10
post Sep 20 2015, 07:50 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(JohnLai @ Sep 20 2015, 07:17 PM)
No need to change PSU, your FSP Hexa 550W is sufficient.
*
Since Hexa is dual rails and rated 18A (bout 216W) each rail, its safer to use GPU with power consumption under 200W with that.
user posted image
SUSHuman10
post Sep 21 2015, 01:11 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(JohnLai @ Sep 21 2015, 12:45 AM)
..........You guys do realize 390x has two pcie power connectors. Not to mention the PSU has two +12 rails as well. It is sufficient providing he doesnt overclock.

First PCIE source from PCIE power connector.
Second PCIE source from molex/sata to PCIE power connector.
*
The general rule of using a PSU, avoid using more than the connectors being supplied unless you really sure bout it.

Yeah, there's converter, but it's usage are often discouraged particularly for the reason discussed above. Another reason is the build quality of the converter itself sometimes isn't good.

This post has been edited by Human10: Sep 21 2015, 01:13 AM
SUSHuman10
post Sep 21 2015, 04:17 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
6,774 posts

Joined: Nov 2010
QUOTE(kizwan @ Sep 21 2015, 02:18 AM)
Well, both from same rail, +12V1. The +12V2 is mainly for CPU.
*
I think FSP's approach is one rail for PCIE, unless they changed it in newer models.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=...Story2&reid=341
QUOTE
On this unit, since the PCI-E connector has the 12V2 rail all to itself...



EDITED, this is another variant of Hexa, seems like it config PCIE with molex/sata and so on.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/antec-vp450...upply-review/6/
QUOTE
The two +12 V rails are distributed as follows:

    +12V1: All cables but the EPS12V/ATX12V
    +12V2: The EPS12V/ATX12V cable

This is the typical distribution used by power supplies with two +12 V virtual rails.



This post has been edited by Human10: Sep 21 2015, 04:30 AM

Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0484sec    0.37    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 26th November 2025 - 12:04 PM