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post Jun 24 2015, 09:46 AM

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you left out one important thing. Land owner will have to absorb all input tax from construction and any fees involved.

Custom only recognized the lawful and rightful of this JV owner which is the land owner not developer.

Nowaday JV is unlike previous. cannot goyang kaki and wait to harvest.
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post Jun 24 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(jason1986 @ Jun 24 2015, 09:44 AM)
the landowner wants houses instead of cash.  notworthy.gif
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If i were the land owner, i will take the cash unless the JV development is commercial or industrial
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post Jun 24 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(jason1986 @ Jun 24 2015, 09:51 AM)
Well, i would take the money and ciao also. But this landowner wants the houses to collect rental.
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then u have to remind him on the GST part.
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post Jun 24 2015, 09:57 AM

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it is not only his portion affected, its throughout.

says total construction cost is rm 27 million. Im basing on one of my current project

6% will be rm 1.6million
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post Jun 24 2015, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(jason1986 @ Jun 24 2015, 10:21 AM)
From what i read online, supply of agricultural land and supply of residential properties is exempt from GST.

If by entering into the JVA with the developer is considered a supply of land on the part of the landowner, then it should be exempt.

If it is taken that developer supplies the residential houses to the landowner as remuneration, there will be no GST also.

The only GST applicable is on the developer's part when they purchase raw materials and equipments etc for building the houses but because it is residential, they can only adjust on the selling price and cannot charge GST to the purchasers.

But end of the day, still very pening. No clear guidelines. Will have to check with customs.
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Thats why, land owner become end user. last tier of tax from contractor, supplier, specialist, consultant and authority for all supplied goods and services.

I try not to confuse you with GDV hence im using TCC as reference.

Ultimate question is, does the contra value amounting RM10 million is worth the land cost after 2 or 3 years from now excluding the said RM1.6 million tax.

JV agreement is sensitive nowaday with all this GST come around.
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post Jun 24 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 24 2015, 11:24 AM)
you are absolutely spot on hence my closing statement that the landowner better do proper due diligence on the tax structure of the deal.
new JV structures butt hurt the landowner big time!

best to engage an experienced tax agent to structure the deal properly.

on paper, the deal is attractive.
but looking at the cost of the development, suspect it is not a prime area.
hence i would rather pegged it to % GDV rather than physical units.
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thats true kochin kor. even my melaka JV project also last minute pull off due to this taxation matter.

market is bad, we just cant simply increase the selling price to recover the super premium easy money 6% to government.

CASH is king nowaday. Get the cash convert to USD and SG.
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post Jun 24 2015, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 24 2015, 02:13 PM)
talk about tough time, peri kor, your company recruiting bor?
fat cat looking for job.  cry.gif
let me follow you cari makan, can?
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my boss also tighten up cash flow. luckily a very penny wise boss, i believe can maintain our wages for next 2 years even without project running.

i also looking for jobs now. Eco world and law development is recruiting
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Tavia88 @ Jun 24 2015, 11:22 PM)
Peri gor.., you got any on running projects at Melacca? Mind to share about the foreigner consent's stuff? As one of my client pull hand brake because cant submit consent as their project is high rise without strata title yet, hence bank cant release payment for foreigner buyer. Any jalan to settle this issue??  cry.gif  sweat.gif
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i dont think is foreigner buyer issue, is the bank with the developer issue. your buyer should get those panel banks with the developer unless quota full. Outside banks may look at the encumbrance of the land especially leasehold land in Melaka. Then the viable of the project. Look like the risk assessment from bank is high to the project, worst come to worst, tell your buyer pay in cash.

i hope i interpret your question correctly. Melaka is tough market.
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post Jun 25 2015, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jun 25 2015, 09:13 AM)
EW no hiew fat cat.
apa itu law development.
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Law development sdn bhd or aka TS Law Holding @ kuchai lama, got few key vacancy.

They are planning something big at prime land.

 

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