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ks1981
post Nov 2 2015, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(zul_4E @ Nov 2 2015, 01:54 PM)
Mind your language guys.. It is supposed to discuss and get update this platform. Better you guys have private message rather than bursting up here. Just my 2 cent.

Last Saturday night the rain was heavily pour and lightnings flashed. Suddenly the house went blackout. I went to the DB and turn back the 'kicked' fuse. It resulted my TV and Astro burnt. Later on, I went upstairs during turning up the bedroom light there was a minor explosion sound. This thing repeated in every rooms and toilets (upper floor which with plaster ceiling). It ended that only the staircase lamp the only one can function now. I suspected there was a leakage from the roof which the water sip in between the roof tiles. However, there is no watermark at the ceiling.

From the damages, I have lodged a report to SD earlier on Sunday. They supposed to come for a visit this afternoon. My concern is what is the cause of the problem? Is it the wiring? Roof leakage? Lightning arrestor failure? Grounding failure? Who should borne the damages?

Appreciate your opinion in this.

Sime Darby Properties (SARON 2)

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Hi there,

Seems like its a major issue. Any updates from the developer so far? I'm starting to get worry that it might also affect my unit.

On the roof top leaking, i have actually observed a slight watermark in the second room ceiling. Have reported this but usure if the developer has rectified this.

Though Saron is affordable house, of all the problems i see our forumers posted so far, it gives me the feel that the developer was cutting corners to maximize their margin.


ks1981
post Nov 2 2015, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(zul_4E @ Nov 2 2015, 02:57 PM)
Ya..will ask them to check the arrestor as well.
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where is the surge arrester located? If there is a surge arrester then it should protect the equipments from damage. Possible to share a photo?
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post Nov 2 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Archronicles @ Nov 2 2015, 03:07 PM)
The surge arrestor has to be checked for proper grounding. It functions to divert the strike to earth, if not properly grounded it is basically useless.
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Never expect such defect would occur in SD project if it is true. Furthermore houses there are located in a mountainous region, the developer should be aware of the risk. Now i'm worried!
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post Nov 2 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(jensenz @ Nov 2 2015, 05:16 PM)
My Saron 2nd room also has a very obvious water mark. What is the output from your report to SD ?
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Submitted my defects report to them a month ago. Till today they have not responded. Guess i need to give a stress call to them again.
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post Nov 3 2015, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(zul_4E @ Nov 3 2015, 09:07 AM)
Hi All,

I have met the M&E of SD yesterday evening. They have checked the arrestor and grounding of the house. There is no issue on the wiring and the arrestor.They even inspected the arrestor grounding. It was in good condition. Reading was 0.2ohm (below 3ohm is consider good condition). The culprit that causes the things burnt was the Astro dish. It was installed by Astro contractor which is not according to spec. It it located at the same level of the arrestor (too high). I never realized the placement of the dish since it was installed during dusk.

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I requested them to check if there is any leakage from the roof tiles that can cause shorting to my down lights. It resulted the found a cracked roof tiles. Immediately replaced. But that crack is too small any does not contribute to any leakage. So, the conclusion is the Astro dish that contributes to the damages.

Will Astro be responsible of this issue?
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Thanks for the feedback. One of the reno contractor mentioned that that area is very prone to lightning strike. So have to be careful. I'm planning to install a surge protection device on the switchboard to minimize the risk.
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post Nov 3 2015, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Archronicles @ Nov 3 2015, 12:28 PM)
Please share the SPD that you're planning to install. My electrical guy suggested BY1 Voltage Surge Suppressors by EPS. Don't know how good it is and never heard of the brand before.
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Sure will do. Some reputable brands that you can consider either ABB or Schneider Electric.
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post Nov 4 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Archronicles @ Nov 4 2015, 09:50 AM)
Just checked the DB. Our units already came standard with ABB OVR T2 40-275 C and OVR T2 70 N C. What else could we add on to this config? A Type 1 protection?
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Yea i see there is already an SPD there......will ask other opinions later.
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post Nov 4 2015, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(jeghui @ Oct 30 2015, 02:24 PM)
Report to authority if buyer rents/sells the unit for Saron.

Greedy, corrupt.
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i realized that a number of owners are putting up their units for rental. How would it affect the security there later? Feeling sad that it is being taken for granted.....
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post Nov 5 2015, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Archronicles @ Nov 5 2015, 12:38 AM)
Yes however upon some research, the Type 2 SPD is not sufficient. Since our house comes with a lightning rod, the mandatory requirement is a Type 1 SPD.
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Thanks for the valuable info.
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post Nov 5 2015, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Archronicles @ Nov 5 2015, 11:25 AM)
By right the SPD Type 1 should've been installed by SD themselves. This has been overlooked by their M&E consultants and it is not right that we have to install this ourselves. Anybody interested in the subject can refer to the attachment by Schneider Pg14.

Any Nobat residents would be kind enough to share a picture of their Distribution board (DB)? I'd be interested to know if this was installed for their unit or it's "conveniently" left out as well. Nobat seem to have lightning rods as well.
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Yes it appears so if based on the guideline you have provided. Buildings with ligthning rod should have type 1 + type 2 SPD. This also clearly indicated that the area is prone to lightning strike. How to bring up this issue to SD? Can we also refer to TNB to rectify if this design is compliant?

SD customer service officer very good in 'tai chi'. Everytime i try clarify some issues with them they always say refer to their contractor. I'm beginning to 'fed up' with their behaviour.
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post Nov 11 2015, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Archronicles @ Nov 11 2015, 08:38 AM)
If someone would like to voluntarily spearhead I'd be very willing to help & be part of the community group smile.gif With that maybe we could even organize to do fencing for Saron or just monthly "TT" sessions to discuss current issues.
The last I've checked with DEHN Type 1+2 is RM1200 including installation supervision from the seller. You'd have to engage with your own electrician to perform the actual installation. I've yet to get a quote from ABB. If you're also scouting around and have a better price please share.

Effort wise, I'd say not much. It will be just like installing a MCB I suppose, not sure how much re-wiring work would be involved. Good point, I'll ask and get back to you.
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Hi,

mind sharing the supplier contact details? would also like to get a quote from them.
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post Nov 13 2015, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(hamboldt @ Nov 12 2015, 11:54 PM)
Looking at current condition, I think the enforcement won't be in action.
I believe there are not clear instruction or regulations for any authority to inspect on this matter.

By the way, my left neighbor were rented out and my right neighbor planning to rent out as well. Even my opposite house are rented too.
Kind of disappointed since I though this neighborhood will be solely owner stay.
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Agreed...this has to be highlighted to the developer. Also those property agents are the ones who further inflicted the situation. At this point even the house is rented out a formal agreement cannot be established and therefore if anything goes wrong the owner cannot take any legal action.

Cannot understand also the rental basically ranging around 1000-1100, monthly installment is about 1500-1600. Ada untung ka?
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post Nov 16 2015, 09:10 AM

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Anyone done termite control? When it should be done? Before or after renpvation? Any good supplier to intro?
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post Nov 17 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(hamboldt @ Nov 17 2015, 09:29 PM)
There are no point arguing this issue. I'm just stated my point of view and past experience.
If it is part of the Nobat purchases which stated in the S&P or legal document, then it belong to Nobat resident.
If anything arise in the future, it will be the matter in between resident of Nobat and Saron 2 only.

By the way, just got this from my purchase file.
I believe both Saron and Nobat brochures will have the same field drawn too.
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For Saron home owner, my renovation contractor told me that the ceiling above the entrance door (above is the master bathroom) have some minor crack hairline. (He suspect it was the concrete slab shrink and sink issue)

He told me that it might lead to water leak issue in the future and ask me consult the developer contractor for action.
I'm now discussing with my wife to consider re-do the waterproofing & re-tiling for master bathroom but it pretty expensive around rm3.5k.
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Better spend a bit to waterproof than you spend big later to fix when the problem occurs. Water leaking will cause serious problem to your ceiling later and worst it will collapse.

I have decided to do waterproofing using cement compound. The area should cover at least 1 feet from the floor. Known brands like Pentens or Sika can be used.
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post Nov 18 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(hamboldt @ Nov 17 2015, 11:08 PM)
I understand that issue. Price for doing it now or afterwards is quite identical, just the matter of cleanliness during the renovation.
My renovation contractor is quite skillful and indeed he is good in waterproofing matter. I'll need to discuss with him further this weekend.

My friend in hardware line business introduce me the below solution, I am not sure whether it really works for long terms.
Give it a shot if you dare to try it in your house,
Surfapore C by NanoG
Galaxy Waterproof Solution by Winstar Trading
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I still prefer the conventional method though. Gives me more assurance. smile.gif
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post Dec 21 2015, 10:17 AM

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Hi everyone,

Any new discovery made on your Saron 2 property? Pls share if you have any latest info.
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(deathTh3Cannon @ Jan 14 2016, 11:26 AM)
can we still report for defects if the renovation has started?
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areas not affected by the renovation are still covered under warranty. Call Ali 017 604 7511@if you have a defect. He is sitting in one of Saron 1 houses.
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post Feb 22 2016, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(hamboldt @ Feb 21 2016, 11:38 PM)
I'm not sure either.
My friend just told me that that particular supervisor got pick up phone two days back saying having vacation some where but didn't show up until now.

My friend house are about completion, but still have some leftover to settle. Maybe will find others to settle the remaining if cannot get a mutual agreement with another boss.
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Any idea who the contractor is?

 

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