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post Jul 18 2020, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(iskandar100k @ Jul 16 2020, 12:41 PM)
Anyone here owns LG Puricare water purifier? I just got mine 2 days back and today my throat feels dry and itchy. Do you guys have the same experience? Also the water taste a bit like metal.
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Have you flushed cartridges prior to use? Try to flush it well for good 20-30 min.
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post Jul 19 2020, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Jul 17 2020, 03:31 PM)
Thanks for the info.
Reason for the question of flow rate. We are cooking frequently, boiling big pot of soup and sometimes making juices.
With the rinsing/soaking of the ingredients prior to cooking, it take quite a while to fill up the pot of water.
Hence it's not just for drinking only.

What's your actual water flow rate like after a few months(~3 or 4 months)?
Assume you are usi g. What's your actual water flow rate like after a few months(~3 or 4 months)?
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Ic, no problem.
Something to bear in mind that is, if the filter flow too fast, the filtering efficiency could be affected too.

Like normal user, I don't much worried on the flow rate.
Although I'm family of 4, but it doesn't bother us much. I only concerned on the filtered water is safe to drink for my kids.
I think you already know that the cartridge has the lifespan of 5000 litre water or 1 year of water consumption whichever comes first. And also depends on the quality of the water in your area.
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post Jul 19 2020, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Jul 17 2020, 06:40 PM)
No idea bro..

I just got it recently also..

After comparison vs other brands, choose espring due to the lower cost in the long run and its certify by nsf..
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Indeed, wise choice.

Anyone need more info, can pm here.
As the trade in is until this month end only, no more extension period after this.
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post Jul 21 2020, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(luvjim @ Jul 19 2020, 09:56 PM)
Indeed, wise choice.

Anyone need more info, can pm here.
As the trade in is until this month end only, no more extension period after this.
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as always buy at full price je. kan ada installment. laugh.gif
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post Jul 21 2020, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 21 2020, 11:13 AM)
as always buy at full price je. kan ada installment. laugh.gif
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got another minimum deduction of rm200, tak mau ke?
i don't know la, up to you all
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post Jul 22 2020, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(luvjim @ Jul 21 2020, 03:05 PM)
got another minimum deduction of rm200, tak mau ke?
i don't know la, up to you all
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baru check my account. is 400 off for x brand, and 600 off for predecessor model.
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post Jul 22 2020, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 22 2020, 05:06 PM)
baru check my account. is 400 off for x brand, and 600 off for predecessor model.
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your trade in promo document missing another x brand price?

x brand worth rm500 - rm1499
rebate rm200
wts 1/ x brand worth rm1500 above
rebate rm400
used espring / wts 2
rebate rm600

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post Jul 22 2020, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(luvjim @ Jul 22 2020, 07:13 PM)
your trade in promo document missing another x brand price?

x brand worth rm500 - rm1499
rebate rm200
wts 1/ x brand worth rm1500 above
rebate rm400
used espring / wts 2
rebate rm600

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not bad wo. quite generous to give 200 off.
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post Jul 22 2020, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 22 2020, 09:46 PM)
not bad wo. quite generous to give 200 off.
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yala, time to change to trusted brand
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post Jul 23 2020, 11:43 AM

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esprings is good but really expensive as it is Amway, so a lot of markup there.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 23 2020, 11:43 AM)
esprings is good but really expensive as it is Amway, so a lot of markup there.
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To be honest, no company is doing charity.

Wait until you find out local made RO water filter cost price from Sungai Buloh OEM Factory, then you will complain why those Coway, Diamond, Cuckoo or whatever way US/Japan/Korea brand so expensive even there is no multi-level scheme for the company to markup.

Reason most skeptical people avoid company such like Amway or Elken or Tupperware (well these companies sell via Direct Selling method) is because the commission scheme is transparent to the member/agent /consumer.

Why traditional retail business model people dont have this mindset? because customer didn't know the product actual markup percentage.

Try ask few of the reseller here. See they willing to tell you their profit margin or not. There are few reseller are LYN member that sell in brick and mortal shop and Lazada/Shopee too.

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post Jul 24 2020, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 24 2020, 11:26 AM)
To be honest, no company is doing charity.

Wait until you find out local made RO water filter cost price from Sungai Buloh OEM Factory, then you will complain why those Coway, Diamond, Cuckoo or whatever way US/Japan/Korea brand so expensive even there is no multi-level scheme for the company to markup.

Reason most skeptical people avoid company such like Amway or Elken or Tupperware (well these companies sell via Direct Selling method) is because the commission scheme is transparent to the member/agent /consumer.

Why traditional retail business model people dont have this mindset? because customer didn't know the product actual markup percentage.

Try ask few of the reseller here. See they willing to tell you their profit margin or not. There are few reseller are LYN member that sell in brick and mortal shop and Lazada/Shopee too.

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Partially true, but in MLM products, mark up is often significantly higher than in non MLM. I mean, even Apple can only dream about mark ups of MLMs. Every business is no charity, it is true. But when the mark up is 700-1000%. I always give an example of AP Easy Complete. It used to be 900RM, mark up was almost 80%, amazing profit margin, but even that, most was collected by 3M Malaysia, not local resellers.

But so true about local manufacturers. My jaws dropped when I learned some of their prices. Of course their price is not competitive with Chinese manufacturers, but they aren't even competitive compared to US/Europe...

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QUOTE(hestati @ Jul 24 2020, 02:06 PM)
Partially true, but in MLM products, mark up is often significantly higher than in non MLM. I mean, even Apple can only dream about mark ups of MLMs. Every business is no charity, it is true. But when the mark up is 700-1000%. I always give an example of AP Easy Complete. It used to be 900RM, mark up was almost 80%, amazing profit margin, but even that, most was collected by 3M Malaysia, not local resellers.

But so true about local manufacturers. My jaws dropped when I learned some of their prices. Of course their price is not competitive with Chinese manufacturers, but they aren't even competitive compared to US/Europe...
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Worse of the lot is Kangen! 10K+? Can get 2 of the better Panasonic ones for 1 Kangen.
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post Jul 26 2020, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jul 24 2020, 11:26 AM)
To be honest, no company is doing charity.

Wait until you find out local made RO water filter cost price from Sungai Buloh OEM Factory, then you will complain why those Coway, Diamond, Cuckoo or whatever way US/Japan/Korea brand so expensive even there is no multi-level scheme for the company to markup.

Reason most skeptical people avoid company such like Amway or Elken or Tupperware (well these companies sell via Direct Selling method) is because the commission scheme is transparent to the member/agent /consumer.

Why traditional retail business model people dont have this mindset? because customer didn't know the product actual markup percentage.

Try ask few of the reseller here. See they willing to tell you their profit margin or not. There are few reseller are LYN member that sell in brick and mortal shop and Lazada/Shopee too.

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It is true, but when tell this to skeptical person they will bombard you.
Actually nothing wrong being skeptical, coz I am one of them too last time.
But everything you heard from skeptical person(because they want you to think like them also), you just gotta put some effort to clarify it other wise, ownself rugi only.

Be it agent of Amway or simply just a user, they are all buying at the same cost price.
But still no people will trust, then no choice.

Heck, even local stores, like Onking, their margin even higher than Aeon.
Simply because for a rice cooker, Onking sell rm100 more than Aeon. rclxub.gif
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post Aug 2 2020, 07:26 PM

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hi sifus, am considering LG Puricare vs Aquaphor Crystal Eco. which one provides better water quality?

LG puricare are NSF 42, 53 and 401 certified.
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QUOTE(yshear @ Aug 2 2020, 07:26 PM)
hi sifus, am considering LG Puricare vs Aquaphor Crystal Eco. which one provides better water quality?

LG puricare are NSF 42, 53 and 401 certified.
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For instant hot/cold go for LG, if not Aquaphor is also good.
Can try the standard filter housing with a quality 2.5" × 9.75" filter cartridges for good budget filter
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post Aug 4 2020, 09:35 AM

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1. landed or condo? Condo

2. how many pax in your household? 2

3. got senior / babies / people with disease like kidney failure for example in the house? no

4. can you able to do some small DIY installing yourself or not? (like replacement filter yourself?) yes

5. how much u afford to installment per month for at least 5 years? 50/mth or 100/mth or 150/mth?

6. or do u prefer 1-time off purchase? below 1k or 2k or 3k? below 2k

7. do you own external water filter yet? no

8. hot/water function is it a must for you? will you willing to fork out another RM50/mth electricity bill for the feature? or you just stick with thermal pot + fridge cold water? not neccessary.

My priority is to drink water from the tap.

So far I've been looking at the aquaphor crystal eco. Wanna ask if the everpure s-100 can also drink straight from the tap?
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post Aug 4 2020, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(donmaikeru @ Aug 4 2020, 09:35 AM)
1. landed or condo? Condo

2. how many pax in your household? 2

3. got senior / babies / people with disease like kidney failure for example in the house? no

4. can you able to do some small DIY installing yourself or not? (like replacement filter yourself?) yes

5. how much u afford to installment per month for at least 5 years? 50/mth or 100/mth or 150/mth?

6. or do u prefer 1-time off purchase? below 1k or 2k or 3k? below 2k

7. do you own external water filter yet? no

8. hot/water function is it a must for you? will you willing to fork out another RM50/mth electricity bill for the feature? or you just stick with thermal pot + fridge cold water? not neccessary.

My priority is to drink water from the tap.

So far I've been looking at the aquaphor crystal eco. Wanna ask if the everpure s-100 can also drink straight from the tap?
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Not at all, S-100 is carbon filter only. As far as I know, it does not remove heavy metals or bacteria. Moreover, it is Pentek... Ever since Penter outsourced all their production, the quality went downhill. Same for MatriKX unfortunately sad.gif
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post Aug 5 2020, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Aug 4 2020, 11:54 PM)
Not at all, S-100 is carbon filter only. As far as I know, it does not remove heavy metals or bacteria. Moreover, it is Pentek... Ever since Penter outsourced all their production, the quality went downhill. Same for MatriKX unfortunately sad.gif
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Thanks for the reply. Any other filters besides Aquaphor that can drink straight from tap?
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post Aug 6 2020, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(donmaikeru @ Aug 5 2020, 08:09 AM)
Thanks for the reply. Any other filters besides Aquaphor that can drink straight from tap?
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Budget of <Rm2K;

For Counter top can try Tupperware Nano Nature, around <Rm2K.
Bonus: Certified NSF/ANSI 53.
Cons: ~ 5,000Liters filtering capacity, more expensive on filter cartridge replacement.

If you tends to cook at home with lots of rinsing/soaking of fruits, vege, meat, etc, etc, prior to cooking.
IMO this is the best option.For DIY'er under counter water filtration.

Can buy cheaper/value for money by using a standard water filter housing with better quality certified 21/2" × 9 3/4" Universal water filter cartridges capable of 10,000 Gallons of flitration.

Hope that our forum's person @hestati, @Nightfelix & others has a better advise.

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