Thanks hestati, so it means only catridge need to replace, then everything good to go...
Not bad for a budgeted water filter.

This post has been edited by Warsaw89: Mar 26 2018, 08:23 AM

Yes, but no way this system can clean 12000L of water. Surface area of the filter element is very small. My guess is that this system will not perform well if we feed tap water to it. BTW, if you don't mind, give me your old cartridge, I would want to open it up and see how bad it is inside. What,kind of water were you feeding to it?

I though TK AS40 is Alkaline Ionizer filter?

You're right, it is filter + ionizer. The water goes through the cartridge first, then this clean water goes through ionizer. The cartridge is like a micro Aquaphor Crystal Eco inside, sediment+carbon+UF. This is the core of the system.

Just a noob question here since i’ve got not much knowledge on water filters. Is it absolutely necessary to have a POE water filter that is NSF 42/53 certified? And also if i intend to install a POU water filter as well, is it necessary to have a POE water filter that can filter down until 0.0x microns?

Does Sand POE filter affect water pressure ?

Thanks for the detailed analysis hestati, now I have a much clearer picture although I still don't have answer for your questions. I think what you highlighted above is what matter most to me. Also agree that it's all about the price at the end of the day. Elken K100 is at least 2.5k the last I get quoted.

Very interested with this option. When you say you can get does that mean you are selling it? This standard housings is installed at POE as well right? Just a lot less clutter and pipes in comparison to big stainless steel membrane filter but still providing basic filtration for the entire house/condo correct?

I see many people lately are asking about POE. Let me explain from common sense point of view.

First of all, it's important to understand that no matter what kind of POE filter you have, it doesn't give you drinking water. Actually, the filter itself may do so, but then there are pipes and tanks inside your home where water can get contaminated. So POE cannot replace POU, though they can work together for best result.

For most people, POE sediment filter is a good idea. It will remove sand, rust and so on, i.e. particles that can be filtered out mechanically. This is especially important if you live in a condo. I've seen condo water tanks, where frogs, fish and lizards live since some condo managers do not perform maintenance of these tanks.

Second thing is chlorine and other volatile elements. To each it's own, but I find that water in Malaysia is ok for showering and washing as is, so most people will probably be ok with just sediment filter mentioned above. (In China, water smelled so bad that I couldn't even take shower and used clean water to brush teeth.)
One thing to keep in mind is, since chlorine easily evaporates, you end up breathing it. So, if you have a lot of standing water (say 3 toilets that you use regularly, fountains, humidifiers etc), like to take hot shower for long time AND lack ventilation (using AirCon, never opening windows), maybe it's a good idea to add carbon filter to your POE to eliminate chlorine.

You can always start with just sediment and then add carbon if required.

Now, there are 2 types of filters, cartridge and media (AKA sand). I strongly advise cartridge. Sand filters cannot offer low micron rating (their actual rating is 20-100 microns, while cartridge can go as low as 1 and even 0.5 micron), are less efficient and effective at removing chlorine and require regular backwash. They may (just may) be slightly cheaper at first, but not worth it in the long run.

Also, properly designed cartridge POE has insignificant pressure drop compared to media filter.

Hope this helps at least a little.

This post has been edited by hestati: Mar 26 2018, 03:28 PM

Not selling yet, due to my supplier being super slow, but will be selling soon, since I found new supplier hope for April.

I wouldn't mind to advertise any other seller if only he had this option. I found only 10 micron no-name pleated filter on Lazada and the cost is very high.

I have seen it in Ace Hardware but pricing is not very affordable. That was few years ago, not sure still have or not.

10" by 4.5" or other size?

Because 10" by 2.5 available, 20 by 4.5 also, but 10 by 4.5 cannot find

This post has been edited by hestati: Mar 26 2018, 06:01 PM

10" x 2.5", the most common size. I hardly see 10 x 4.5 too.

So what can I do at the moment? Get a cheapo one first with piping fixed? And I am still confuse what exactly this filter is. We are talking about a filter that looks like this picture right?



So I assume the picture above is 10" by 2.5? And what is the main different between 10" 2.5 and 10" 4.5, does it matter? Thanks and much appreciated.

Yes, the picture is the housing for 10" x 2.5" cartridge. Very common and easy to get.
As for 10 x 4.5, the diameter is larger as it offers more surface area and last longer between cartridge replacement. But don't bother about 4.5", you can't get this size easily in the market.

Make sure you ask your plumber to instal double housing in series during the installation so that you can add on carbon cartridge in the second housing if need to. If carbon filter is unnecessary, you can put a good quality 5 micron pleated polyester in it too.

Yes, can get the cheapo for now. I will try to find one for you, today/tomorrow, available locally.

The difference between 2.5" and 4.5" is the flow. The one you showed is 2.5", it's ok for let's say under the sink or shower filter, but too small for whole house/condo.

Do you use a lot of water at the same time? Do you often have a situation where 2 people shower and one washing dishes? If your "at the same time" usage is very high, you may even need 20" by 4.5".

Thanks! Install double housing once and for all so that don't have to mess with the pipping again in the future you mean? If carbon is unnecessary, does it make sense to put two of the same filter?

Thanks! Available locally mostly from this website http://malaysiawaterfilter.com.my/

I also found a lot of xx brand in Jusco and they are cheap (both housing and filter), haven't got the time to visit ACE hardware yet.

Flow is important as my condo water is just so so but I also need the cartridge replacement to be widely available when I needed to replace it. I will be installing the filter at the POE, so not under sink or shower filter. Seems like 20" by 4.5" is the safe route to go, once and for all right? But cost wise will it be double?

Here is my setup at the moment from a local shop for 399.

Consist of 1 carbon block, 1 granular carbon, and 1 fibre sendiment filter.

My total cost including the diamond drill bit was about rm700 plus, including the filter head.

This will be my main drinking tap water, but will still keep to boiling for drinking.

I expect to change once a year, since the existing water in the condo is quite clean itself, aside from the chlorine.




This post has been edited by ShenWoo: Mar 27 2018, 07:33 PM

Where did you buy the housings?

A filter shop in Klang, bukit tinggi. But i think any filter water shop should have something familiar. It's not far from giant. They sell mostly on water fountain and auto water dispenser

RM700 all in is a good price in my opinion. This looks like a 10" by 4.5" right? Will this be my best bet at the moment hestati?

This post has been edited by bluesky87: Mar 28 2018, 12:08 PM