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 Elmina by Sime Darby v2, Part of Selangor Vision City

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post Nov 16 2015, 01:43 PM

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Ariza launch price 599K.

Bumi 7% and staff discounts 5% applicable. Total 12% discount.

If subsale price is 699K then profit before tax and costs is about 170K. Not a bad return for a simple safe low risk investment.

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post Nov 16 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 16 2015, 01:59 PM)
is the bumi and staff discount combined or whichever higher applies?

low risk? at say 90% of 599k loan, one needs to service approx RM2.5k monthly installment?
assuming they do dispose within 6 months (including execution and handover the prop to new purchaser), that's still RM15k of interest cum installment to the banks.

you also need to factor in interest during construction, say 2.5% of the SPA price. say RM15k.
SPA fees (unless tumpang purchaser lawyer?). say RM8k.
insurance and deposit for utilities during VP. say RM1k.
quit rent, assessment. say RM500
Agent's fee (assume using agent). 2%. say RM14k.
RPGT deduction (provided did not use waiver and ada untung taxable). maybe circa 30% of RM200k = RM60k

so 170k untung - 15k - 15k - 8k - 1k- 0.5k -14k - 60k
56.5k.

so, still low risk or not?
don't look at the big figure.
prop investment is not that handsome a gain after all if you count all the cost involved.
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Your calculation is very prudent as you have factored a higher cost so actual profit is more.

Whichever way you look at it, 100K investment to return 56K in 2 years is better than FD of 4% p.a.
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post Jun 6 2016, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(acik_qdeen @ Jun 6 2016, 10:42 AM)
Yes, it will be launch before raya on 25th June. Price will start at RM809,888 before Bumi discount (7%). Can call the Sales Gallery 03-78312253 for more info.
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QUOTE(acik_qdeen @ Jun 6 2016, 10:44 AM)
20x60 only Corner unit left, other than that (Int & End) all sold out already.
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From this observation, the trend of the new property price is still going up.

What is the trend for completed properties?
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post Jul 20 2016, 02:04 PM

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Still 50% bumi quota?
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post Jul 24 2016, 11:23 PM

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SD is large and cash rich. Lowering price may hurt its pride.
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post Jul 27 2016, 10:43 AM

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High price at this location is good.

Makes my property affordable for sale.
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post Apr 7 2017, 09:51 AM

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DASH will boom this area.
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post Apr 7 2017, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(utellme @ Apr 7 2017, 11:43 AM)
DASH Exit or Entry point at Kampung Melayu Subang is not to bad for me, bcos it still good alternative route for to travel from EG to LDP or KL.  Anyway, distance from Elmina Interchange to Kampung Subang Melayu is still within 5 KM.
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Isn't there a plan to make interchange between GCE and DASH?
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post Apr 14 2017, 10:16 PM

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If you like the quiet serene far away location without city hassle yet within driving distance to your basic needs then this is a good opportunity. Price wise is premium as the density per area is low.
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post Apr 18 2017, 09:29 PM

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Still 50% non bumi quota?
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post Apr 19 2017, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(utellme @ Apr 18 2017, 10:56 PM)
Elmina city is 50% bumi and 50% non bumi quota. But Denai alam quata  still remains 30% for non bumi.
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I think most freehold areas in Selangor are 70% non bumi. I am not sure in Shah Alam like Setia Alam or Kota Kemuning. I think another 30% non bumi quota was Laman Glenmarie, please correct me if I am wrong.

I am trying to use this metric to predict feasibility as a profit seeking investor/flipper like myself to take risk.
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post Apr 19 2017, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(utellme @ Apr 19 2017, 03:56 PM)
What I understand is that all the glc link developer like Sime darby, I&P,  MRCB and others. Non bumi quota  is limited to 30-50% nothing more than that. after recent I&P and SP setia merger,  I guess the quota 30-50 % for non bumi likely apply too.  Later maybe Ec????? also.  in fact, Elmina 50% non bumi quota is consider very  good liao.  Last time,  USJ and Bandar Kinrara both non-bumi quata also 30%.
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Usually house prices will be lower than market value for lications with higher bumi quota. This is to allow higher participation.

So Elmina prices cheap?
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post Apr 19 2017, 10:17 PM

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More excitement when KWASA gets moving as this is the key to attract mass commercial centre.
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post Apr 20 2017, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(cheesaen @ Apr 20 2017, 09:59 AM)
By that time, Elmina, currently link to Denai Alam - will be interconnected with another huge development, and will have access to MRT
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In 10 years, not very long. Potential township that may follow CBJ path.

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post Apr 20 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(elmond @ Apr 20 2017, 11:27 AM)
it will be less than 5km after persiaran atmosfera extend to kwasa (jalan sungai buloh also)

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/gada...kwasa-damansara
The proposed development is accessible through Persiaran Atmosfera and will in the future be connected to the Guthrie highway.
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Persiaran Atmosfera is a shorter route but single carriage way.
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post Apr 20 2017, 01:26 PM

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There is a proposed connection between Kwasa and Persiaran Damansara Indah.

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Petaling Jaya City Council (PJCC) is desires of preparing a
draft Kwasa Damansara, Petaling Jaya Special Area Plan.
AND pursuant to Section 12A of the Town Country Planning Act 1976, PJCC shall take steps as
will in its opinion secure -
“(a) that publicity is given in its area to the draft special area plan that will be prepared,
its objectives and the purpose for its preparation, and matters that the local planning
authority proposes to include in the plan;
(b) that persons who may be expected to desire an opportunity of making representations
to the local planning authority in respect of those matters are made aware that they are
entitled to, and are given, an opportunity of doing so.”
THEREFORE IT IS HEREBY stated that the parties concern are invited and may examine
particulars which PJCC intends to include in the preparation of the Draft Kwasa Damansara,
Petaling Jaya Special Area Plan and accordingly may make representations to PJCC
in respect of those matters from 28th Mac 2017 until 28th April 2017 at Level 2,
Department of Development Planning, Petaling Jaya City Council, Jalan Yong Shook Lin, 46675
Petaling Jaya


http://www.mbpj.gov.my/sites/default/files/mbpj_bi.pdf

http://www.mbpj.gov.my/en/mbpj/media-centr...ent-preparation

http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...-mbpjs-plan-to/


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post Apr 22 2017, 01:45 PM

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Elmina is a large development so SDP should prioritse and make it a sustainable township. SDP must restore the past ability that developed SJ and USJ as they had top class elite employees.
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post Apr 22 2017, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 22 2017, 02:36 PM)
This may be an odd question, but what about dog ownership in Elmina? It's under Shah Alam, so you already have to deal with their stringent requirements. If the RA or neighbors want to be difficult, then die lor.

Not gonna buy a place then be told I have to give up my dog to live there.
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You have many reservations. I think a unit at BU, SS23, SS24 or D will suit you better. Just be prepared to pay 50% more for older houses.
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post Apr 22 2017, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 22 2017, 05:43 PM)
Haha, you made a good guess. I'm looking at SS26 actually, but the prices are crazy.
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You will not enjoy staying in Elmina as it is not matured like PJU.

This is the next Cyberjaya.
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post Apr 24 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 23 2017, 01:09 AM)
Funny you should compare it to Cyberjaya. Back in 2010 I stayed there for 4+ years. It was OK. While I did spend the majority of my uni/working life in PJ, I grew up in Kota Bharu, Kelantan. My first house was facing a rubber estate, and my second faced a paddy field. I'm OK with the whole "less developed location" thing. Elmina to me is probably better than Cyber will ever be. It's in the northern region and way closer to my usual haunts - BU, Damansara, SS2 - that Cyberjaya will ever be.

I guess you could say I fell in love with Elmina, and am trying to see the possible negatives of it. Less developed being one, but more importantly, quality of life for me and my dog. We've all heard stories of people fighting with neighbours over parking, dogs/cats, what not. I'm trying to lessen that possibility as much as I can. I don't want a home that stresses me out.

You seem to know quite a bit about the property market. Any advice or opinions?
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I follow this area since 2009. I am disappointed that such big GLC developer with big township was not assertive and proactive in ensuring MRT connectivity but rather waiting for things going to them like durian runtuh.

Elmina is not far from PJ but without connectivity the price isnt worth investing. When is DASH completion? Even completed, the toll price is painful.

QUOTE(Kelvin123@ @ Apr 23 2017, 10:44 PM)
Visited sales gallery 2 weeks ago and SA insisted that from Elmina, down Guthrie, you can go straight into DASH towards Damansara Perdana. Any comments?
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DASH was on the Denai Alam sales brochure and now Elmina?

Waiting for DASH durian runtuh.

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