Is it moving downtrend, as in long term downtrend that last few years?

I asking , not making statement. So I dunno wor, the sifus here see this chart & that chart, me dunno charts one

As in KLSE index and the worsening of ringgit. Yesterday's drop most stocks are effected, including export stocks.

So, I was asking the opinion of forumers if it's going to be long time bear mode like 2008 crash or just temporary.

Thank you for your explanation. Small ikan bilis like me need to consider when to cash out. Cannot afford the luxury of sitting on the stocks for 2 to 3 years waiting for it to up again

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Aug 8 2015, 12:48 PM

By the time you think2 and thinkX10, the price of the export stocks have gone up leaps and bounds, even during this bear market.

Google Lattitud, Liihen, VS, SAM, Magni. Even Poh Huat which went down a lot one time.
FLBHD also has gone up past 1 week.

The bluechip stocks, ie index stocks, up and down. WHen down, EPF and gang will push it up. Buy when down, sell when EPF push up,3% to 5% nett profit, intraday also can on good days.

By the time you quarter way thinking, people get 5%, 10% profit already. Havent count dividends yet.

Ok-lah, give one tip, Padini's dividend is at 7% at the current price of RM1.40. When market was dropping badly, it's lowest was only RM1.28, unlike others which can give heart attack.
Scores of stocks have dividends more than 4.2%, even the reits do that.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Sep 12 2015, 09:57 PM

In 30 years time, high likehood I would be dead . 30 years from now, we would have gone 2 to 3 economic slowdowns, many2 things will change.
Loonnggg before that 30 years I would switch change whatever the stocks if they fall, world trends change. They dont even have to be here in 10 years time. I would have made profits from them, more than what Tenaga, Pos or TM can bring.

At the moment, they(index stocks) need EPF to boost them up, export stocks dont. And these index stocks price have caused a lot of people to lose money from the dropping prices.
Tenaga has some negative sentiments against it due to connection to IMDB. I'm more concerned all these GLCs will sucked dry before the corrupters get caught. Seen it happen during Dr M's time.


Come to think of it, TNB may not be the same TNB in 30 years time. If Syed Mokhtar is no longer crony (ops he may very well be dead by then )
You cannot guarantee Pos and TM will still be the same monopoly they have now, especially if the political landscape changes.
Of course, if you want stability, go for it then. Just my principle not to touch certain crony stocks and politically linked companies. When the politician falls or a politicla party falls, so do the cronies. When Ah Jib fired the DPM, companies connected to the DPM were effected and the new DPM's group become the new shinning stars. That's how Msia is.

I dont have to guarantee to you and you dont have to guarantee to me. You want to invest in overseas stocks fine too, it's your money anyway. Most important which ones can make more money for retailers like us next few months/years.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Sep 13 2015, 12:09 AM

Dont make him start again , lol.
He replied ne with the 'can you guarantee 30 years from now " thingy
. And mentioned abt Tenaga, TM. POS as being here in 30 years. Then I 'scared' him abt how Tenaga stocks dropped when they announced going to buy 1MDB asset.

I reckon seeing the 100+ points drop scared the daylights out of him. It scared me too, at first, having been thru 1998 crisis.

The many uncertainties globally make him more scared. Then seeing the frequent swings in our KLSE make him pening.

Want returns more than FD but scared this, that, howlah to earn. We reply, he has more points to counter. Then we 'scare' him this one, that one also no guarantee, he go back square 1, ask 1st question.

1) HOmework and watching the markets as closely. Dont want to do homework, put in FD.
I consider myself a relative newbie in stock market. Studied the market 2 to 3 months before in. Still lost in index stock during the sharp drop recently but it didnt deter me. The other half of my portfolio is profiting.
It's not like 1998, kaboom drop to less than 1,000 pts, ppl sell house, car.

2) Cant have both at the same time, low risk low return lor. High risk, high return.

3) There's a saying : The only thing constant is change. In Msia, that is true, even with blue chips as it's very politically connected. Bailouts, corruption, etc can wipe out even the best GLC.
If in the working world, tommorow your boss can be announcing VSS, retrenchment. Or another earthquake, tsunami strike, there goes the company you invested in.
If tomm the PM change, scenario change. If tomm, the DPM gets fired, change another new DPM, change scenario some more.

The way you make it sound like you're a 70 yr old uncle who work as gomen servant whole life. 70 yr old uncle also better, cos they've been thru 1986 or 87 downturn, 1998 Asian Financial crisis,etc. Market crash, company closure, retrenchment, mergers, they have seen it all.

It is not our job to convince you, it is not our job to spoonfed you either. If after doing homework still cant find one that satisfy you, go other markets, go invest in that Con Ed, settle. Scared of this, scared of that, this cannot, that cannot, no need invest, settle.

Let us continue making our 5%,10%....

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Sep 13 2015, 08:50 PM

1) Because I do my own homework and do not keep asking or trolling people.
I said I'm relatively new in stock market thingy, I did my own homework to satisfy myself the stocks is worth to invest. Then choose the one that would work in this time and season. Plus trying to learn up the charts, waves, etc,etc.

2) Because we have already suggested a host of lists, which already spent days/weeks/months researching, the only thing we get 'this would not work, that cannot', aiyoo so fuzzy, like some big boss want to invest tens of millions.
You disagree with all our lists, keep saying the overseas one is good(which is annoying), , go invest in that lah.

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Sep 13 2015, 10:46 PM

Poh Huat price already up rather high, now 2.91. Shortly before this it was hovering at 2.60 to 2.65
Take note also their Vietnam factory had a fire around 2 weeks ago, will affect next 3 to 6 months profits as the goods/products got burnt. It's in the Bursa announcements.

But of course if you want another round of dividends....Sept 30 I think- they just gave dividends in July. Later, the free warrants(1:4), then share split, welcome welcome

This post has been edited by eaglehelang: Sep 14 2015, 09:29 PM