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Boon3
post Sep 1 2015, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Aug 30 2015, 09:53 PM)
the thread so boring ma...

i saw crude oil price shoot up...

then post abit oil counter news lo...

why no one buy hibiscs? lol
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yup...too boring..... tongue.gif
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post Sep 1 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Aug 13 2015, 01:39 PM)
good point. thanks abg boon for the pointer. will go study the reports and other board stocks you mentioned.
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How is your assessment of hevea after its results?
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post Sep 2 2015, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Sep 2 2015, 10:00 PM)
Seems like got chance abg Boon! EPS 15 (adjusted after split) x PE10 = RM1.50 for FY15 boleh ka?

But I never sapu using lorry lah. Scared later go Holland (or China) haha.
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I dunno what got what chance one laaaa......

just trying to poke you on your analysis on the company only laaaa......


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post Sep 3 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 3 2015, 01:28 PM)
ahh nvm, my mistake. i forgot to include the extra 3 zeros for the total equities =.=

but thanks, will take note on the formula
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Turning investor already ah?

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post Sep 3 2015, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Sep 2 2015, 10:00 PM)
Seems like got chance abg Boon! EPS 15 (adjusted after split) x PE10 = RM1.50 for FY15 boleh ka?

But I never sapu using lorry lah. Scared later go Holland (or China) haha.
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I saw ........................... tongue.gif



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post Sep 4 2015, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 4 2015, 01:01 AM)
Hi guys, noob newbie here

I just registered CDS acc, according to some sifus this is not the right time to start, but I just do it for the sake of learning experience and if lucky maybe gain some

What the recomended minimum amount I should start with ? smile.gif 1.1k should be ok ? Maybe 500 for 2 stock each time, another 100 spare tongue.gif
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Luck?
Better don't...... tongue.gif

Practice for two years first......
That's me advice la..... tongue.gif



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post Sep 4 2015, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 4 2015, 06:01 AM)
2 years ? Like too long biggrin.gif

Seriously how much is reasonable smile.gif
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You can do the other way....
play with real money.... tongue.gif

only difference is...
your tuition fees is paid with real money....
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post Sep 4 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(kevraul @ Sep 4 2015, 08:39 AM)
i think to learn, you must be willing to get burnt a bit
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Never agree with that statement....

it's foolish.... tongue.gif



anyway... it's just my poison... no one has to agree. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 4 2015, 01:01 AM)
Hi guys, noob newbie here

I just registered CDS acc, according to some sifus this is not the right time to start, but I just do it for the sake of learning experience and if lucky maybe gain some

What the recomended minimum amount I should start with ? smile.gif 1.1k should be ok ? Maybe 500 for 2 stock each time, another 100 spare tongue.gif
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Don't siimply listen to so called sifus...

Learn it yourself...

The net is out there....


for example...

How to make more money?
I need to be a better trader...

How to be a better trader?
Must follow better tips.

If you agree with the above ...
then the market is not for you.... sweat.gif



Right time...
Basically there is 3 types of market.....
Do you know these 3 types?


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post Sep 4 2015, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 4 2015, 08:51 AM)
Eerrr dunno...I only know got fundamental, blue chip for dividend, Penny stock for small company
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well how much do you know about trading itself? wink.gif
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post Sep 4 2015, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 4 2015, 09:07 AM)
Eerr just created acc first, 10.60 only...let remiser teach the basic, then baru learn about market, etc2 sweat.gif
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tell you what....


first ..... you go learn about using google.



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serious..... everything you need to learn is out there.....in the net....

so learn to google well...

and read and read and read......



ps: it's ok if if you want to pay for tuition but if there is an option to learn FREE...why not? tongue.gif
ps: some tuition fees is EXTREMELY DEADLY.... it can wipe out more money than you think you could afford to lose..... sweat.gif sweat.gif



all the best la
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post Sep 4 2015, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 4 2015, 09:28 AM)
Yeah, my friend pay 5k for 3 days class also kelong 15k biggrin.gif

Might as well learn from web biggrin.gif or you want to be my sifus teach basic things biggrin.gif
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Huh?
You know Star Wars?
Luke's sifu?
Mati right...
Kung fu movies....
All the sifu do what?
Mati katak, yes? tongue.gif

Let others be the siput laaaaaaaa......


Thing about losses....

Some can afford big losses...
But some...cannot manage their losses...
Until they need to borrow....
and in extreme cases....
one might end up with a lifetime of debts....

And how does one handle losses?
Some curse.....everything....
but after a few beers for the night.....
they forget all about the losses in the morning....

Some.....go into deep depression from the losses they suffer...
and so on......

End story?
Isn't it better to avoid silly stuff like losses while learning?
Why pay to lose when you can avoid it?
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post Sep 5 2015, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Sep 4 2015, 11:53 PM)
there is the third type: people who earn money like boon whistling.gif

lai lai want tipsy?

high risk tips:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...r-lrt-3-project
stock in focus: GKENT, MRCB

medium risk tips:
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...m-japan-in-fy15
stock in focus: Hevea

low risk tips:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/04/...N0R500520150904
stock in focus: Gtronic, SAM, VItrox, Inari

*not responsible for any loses for the above advise unsure.gif

I do only own hevea currently
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another hevea kaki?

must be making big money like cooldownguy86
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post Sep 5 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Sep 5 2015, 12:14 AM)
the way i see it, your frontken lebih sexy brows.gif

from a decent clothing being clothed with fur sweater with dawn jacket but now kena strip till nalf naked  drool.gif
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the danger is anchoring your reasoning based on how high the stock has traded recently..... sweat.gif

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yes, on a short, short term basis, I am sure some traders would FEEL that 15 sen is a support for the stock and that the stock could be due for a rebound.....

it's not unreasonable thinking....

however... from my point of view....

when I look at the current stock decline...
it's like CHINESE WATER TORTURE....
cos there was no sharp decline....
but instead constant droppings....
such stock declines....
tend to create a scenario where there's plenty of stale bulls left holding on to the stock....
hence any brief rebound could be countered by selling.....

my poison la....
you don't have to agree.... tongue.gif

and if you extend to the larger frame....

user posted image

in my opinion...
THE support for the stock was 18/19 sen region....
that's where the stock out from before it began it's fantastic up movement in April...
as much...
when I consider where Frontken is trading right now....
I won't be comfortable trading it....


however....
please remember...
I am just saying "I won't be comfortable trading it..."
and I am not saying no chance.... tongue.gif
cos in stock market anything can happen...
especially with goreng stocks...


again...
just my poison...... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 5 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(MohdPuskas @ Sep 4 2015, 08:51 AM)
Eerrr dunno...I only know got fundamental, blue chip for dividend, Penny stock for small company
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...... you see playing stocks is .... errr.... like F1 racing..... tongue.gif


just imagine....
you are in the game ....
where you are to make money betting/investing ..... in F1 races....
where the cars represent stocks....
car owners represent stock/company owners...
races represents trading days...
F1 drivers represents CEOs.....
etc etc....

so think for a moment....
how to bet on the race winner?
or the race team winners?

for betting race winner....
simply buta hantam a car.... cannot win one, right?
it becomes a game of chance... ye?

so what do you think you need to know?
the car....
the car current form...
the driver...
etc etc ....
yes? (this is why knowing fundamentals is important even when you trade)


and then you need to know the race condition (ie market condition).....
what is race condition?
the weather....
is it brutally hot weather?
is it a rain soaked track?
etc etc....

and this is where it's important...
cos the car with the best engine (ie fastest car) might not win.....
it all boils down to the car ability to handle in the wet...
and of course... the driver is just as important...


and this is where it's the same in trading....
you need to know the market condition...
ie... what kind of market you are trading in.....
before you adjust your trading strategy to adept to the market important....
this is important...
and it takes years to understand this.....

anyway....
as before...
this is just my poison laaaa....
you don't need to agree with me.... tongue.gif
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post Sep 5 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Sep 5 2015, 10:14 AM)
SAM boleh pakai ka. they say want to hit 1bil revenue since years ago but past few years still at 500k mark.
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SAM ah?

heeeeheeee...... tongue.gif
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post Sep 5 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Sep 5 2015, 11:56 AM)
ah boon, fundamentally this stock good good potential. currently they can ride on good electronics sales in taiwan, while OnG is expected to recover in early 2016.

pinky, gark, hehe all no comment ka? this stock always in top volume wor
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Aiyooo...
My comments based on what's shown on the charts.


Fundamentally good good potential?
Not sure but all I remember was the stock reported a extremely poor set of result.
Do you know why? ( sorry did not read it myself)



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QUOTE(Tripod @ Sep 5 2015, 01:12 PM)
spring...why gkent high risk?
i'm also holding gkent  sad.gif
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Why did you buy GKent in the first place?
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post Sep 5 2015, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Sep 5 2015, 03:42 PM)
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losing in the making, but looks like cash flow still healthy
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Ah.... so cash improved ... but earnings was poor.
solid balance sheet poor performance....

so by right... it's about about fifty/fifty .... won't this be a better descripption/assessment of the stock at this moment?

now for this market conditions...
how would you describe it?

bearish?
risky?
tough?


yes?

if the answer is yes...... why bother to look at a fifty/fifty stock?

isn't there so many other fishes in the water?
why this one?

..... and then comes the stock chart.....

how would rate the chances trading a stock with such a chart?
good chance?
sexy?


now before any shallow minded readers WITH vested interest in this stock...

do realize this...

I'm not saying Frontken no chance...
I'm not saying Frontken will mati katak...

all I am doing is valuating the risks involved in trading this stock at this moment.....

the stock is seriously in a downtrend... a chinese water torture downtrend.....
why rush to be in this stock?
is there any REAL/IMMEDIATE catalyst to dive into this stock at this moment now?
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these are the issues that needs to be considered.....



anyway...
as usual.......
my poison la........
you don't have to agree and you don't have to take my poison..... icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 5 2015, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Sep 5 2015, 04:13 PM)
are they that many living fishes in the water? so many company report a good quarter but yet can't go up. unless what you meant is keeping cash at this moment is better...
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eh?
Like which one? tongue.gif

Like I said...
choose your own poison laaaaaa......

Ask yourself...

1, You wanna stay cash?
2. You wanna be in a stock which is CURRENTLT reporting good earnings growth?
3. You wanna be in a stock which has so called potential but isn't doing well currently?
4. You wanna be in a stock which is doing poorly and has clouded potential?



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