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 Traders Kopitiam! V8

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post Oct 21 2015, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 21 2015, 11:05 AM)
I dunno all these stuff blush.gif

I only know analyse financials

I still prefer Ta Ann over WTK

But my friend hard selling WTK hmm.gif
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Peat soil cost more $$$ to plant (stripping, drainage), cost more to maintain (soil conditioning & fertilizer use), damaging to environment (due to massive green house gas release) and have lower palm oil yield. Also CPO from peat soil plantation is selling below actual price due to RSPO ban. Prominent companies like Wilmar, Nestle, Unilever will not buy oils from peat soil plantations. Environmental friendly fund manager wont touch it either..

So Higher fixed cost, higher variable cost & lower revenue = less margin compared to other planters

Add in less support from institutional... (especially foreign).. wink.gif

P.s. The haze you are smelling now is due to peat soil fire in Kalimantan.. brows.gif

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post Oct 21 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 21 2015, 11:24 AM)
What's your opinion of KMLoong?

Any idea where to search for average tree age apart from analyst reports? I think not all comp annual reports n website give that info.

Was checking out First Resources = super rock solid in comparison to Golden Agri.
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Donno about Km loong.. have to see average tree age, land reserve and location. tongue.gif

Tree age is usually reported in the Annual Report.. not on Q reports.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 21 2015, 11:27 AM)
omai cry.gif
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But if high CPO price.. everyone enjoi.. even lower margin ones.. brows.gif

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post Oct 21 2015, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 21 2015, 11:24 AM)
What's your opinion of KMLoong?

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KM Loong

Johor - 1,093 Ha
Sarawak - 10,471 Ha (Plantable only 6,300 Ha, newest venture)
Sabah - 11,948 Ha

Total Planted
Mature - 13,581 Ha
Immature - 1,320 Ha
Unplanted - 461 Ha

Yield : 22.49 tpha - Fair Yield

Sabah - CPO Mill - 105 MT FFB/hr
Johor - CPO Mill - 100 MT FFB/hr
Mills OER - 22.4% - Fair OER

Tree Age
Immature : 13%
Mature : 21%
Aging : 66%

Notes :
No future growth due to lack of plantable reserve land
No land to plant means low capex hence high free cash flow
Low immature tress, future growth will be low
Once Sarawak plantation comes to maturity will lower the yield and OER

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post Oct 21 2015, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(Suicidal Guy @ Oct 21 2015, 12:39 PM)
How about bumitama? Last time someone posted a comparison with first resources and conclusion was bumitama is good too..
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Yes bumitama is good too.. but the PE ratio is higher.. laugh.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2015, 12:45 PM)
USD is not plunging....again.

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USD up.. CPO price up too... heheheheheheheh
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Oct 21 2015, 12:50 PM)
watcando?poorfagonlybuylocalstock  tongue.gif
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Who say so.. your HK stock dun count ah? tongue.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2015, 12:52 PM)
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You seducing the wrong fella.

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Ceh.. i know you dun like palm oil stock.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 12:54 PM

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Hmm sushi twins got some action today... hmm.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 21 2015, 01:16 PM)
Padini yield gooding, quite defensive earnings

TaAnn? Its the timber business that attracts me to it. CPO + timber...2 good resources recurring income thumbup.gif
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Last I heard... raw timber and veneer is losing money one.. sweat.gif

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post Oct 21 2015, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Oct 21 2015, 01:29 PM)
I thought shop like uniqlo and others is threatening padini.

But looking back the financial performance, seems still doing good, maybe I overlook the competition issue few years back. Quite undervalued at current price if performance sustained hmm.gif

I somehow anti Timber business one  tongue.gif  will never ever own a timber stock for medium/long term, unless for short term trading la. tongue.gif Maybe I grow up in sabah, which used to be full of timber tycoon  nod.gif
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Sandakan used to be called millionaire's town...

Now? rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 21 2015, 02:03 PM)
Timber is denominated in USD whistling.gif
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Hehe you hoping to get on the USD freight train.. tongue.gif

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post Oct 21 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 21 2015, 02:16 PM)
USD kuat -TaAnn timber wins
CPO price kuat - TaAnn palm oil wins

Tell me, how not to love this stock? 5% divvy yield some more. EPF accumulating brows.gif
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You know who is the major shareholder or not? Sapawi... whistling.gif
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post Oct 21 2015, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2015, 04:26 PM)
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Today only you notice meh?

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Yesterday and day before got see.. one of sushi up.. but today both up. laugh.gif

USD story again? tongue.gif

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post Oct 21 2015, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2015, 04:47 PM)
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You need to develop a more solid buying strategy....

If I was interested.....
for this one.....
just say only la.....
I would probably enter around __________ ?

what would have been your answer?

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Me?

I will consider if back to 2.50... rclxms.gif
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post Oct 22 2015, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 21 2015, 06:32 PM)
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No wonder ayam lari lor.... tongue.gif

Errr....

Heheeeeeeeeehee ......time to goreng sikit...: P

So say...
If you have the special powers...
To turn back time...
To allow you to buy....
Would you buy at ....say 3.05?
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Tempting.. recent support of 3.05 but... I would have seek more safety tongue.gif
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post Oct 22 2015, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:20 AM)
gark ada buy superman?

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No wor... still researching.. hmm.gif

Financial not showing much improvement..

Lompat today... rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 22 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 22 2015, 09:33 AM)
To gauge your fishing/trading skills. Based on the chart I think u hantam/traded 2 times. biggrin.gif

Coz u always emphasize u r a fussy trader who always does less, but your less is very impactful. So newb like me must learn from a great sifu like abang boon lo on trading like a boss. biggrin.gif

Curious to know the connection/correlation between sushi 1 and sushi 2.
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Mother and son lah.. rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 22 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 22 2015, 09:09 AM)
Nice sushi abang boon! Lemme guess, your average price u entered was about 1.10 right? biggrin.gif

Sushi kedua?
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Give you hint.. he entered at A LOT LESS than RM 1.10.. whistling.gif

For first round at least.. laugh.gif

That one was a multi bagger.. brows.gif

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post Oct 22 2015, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:41 AM)
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Learn to trade... learn to trade.

Trading is not about buying at supports hor.....

With your superior fundamentals kung fu....
all you need is to develop some simple trading basics....
and you will be sky, earth no defeat.

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Meh.. not really trading kind.. more like hold forever kind... hehe

Good now can learn to trade from Ah Boon.. wub.gif rclxms.gif

Lesson 1 : Must learn ... not to .. catch .. falling.. knifes.. sweat.gif

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