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lynetnonyma
post Oct 7 2015, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 7 2015, 05:06 PM)
Errr..... Volume actions is more important than anything.... but then it depends on how and what kind of time frame you are trading.....

Some traders wants to react with every singe price action that they see in the chart....
They think the best is to try to profit from every spike and every down turn....
It's possible...
but for me...
ie... judging on MY OWN standard and capability la....
I cannot.....

I cannot sit still starring at the chart 10 hours a day....
I tried I cannot....
and it exposes myself to making constant decisions all the time....
this is so damn difficult.....
I could get it to maybe 45% correct on a trail period of 14 months...
but considering all factors....
this is not something I desire....
I do not want to be slave to the market.... blah, blah... bah..... tongue.gif

see?
it's like what I was saying...
know ownself first....
not everyone can be that someone....
it's not like that one....

on indicators....
every single indicator that is out there....
it's all based on the past data/factors....
think about that...
practice that long enough....
and you will see what I am trying to see....
it's not reliable...
sometimes...
it may appear to work like a charm....
but many times .... it won't...
and those times when it doesn't work...
these are the times which will hurt one badly............
so bad.... that it will take a long time to recover....

err.... you do know that you are trying to ask me to write a many moons and many cows stories.....
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next week la....
choose a stock....
any stock....
and we do a live chat.....
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you will see my limitations one....
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Much thanks for sharing. So you are definitely not a day trader type. Not really a thrill seeker type. Prefer to be calm and rational about your trades. Not concerned about the tick tick tick on an hourly or daily basis. As long as it eventually tick tick ticks to your target. But you're not a long term investor either. What would your average holding time be? 3-6 months? Or you keep going till your target is met?

The indicators only give a clue or hint as to what MAY happen. Isn't it like that for everything? When things going up, analyst come and say tomorrow also MAY up and vise versa. When they wrong, they just change their view the next day. No one can predict the future. Its all best guesses only. Its all conditional basis.

Not asking for many moon and cow stories. I'm interested to hear what works for you. A similar method may work for me or others here too. Sometimes we may not know what methods are out there till we hear it from someone else.

We all learn from others in one way or another. Even if read books or use google , you are learning from others. We all can also learn not only from other's success, but also other's failures. What not to do is just as important as what to do.

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post Oct 7 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 7 2015, 05:12 PM)
Whatever opinion/remarks/live chat/moons and cows stories you have.... there is always something for us to learn, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced we are.

So keep up the good work in being frank and sharing your honest 2 -3 cents. biggrin.gif
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Please.... Boon3 always give 3 sen opinion, not 2. It is not subject to exchange rate fluctuation...

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post Oct 7 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 7 2015, 05:13 PM)
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On 29 Sep KLCI low was 1595.22.
Today? KLCI close how much?

So you can probably might want to say the market is hot hot......  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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and this is where you can get the disconnect....
when you weigh market 'fundamentals' vs the market...... tongue.gif
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When it was 15xx, they said it may go down to 14xx? Now at 16xx, will they say it will reach 17xx? Maybe before budget so it can be included in how well everything is going?

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post Oct 7 2015, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 7 2015, 10:38 PM)
Haha this ah boon evaded your questions la lynetnonyma. But, he did give u a nice compliment and two hints.

I believe his true intention is more of directing u to the sea. Give some hints/opinion from time to time on how to fish to survive. Let u discover for your self the "way" that works best for u in fishing. As he mentioned many times, know yourself n what fishing techniques u r really good in.

Don't be a follower. Be a Do'er.

The force is strong in our Jedi Master...
But nvm, I prefer the Dark side of the Force muahaha
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Boon3 likes tai-chee. That's why he got patience in stock market. I joke and disturb him also he very steady....

Yes, he won't give you the fish. He won't even teach you to fish. But as you said, he'll only point you to where you may find the fish.

Will continue to keep an eye on this fishy fellow...

lynetnonyma
post Oct 22 2015, 04:42 PM

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Why Boon3 never ask to buy BRAHIMS yesterday?

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post Oct 22 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 04:45 PM)
This is why laaaaaa
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Just keeping you occupied until gark come back to give tips....

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post Oct 22 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 04:58 PM)
My nail got chipped a little....  rolleyes.gif
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Why you all talk in riddles... not smart enough to understand....

I ask see got luck or not....

Generally, do you pick stocks based on company first then see charts, or look through charts then see about the company? I trying to find a way to narrow down.

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post Oct 22 2015, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Tctf @ Oct 22 2015, 05:37 PM)
There is no short cut for success..
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Wasn't asking for a shortcut, but thank you for sharing your insight...

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post Oct 22 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 22 2015, 09:54 PM)
Both methods got its plus and minus...

as you know....
Charts can and are quite often 'made'.....
So if you buy based on the chart or as you say, use chart as the initial stock screener...
then your trading play is based on what the market sharks want you to play.
Pure chartist always swear that the charts is their holy grail.....

Using companies as the screener....
well, you trade based on your knowledge/reasoning on how the stock should do in the future......
some say you are more in control...
cause you are trading based on what you know.....
but there are risks also...
sometimes we can make the wrong analysis.....

Which is better?
which is the better route?
I can't answer for you....
what works for me might not work for you....
Perhaps testing it extensively paper trading might help you discover you....
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Yeah, there is no easy answer as all sorts of methods can work or fail. It all seems to be best guess work.
Using charts and looking at previous pattern, you're making best guess what may happen next.
With company data also you're making best guess projection of what may happen in the future. After all things for the company or world events etc could change things very quickly.

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post Oct 23 2015, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 23 2015, 01:22 PM)
pssst: use local stock
See back Home boi chart I posted the other day....
Would you buy?
If so, at what price?
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Can I try?
Would have been good to get in around 1.05-1.06?
Now, maybe around 1.16-1.18 can get?
But not sure if must wait till pass 1.20-1.22 first.
Hopeful / possible to reach 1.29?

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post Oct 23 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 23 2015, 02:49 PM)
Zero markah.....

Cos I am asking about another stock. tongue.gif
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Heheh... Titan got sent to the corner....
I gave teacher apple today, so be kind when mark my paper...

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post Oct 23 2015, 02:58 PM

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That day I browsing stocks, I noticed ULICORP.
I think it was mentioned here sometime early last yer. I think by MrLoo. Wasn't taken seriously then.
It was around RM1 then, now its over RM4. Don't know reason for such increase. Would have been good to get a little then. Hopefully MrLoo benefitted.

Always easy to look back and find when would have been a good time to get in. But not so easy to know at that time was the right time...

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post Oct 29 2015, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 28 2015, 03:53 PM)
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Certainly very boring.

I can understand your opinion of the stock.  smile.gif
Mark it down and then compare your comments in the future.

This is what I will do when I paper trader.
Besides entering my 'fake' entries, I also mark down why.
Then I compare....
and I observe my thinking.....

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So when you posted the chart a few days ago and asked about it, what was your thinking? That it was on the high side but doesn't mean it won't go higher? Did you think it was going to breakout further? Or were you thinking it was too high and would be going lower which it has done past couple of days?

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post Oct 29 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 29 2015, 12:13 PM)
It depends.

If I was being an aggressive trader...
I would look closely on the trading activity.
Maybe wait for the price to hit 121 before going in.

If I was conservative....
I would wait for the stock to consolidate (like what it is doing now)....
And if price holds till end of the day....
Maybe I might consider grabbing some....

It all depends la......

And most important, I need to have confidence that the stock should trade higher or not.
Pssst. It is tedious to just post what I  thinking.
It's not me that is important.....
It is for you to practise and sharpen your paper trades...

If it gets to boring....
I better go shoot some lizards...

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I thought at 1.18 it would go up since QR coming out soon and supposed to be good based on USD factor? But went down instead. But don't know if because of overall market, or people know QR not so good, or its purposely being pushed down before QR....


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