dats becoz u dont wanna job.u filthy rich boy.
eh,wut it hink is IT can merge with other courses la.
exemple:
MBBS with minor basic IT.
me,taking mechanical,have to study IT also.VISUAL BASIC.but,its simple.rite?

Very simple answer ...

High supply ,Low demand ....

i dont think IT is about visual basic.. IT not equal to programming

IT is about how to use, convert, manipuate a data to useful info to help in our life..

from what i understood from my degree study in IT, IT is mainly about programming,the algorithm u think to solve ur problem.

nothin else rather than that.

That's a common misconception actually. IT is not about programming, but programming is a core requirement of IT.

May I ask what is the name of the IT degree that you did, and how the outline is like?

IT is the science of using technologies to help companies develop competitive advantage. Use any technologies that adds value to business.
Programming is just one of the ways people do it.

walau....knowing just visual basic cant take u to any IT job.if like this, i think my little brother 11 years old can worl liao....

This post has been edited by edwuave: Nov 4 2006, 11:15 PM

heh, the fellow u're replying to probly thinks that a mechanical engineer can do the job of an electrical enginner as well, from the logic of his statement

More like, there's too many places offering bastardized IT courses which r completely hopeless.

I don't think this is appropriate. I'm a Computer Sc. grad doing engineering work. How do you explain that? It is what your attitude and your passion to continue learning after university days.

Actually I think most people graduated from IT background do not have the passion for it and they even memorize the coding (this I know is true, bcoz I have a lot of fren doing so). So during the interview session, they cannot demand much from their future employer as they lack of knowledge. I was able to negotiate my salary the interviewer and the guy even decided to hire me with a few hundreds off budget. Besides that, I think most people think since the competition is tough, they are willingly to reduce their salary expectation....same like discount during sales, just to get a job. For me, I think the most appropriate is to set a realistic salary expectation (pls do not reduce just becoz u c others doing so), and really study on what you should know

This post has been edited by jasontoh: Nov 5 2006, 01:55 AM

is it workers blue collar, instead of white collar?

http://www.thetechzone.com/?m=show&id=642

IT - Information Technology

The fusion of how one can use technology to harness the power of information which may benefit a company/organization either financially or in position.

IT is not all about programming, there is networking, support, sales, planning, so many thing to do with IT.

But because too many university offer IT course, and too many people took it, so end up problem like this.

basicly i think because most people only dominating the Windows Part of IT world. True there`s networking but i think most of my friend taking IT only well knew much mostly Windows Stuff. and dat`s it.

The lack of embracement in Unix and Linux OS definitely give a problem here.
I have a friend of mine making opengl program for the X windows System. The only reason he is hired because he`s the only one in the candidates that can use Unix huhu.

but nowadays, the number of student study IT course is keep decreasing from year to year. in 5 year time, my college(TARC) computer science advance diploma student drop from 500++ until 14 now... U see the how big the decreasing....

maybe, biotechnology is the next big thing already.

i thought tmnut and other other isp need alot of network engineers to increase and manage their bandwidth?
Somemore, I thought celcom & maxis need alot of java programmers/developers to provide their 3G services? What about nokia,motorola...?
Anyone considers research? like artificial intelligence, virtual reality and stuff like that?
Or Ethical Hacking? I heard that hacking, ethically, earns someone alot of $$?
Anyway, this is just my thought, or rather dreams, as i know that M'sia is way too far behind in these fields. Perhaps in M'sian context, application of software and maitenence is the best an I.T grad can do. I maybe wrong.

Abc2005,

What is stopping you from learning anything?? As long as you have access to Internet, you can learn anything if you want to?? Most of the MIT courses and lectures are online and freely accessible .

Dreamer

Most of the actual implementation and development work's outsourced. Most organizations only employ ppl for the maintenance work, and that's only for the core business areas too. Even then, a lot of the maintenance work is outsourced as well whenever its possible for the purpose of cost cutting internally.

To be honest, it doesnt matter which area you go into. There's always niche areas within each area, and all you need to do is to be able to find that niche, then you're mainly set.