depends on the luck and the time as well not necessarily cert ....

Well,

Sometimes i think Information Technology is misused in a lot of occassions. First of all, not all computing graduate are IT graduate (Well, I am). You can have software engineers, data, hardware architecture graduate, computer science graduate, business computing graduate, information system graduate, information management graudate, technology management graduate and even games and multimedia graduate or networking graduate.

If you don't have a major in your IT study, you have to be good in 3 things, 1) basic computing (those that almost every single computer literate will know) such as basic troubleshooting and housekeeping skills. 2) technical skills, in IT, that means intermediate programming, information system studies and database studies. 3) ENGLISH. If you can't even communicate with English, how people are gonna trust you with the life and soul they put in their system?

Oh maybe there is 4) The passion. If you study IT just because you think it's easy to graduate and it's a job-guaranteed course, you are outta here.

If you do have a major, ( maybe in software, hardware, database, management, Information System or even maths), you will have to really flourish in your major. There's nothing wrong at first that the job you get is not really what you learn, but after some time, when you got experience, you are good to go.

Hmm, will it be like all jobs sucks but just that IT job people get to moan about on forum frequently?

Malaysia is very much a developing country, whats more many of our leaders also shown us that their brains are still developing as well. Therefore, many company do not really utilize the latest IT technology in their business. It is a huge difference working in a MNC IT company, big MNC, small MNC and a local company.

In IT there is no such thing and learn one thing do forever, new things always pop up, and you have to constantly crack your head to solve the problem, and this is not always appreciated by your top management as you take time to do research and handle the problem. Thats where IT people gets frustrated.

Furthermore, local employer are exploiting IT technical workforce, especially exploiting the freshie as the do not know much about employment.

Exploiting as in:
- very low pay, some IT worker even getting less pay then a popular bookstorekeeper
- extremely unreasonable working hour(weekends, midnight, dawn, 7-11, 24-7)
- unreasonable job scope or dateline(this seem to be a global problem)

Come to think of it IT support line is like being a doctor (surgeon or ER doctors). They are on call 24x7 and can be called into action during emergency. Long working hours when lots of demand/cases. Stakes or responsibilities are high...life or millions of dollars at stake. High expertise also is required to diagnose sickness/problems. High pressure.

Do IT people get paid as good as doctors ? Most don't but, there are a few lucky/brilliant ones actually do.

You're probably right.. There are people with even worser jobs out there actually.. If the "moaning" goes on and on, these IT professionals may just appear to be a bunch of "self-centred" people.. But when you do go down to the nitty gritty details, reality bites really hard for most IT professionals in Msia too.. Some are so underpaid, some are overly stressed to meeting tight deadlines and providing effective + immediate solutions, some are way too involved at work (usually without much choice) that they lose their social lives, some go unappreciated after putting so much of toil and efforts into their work, and some are required to do work beyond their proper jobs scopes..

Hahaha.. This is a really good one..

i dont agree with the thread,for me IT jobs is great in malaysia,only if you have the skill and work for a right company.you'll be paid well when you have the skill.

yeah. damn right.

how many people actually buy books to improve?

compare the # of those who do and the # of those who don't.

Gonna second you on this

yup. you can learn 1 thing and insist on keep on doing it and never learn.

in the end you'll lose your job to either
a) some new kid on the block that does your stuff + something else or does it better or lower salary or all of them and whatever else that makes them better

b) you're skills are not moving along with the company and technology.

dont need to buy book, the wonderful world of internet have alot of *ahem* version to offer.

you can find ebooks on every possible subject and field in IT, just need to look for yourself.

ebooks... easy in terms of c&p
physical books... give u the missing feel
personally prefer in combination

why IT jobs sux in malaysia...
because majority here are malaysian?

Really true. Some of my coursemate dont know how to check their IP although they are computer science student especially girl. ( Sorry , i just tell the truth)

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Wow, I did not notice this thread until today! To be honest, it sucks because most companies want to cut costs on IT and prefer to focus their revenue in other business areas. This is why you see most companies, whether big or small, outsourced their IT services to vendors where they take employees who can work for a lesser salary and can be pushed around like a dummy. Unless this mentality is not changed, IT jobs will continue to be less valued and under-appreciated.

when system slow or hang.. don't complain.. no r & d at all.. outsource find pratical student deliver.. 5 years changed new system again.. hehe not in malaysia..

accounting good