Would like to inquire for sinking fund usage do the committee require AGM or EGM approval to use the funds can't find it in th act. It says to be used for certain items only.
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Strata act 757
Strata act 757
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Aug 1 2015, 09:02 AM
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Would like to inquire for sinking fund usage do the committee require AGM or EGM approval to use the funds can't find it in th act. It says to be used for certain items only.
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Mar 4 2016, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(rwmgmc @ Mar 2 2016, 09:23 PM) I appreciate the comments. Just look up strata tribunal procedures. It's on the national gazette as ancillary documents for the 757I have written to the Committee many times to point out irregularities. The chairman declared that he will not reply to letters he deems unsuitable. The Committee meets every 2 months and does publish minutes. The last minutes stated : "we should not be side-lined, remote controlled, lose focus, destabilised or disillusioned from persons who are hell bent on just sending in long emails/communications forms which are somewhat deemed a nuisance. When these type of letters are looked into, on many points, laws etc have been misinterpreted & twisted, things taken out of context to suit themselves .... .... most committee members feel that if someone has nothing meaningful to say or can't help, they should refrain from sending in such letters, this comes across as "sour grapes" and deemed time wasting verging on harassment. We should not be brain washed by others who have not got the facts right and their only agenda is to create dis harmony." This is wrong. Letters sent have been factual, quoted SMA 2013 (Act 757) when needed. They have also been civil. And they have all been ignored. These minutes were put up on the condo noticeboards. The committee seems not to appreciate anyone referring to procedural errors or asking for details of maintenance contracts, disclosure of tender amount received, insurance provisions. I guess most owners will be frightened off. Thank you The tribunal is open for business. They are in putrajaya. File there only cost rm100 to file Once u do that should help with your problem From there the committee will recognise u |
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Mar 6 2016, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(rwmgmc @ Mar 5 2016, 10:13 PM) Many thanks. I will make a claim to the Tribunal. First and foremost I have no legal training and have no experience at the tribunal as such my opinions may not proper and I will not be responsible for themMost of the ignored letters are 3 months old. As I posted, no replies. What do you think about notifying the Committee of the intent to make a claim to the Tribunal out of fair play and civility, and to allow for any change of mind on replies ? However, I don't want to appear to be making a threat along the lines of "you haven't replied, if you don't reply I'll go to the Tribunal." Any thoughts ? Thanks. I would suggest if u can to talk to a lit lawyer to get some idea for best results. The tribunal from a layman perspective is some ways similar to a standard litt case in a court of law. it has statement of claim defense, discoveries and etc. As such treat as like it's almost like court of law. You can apply for declaration that meeting invalid if clauses are not follow with reference to the act for example. Keep your posted letters. It should be part of your statement of claim. Ie. I posted my said letter dated with date to the management office and till this date no response. Do for all. On replying. It would be up to u. Tell them about it loses the element of surprise if u have not send a letter of demand. It may be good to phrase a letter of demand with a further action if it's not replied. Why tell them tribunal. Because if it's further action u may have option of cob, court of law or tribunal. Nicer to have more bullets in the chamber. Further it keeps them guessing which route you are taking. Also I would recommend paying rm50 send in a request for accounts and all the documents you are entitled to in the act. Read up the main part of 757 it details there. If they don't reply to u then more ammo for your statement of claim. Their statement of not entertaining stupid request can work in your favour in the tribunal. You want to establish why they don't reply and you can plead on this why there is no response. Keep the minutes or request a copy for it. If no response do the cob route for this This post has been edited by sam sam: Mar 6 2016, 06:32 AM |
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Mar 10 2016, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 10 2016, 12:48 PM) Owner has no right to attend the monthly JMB/MC meeting, but for transparent purpose, it is good to have. New rules require notice of meeting to be place on the condominium notice board and for a of minimum 7 daysSo it depends on MC decision to allow or not. MC meeting is about MC internal issue, there is no need to publish the meeting date except a proper meeting minutes recorded. Again, for transparent issue, nothing to hide, good to put up notice. Last time, we (I involved in MC time) allow owners to attend monthly meeting and allow any issues being raised after the formal issue of the meeting being settled first, aka at the last session of the meeting. How or whether voices being heard depended how elected MC members react to it. If the MC members always refuse to hear majority voice, then vote them down is the solution, as simple as that. After that 21 days minutes have to be on notice board |
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QUOTE(rwmgmc @ Mar 10 2016, 11:15 PM) Many thanks Sam Sam for the advice on "letters." Dont forget to send them by either registered, ar mail or certificate of posting as proof u send themI'll draft a reply to give the MC 14 days to respond to my letters. I'll let them know that further action will be taken but I will not say what action. |
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ Apr 9 2016, 05:37 PM) Can anyone confirm if Management Office under MC can disconnect water (removing the water meter) from unit who has default on paying Maintenance fees? The MC can disconnect the water whether this is in accordance with the act is another matter.a better way to address this would be to read up on the act on what can the MC can do in regards to non payment. The act clear states what is the method to collection on default of the fees. From my reading there is nothing mention about of disconnection of water as one of the methods of collection. Also there are judgments against the JMB/MC what this happens I believe for damages. |
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If the acts says no and the act is the highest governing issue in this matter in which committee meeting, agm and house rules decisions should be made in compliance to this.
If u maintain a lawful view on this then there is not much other way to go around it. By the way for chairman it's 2 conservative terms not 3 years. 3 years is for committee member This post has been edited by sam sam: May 5 2016, 05:58 PM |
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QUOTE(coinstar @ May 5 2016, 06:00 PM) He or she could wait it out for one term to tryThere is one grey area that may be possible Is to get somebody to be a committee member during the agm and half way resign. the committee then can appoint a new member to replace the resign committee member The key word is consecutive years and terms. Again not a straight forward but a rather grey area. And there is no guarantee the committee the committee can appoint back the chairman You can try |
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May 5 2016, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ May 5 2016, 06:14 PM) @coinstar, This way will be hit the grey area where u can't be committee member more than 3 years consecutive.Starting this year, chairman for two terms (two AGM) if he got re-elected; next AGM the person can be part of the committee member but in the position of treasurer or secretary. On the next AGM (4th term) that person, if re-elected can be a chairman one more ... am I right? AGM1 - elected and selected to be chairman. AGM2 - re-elected and selected to be chairman. AGM3 - re-elected and selected to be treasure or secretary or normal committee member. AGM4 - re-elected and selected to be chairman. AGM5 - re-elected and selected to be chairman. ... and so forth ... Cheers. Considering in agm it's appointment of committee member and then among themselves they elect office bearers. So I would argue this is illegal because could not be appointed as committee member in the first place |
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the owner must give written consent to be nominated and elected by the proxy
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Properietor is define when the name of the owner is registered in the strata roll of the MC. That means they need their names in strata title.
Some owners are known to have bought the unit but have not registered their names in the strata roll. This does not allow them to participate in the egm/agm proceedings of the MC. They don't even need to be send the notice of an Agm. The rule is clear on committee member even with a PA from high courts they can't be committee member unless they have a direct relationship with proprietor with 2 or more units. Rule is proprietor only for committee member only This post has been edited by sam sam: Jun 22 2016, 07:33 PM |
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ Jun 22 2016, 08:05 PM) @sam sam You can do everything a proprietor can do except be a committee member. So go and ask what u want, vote and nominateIf the owner has no arrears and gave a proxy to me to attend in AGM MC. I know that I can be a committe member in the MC. What rights do I have as a proxy holder in the AGM MC? Can I nominate, can I vote, can I ask questions or I am just an observer? Tq. |
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ Jun 25 2016, 12:23 PM) Hi all, No cob will chop receive the minutes and then the commitee will take the minutes to the bank and a formal letter to changeAfter MC AGM is completed, a period of 28 days is imposed to send a copy of MC AGM minutes (which included the list of new elected MC and SOA). Is DBKL going to give a letter to show that DBKL accept the AGM and with this DBKL letter, the new elected MC will go to the bank to change the owners name and cheque book signatories? Is this correct? Tq the relevant paperwork The bank would call cob to verify. I was told by the bank for this This post has been edited by sam sam: Jun 25 2016, 08:25 PM |
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QUOTE(earthcrystal @ Jul 5 2016, 01:01 PM) @sam sam. A complaint can be made but I don't think a new agm can be called unless there was issues during the agmThank you. So the newly elected MC will bring the chopped (by COB) AGM minutes and the new elected MC formal letter to the bank to make the necessary changes. If no action taken by the newly elected MC to bring the minutes to COB after 28 days have passed, what will happen? Can a complaint be filed to COB by the proprietor to request for a new AGM? Can a new AGM be held? Cheers. |
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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 7 2016, 09:12 AM) what happens when jmb or mc have failed to adhered to the timeline to submit their minutes to COB and also failed to displayed it at the notice board as per the act? We experience the same. Filed complaint with CobCob send letters but didn't treat it urgently The mc delay until it was like 3 months later. Cob said to file to tribunal. Perhaps to reduce their workload |
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