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TSiCeCan
post Oct 31 2006, 09:29 PM, updated 20y ago

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i hav been playing drums for 6 years already... but i only play it in church... ok la.. 6 years is not short and i got some skills in drumming and stuff but im seems to be quite consistent...i learn pratically only.. not professionally but most of the skills i had mastered quite ok... but i am only playing in church so i don't really go and "upgrade" myself to the professional stage yet.. anybody got any advice so i can get better in skills and drumming? should i go for courses or classes?

another question is that anybody know how to do the double bass thing? is really hard pratise.. i am training really hard for the double bass stuff... i can do it but not consitent enough... get tired easily.. lol...
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post Oct 31 2006, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(vandetta @ Oct 31 2006, 09:38 PM)
6 years?! I want to learn for you lah! That double bass things, the sound is really great, yeah Korn Metallica, all of their drummer use that double bass drum biggrin.gif
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after my STPM, i will start a class... haha... come la if u want... very cheap... but i teach basic stuff only.. i ain pro.. blush.gif

erm... the double bass thing is actually not double pedal... i tink u mean the double pedal thing... is very easy to do a double bass if u use a double bass... but if wanna do the double bass with a single pedal is reli reli hard... i can do but not consistent enough... haiz.. i see some ppl in city they can do double bass after they learn for 2 years.. i learn 6 years just like nothing... haiz...
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post Nov 1 2006, 01:20 AM

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yea. i know.. i am an athelete actually... but not very outstanding one la... btw, i don't have one metronome... hmm... i tink i will get one soon...
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post Nov 1 2006, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Nov 1 2006, 01:22 AM)
Practise makes perfect... 1-2 times a week should be great. Make sure your timing is great via metronome, that's the only way to keep up with the beat. tongue.gif
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i practise my drum skills almost everyday... erm.. only after my spm la.. but now STPM coming... i stopped actually... but gonna cont after that... thanks!

QUOTE(crazychris @ Nov 1 2006, 01:38 AM)
agree wit mike there
a metronome works wonders to ur practises
it builds up the inner clock smile.gif
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okok... i get 1 metronome... thanks!

btw, thanks for the tips on practising and metronome. biggrin.gif
but do u guys know how to get better in skills? i mean other drumming besides double bass... i tink i can master all beats already... except off beat sometimes i miss them... which i have been practising alot alot alot... well, can say ok only... haha! how to upgrade myself to be a professional drummer? anybody got tips?
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post Nov 1 2006, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 1 2006, 04:38 AM)
this is what i have been doing lately to "upgrade"....or at least try to upgrade  tongue.gif

Record yourself and playback. Listen for faults that you think you can clean up. Then rerecord until you are satisfied. Then compare the recording with your favourite drummer, or the drummer whose style is similar to yours. You will realise very quickly, that it's the really tiny aspects and the little things that separate good musicians from the pros. I know many good brilliant musicians, but very few are of pro standard. Even most of the teachers i see in music shops around the KL area are sloppy in their playing (NOT all of course).

This is also a great way to bring yourself down to the ground again when you think you're sooooo great. Works for me, whenever i think i'm the greatest bassist alive, i just record myself and playback and i'm back to "aww man...i really suck".  laugh.gif
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nice tips... thanks.. i have been doing that sometimes too... but sounds abit funny when doing the rolling stuff without any other musicians.. because i usually practise alone and i don't have a band... is it important to practise with a band together than just myself? i knw is important to cope with the music when we start the beat and stuff like that... but i usually practise with the radio or the recorded music and not live band... live band only during sunday worship... =)
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post Nov 1 2006, 08:37 PM

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icic... ok.. i try la... btw, i tink i am kinda gud at my basic only.. other advanced type of drumming... i am not that gud yet... haha...
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post Nov 2 2006, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 2 2006, 12:06 PM)
who cares? The guitarist and lead singer gets all the chicks most of the time...........
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yea... because they get to stand in front..
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post Nov 3 2006, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(m_man @ Nov 2 2006, 09:17 PM)
I recommend you to play some jazz bits like bossa nova and fusion. And try to listen to some pro drummers play, like Dave Weckl and Omar Hakim if you know them. Ah yes one more thing, try this site Drummerworld. Damn good site.
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laugh.gif k thx! i met a pro drummer before... brad knight... the drummer for desperation.. a christian band... if u knw la... he is reli gud. he got giv me some tips and web too...

btw, u guys knw where to get the cool stuff like some funky grooves?
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post Nov 4 2006, 12:56 AM

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k... thx! i m still searching for better grooves actually but i don;t quite have the time nw... =) gonna study 1st... may be after STPM... =)
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post Nov 9 2006, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(vassili @ Nov 7 2006, 09:49 PM)
ice can,i've been playing drums around 2 years and ur 6 i salute you! double bass is easy but need lots of practice and few usefull tips

1:if ur tired carry ur legs up just play it and carry the back of ur leg for faster
2:left then right start <- start left leg then right
3:get a wooden beater if you wanna make it sound better

cheers biggrin.gif
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yea. i tried that.. but what i meant about double bass is with only 1 leg and not with both legs on the pedals... if with double pedals is much simplier... btw, thanks for the tips... =) i will try it on double bass... i will practise after my examinations.. laugh.gif
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post Nov 16 2006, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(m_man @ Nov 14 2006, 10:55 PM)
I like funk, but i think funk grooves are a bit too simple. Indeed, because there are all simple 8th and 16th only.

Beginners should stick to single padle first, and best recommended with legs heel up.
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well, wat kinda funking grooves you mean?
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post Nov 17 2006, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 16 2006, 08:19 AM)
it depends what type of funk? Funk doesn't have to be simple. Shuffle things around and you don't have regular straight 16 beat anymore. 16 beat funk is the basic of funk. I have even seen people doing dotted note funk. Now that's is complex....
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dotted note funk? erm... wats that actually... btw, im not professionally train... so i dun reli understand some of the terms... laugh.gif but i can understand only some basic... i can play but i duno how do u call it... erm... professionally... laugh.gif
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post Nov 17 2006, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(thalidomide @ Nov 17 2006, 09:42 AM)
its sounds something like, 1+ e n a , 2 e n a, 3+ e n a, they're pretty much a straight up 16beat rhythm just that the parts are syncopated thats all. Add a shuffle to it and you get a pretty sick groove there.
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ic.. sounds kinda like 16 beat to me.

btw, gonne ask how u guys practise for getting the correct timing for these groove?
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post Nov 18 2006, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 17 2006, 03:18 PM)
i have a beatbox software on my com. And i just use the hi hat function to get the different beats. halfnote, quarternote, shuffled, triplets whatever... Although the samples are super shitty, it's good enough for practice.
Dunno if the same thing works for drums, but i know alot of practice routines that work for drums work for bass as well tongue.gif
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wow.. thats kinda cool... wat about electrical drums? wats the diff actually? i tried b4 once but feel very diff playing electrical drums... just not my type. i would jz bang everythg instead of heating it softly. laugh.gif
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post Nov 18 2006, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Bassix @ Nov 17 2006, 03:18 PM)
i have a beatbox software on my com. And i just use the hi hat function to get the different beats. halfnote, quarternote, shuffled, triplets whatever... Although the samples are super shitty, it's good enough for practice.
Dunno if the same thing works for drums, but i know alot of practice routines that work for drums work for bass as well tongue.gif
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wow.. thats kinda cool... wat about electrical drums? wats the diff actually? i tried b4 once but feel very diff playing electrical drums... just not my type. i would jz bang everythg instead of heating it softly. laugh.gif
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post Nov 18 2006, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Klez @ Nov 18 2006, 03:54 PM)
meet mr.lewis pragassam
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erm... sorry... i don't get it.. laugh.gif

 

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