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post Oct 15 2021, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(naveenkalai7 @ Sep 16 2021, 09:41 AM)
I have compared the sound with and without K5 pro but seems like no different for me, it sound the same.. Do i miss anything or what can be done, please help.. Thanks
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wrong sequence my man. I read much these few days and discover that you need to prioritize:

headphone or speaker -> amp/preamp -> dac (is the last one)

before you begin, ensure you need to have good quality source first. Streaming service like spotify are lossy provider, their source music is not that good. Being audiophile u need to ensure the entire chain is good enough to process your kind of music and it is a WORLD out there.
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post Oct 27 2021, 08:41 PM

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Since I have Apple Music and would really like to listen to the lossless music, I read that I will need to get a decent DAC that actually supports it, connect to my iPhone and a pair of good wired earphones/headphones. In terms of DAC, where should I begin? Something decent to start with and not those super high end one.
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post Oct 27 2021, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 27 2021, 08:41 PM)
Since I have Apple Music and would really like to listen to the lossless music, I read that I will need to get a decent DAC that actually supports it, connect to my iPhone and a pair of good wired earphones/headphones. In terms of DAC, where should I begin? Something decent to start with and not those super high end one.
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Your headphone/earphone is more important than a DAC.
In fact your priority would be headphone/earphone > amp > DAC. But Lotoo PAW S2, Luxury Precision W2, iFi Audio Go Blue, etc. is more than good enough as a portable DAC/amp.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Oct 27 2021, 09:19 PM)
Your headphone/earphone is more important than a DAC.
In fact your priority would be headphone/earphone > amp > DAC. But Lotoo PAW S2, Luxury Precision W2, iFi Audio Go Blue, etc. is more than good enough as a portable DAC/amp.
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I checked out the ones you recommended. they seem pricey. Are there anything that is more entry level and affordable?
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post Oct 28 2021, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 28 2021, 09:09 AM)
I checked out the ones you recommended. they seem pricey. Are there anything that is more entry level and affordable?
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Tempotec Sonata HD Pro, Meizu Hifi Pro, Apple 3.5mm dongle

The apple dongle is cheapest and measures well, but may not have enough power for certain headphones
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post Oct 28 2021, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 28 2021, 09:09 AM)
I checked out the ones you recommended. they seem pricey. Are there anything that is more entry level and affordable?
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Shanling UA1 is quite cheap. Should be more than adequate enough for IEMs and easy to drive headphones.
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 28 2021, 09:35 AM)
Tempotec Sonata HD Pro, Meizu Hifi Pro, Apple 3.5mm dongle

The apple dongle is cheapest and measures well, but may not have enough power for certain headphones
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I won't use the apple dongle, i prefer DAC that cater for lightning/android, but i think it's a matter of the cable connections.


QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Oct 28 2021, 11:29 AM)
Shanling UA1 is quite cheap. Should be more than adequate enough for IEMs and easy to drive headphones.
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This one looks like it's for type-c, if i need to buy extra converter from type-c to lightning, wouldn't it affect quality?

If my budget is around RM1.5K, what is the best headphones that i can get?
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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 28 2021, 04:20 PM)
This one looks like it's for type-c, if i need to buy extra converter from type-c to lightning, wouldn't it affect quality?

If my budget is around RM1.5K, what is the best headphones that i can get?
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No, if you get a decent adaptor it won't affect the quality. Other options - Soundmagic A30i, Hiby FC3, Audirect Atom 2, Hilidac Audirect Beam 2, upcoming FiiO KA3

For headphones, depends on what type of music you listen to? And closed back/open back? There is Sennheiser HD58X, Hifiman Sundara, E-mu Teak, Philips Fidelio X2/X3. Better if you go audition them yourselves since sound preference is subjective.
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E-Mu teak still on sale at the moment. Today is last day i believe. Should be about 1500 for the bamboo cups
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post Oct 30 2021, 02:06 PM

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Can I hook Preamp for edifier s360db?
Those preamp with USB ports for USB playback?
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post Oct 30 2021, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Oct 30 2021, 02:06 PM)
Can I hook Preamp for edifier s360db?
Those preamp with USB ports for USB playback?
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Can. Active speakers are generally very versatile and can handle a variety of inputs.
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post Oct 30 2021, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 30 2021, 02:23 PM)
Can. Active speakers are generally very versatile and can handle a variety of inputs.
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To summarise.
DAC and Amp for Passive
PreAmp for Active speakers?
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post Oct 30 2021, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Oct 30 2021, 02:39 PM)
To summarise.
DAC and Amp for Passive
PreAmp for Active speakers?
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You can feed active speakers with either DAC or preamp.
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post Oct 30 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 30 2021, 02:46 PM)
You can feed active speakers with either DAC or preamp.
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Oh. Thank you very much.

Still looking for DAC or Preamp with USB ports before ordering Edifier S360DB. DAC won't damage as got build in knob to control bass and treble something like Built in DAC?
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Oct 30 2021, 02:52 PM)
Oh. Thank you very much.

Still looking for DAC or Preamp with USB ports before ordering Edifier S360DB. DAC won't damage as got build in knob to control bass and treble something like Built in DAC?
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No problem. Will not damage the DAC or the speakers.
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 30 2021, 03:10 PM)
No problem. Will not damage the DAC or the speakers.
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Thank you. Will look for one soon.

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post Nov 1 2021, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Oct 28 2021, 09:35 AM)
Tempotec Sonata HD Pro, Meizu Hifi Pro, Apple 3.5mm dongle

The apple dongle is cheapest and measures well, but may not have enough power for certain headphones
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Oct 28 2021, 05:24 PM)
No, if you get a decent adaptor it won't affect the quality. Other options - Soundmagic A30i, Hiby FC3, Audirect Atom 2, Hilidac Audirect Beam 2, upcoming FiiO KA3

For headphones, depends on what type of music you listen to? And closed back/open back? There is Sennheiser HD58X, Hifiman Sundara, E-mu Teak, Philips Fidelio X2/X3. Better if you go audition them yourselves since sound preference is subjective.
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much appreciated for all the pointers. thank you!
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post Nov 1 2021, 01:20 PM

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https://shopee.com.my/Hillaudio-CS-PRO-DSD-...8893.9718776576

i bought this one for my iphone 13 PM. and bought mcdodo usb-c to lightning adapter. hopefully can pakai. seems like the CS43131 chipset used by ibasso d03 got some good review.
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post Nov 2 2021, 05:31 AM

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I have been using Hidizs S9pro amp dac for a few months now... use it with few headphones such as Fidelio X2HR, Grado SR80E, Fiio EM5.

I just purchased the Hifiman Sundara. I am wondering if should considering changing my amp dac to something else. Does different amp + dac produce very different sound? or ... usually they will sound similar, and the only purpose is to drive the headphone to the sufficient volume?

Do I need to upgrade my Hidizs S9 pro? Any benefit if I am going for ifi zen dac II or Fiio K5 pro from Hidizs ?
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Nov 2 2021, 05:31 AM)
I have been using Hidizs S9pro amp dac for a few months now... use it with few headphones such as Fidelio X2HR, Grado SR80E, Fiio EM5.

I just purchased the Hifiman Sundara. I am wondering if should considering changing my amp dac to something else. Does different amp + dac produce very different sound? or ... usually they will sound similar, and the only purpose is to drive the headphone to the sufficient volume?

Do I need to upgrade my Hidizs S9 pro? Any benefit if I am going for ifi zen dac II or Fiio K5 pro from Hidizs ?
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Planar driver not susceptible to ohm, they only need good amount of current into it. If your Hidizs can't get Sundara to produce sound until unbearable loud then you need to get more powerful amp.

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