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T231H
post Jun 10 2015, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 10 2015, 12:26 PM)
not bad wor this one!
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hmm.gif Minus takaful charges.....how much left? rclxub.gif
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post Jun 10 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 10 2015, 02:03 PM)
This is no good.

the normal SSPN can take out ANYTIME right? Just as long as there is a "net input" in that year then we can use it to deduct tax.

For example.

I put in 6k in Dec, take out 2 months later in Feb. Claim the 6k tax relief.
Next year, I put in 12k in Dec, take out 2 months later. Nett input 6k, claim tax relief.
ANother year, put in 18k in Dec, take out 2 months later etc...
This new scheme... only can take out THREE years later? TOo risky...
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hmm.gif got this from the website....

What are the terms for withdrawal of savings?

Withdrawals are allowed after a period of 1 year upon opening of an account. There are 2 types of withdrawals:

10% withdrawal of current balance OR RM500, whichever is lower, once a year; OR
•100% withdrawal (termination of account) in the following cases:◦The child is offered a place in any higher learning institution;
◦The child has voluntarily withdrawn from the education system OR has been expelled for a specific reason;
◦Suffering from an illness certified by a doctor as being incurable;
◦Experience total permanent disability as certified by a doctor;
◦Death of the child; or
◦Death of the depositor.

http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/english/faq-en...sspn/withdrawal


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post Jun 10 2015, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 10 2015, 02:17 PM)
I got the terms from SSPN office in KL Sentral.

I even sat down with them to outline my plan.... they blur and not sure as to the technicalities... until an officer come see see say ok

Edit : Wait.. u talking about the new SSPN or the current scheme?
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I think the 10% is right...because else the tax rebate/relief is "buta-buta" gives....
just like the tax relief/rebate of the PRS scheme...where they have withdrawal limitation too....
don't you think so
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post Jun 10 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jun 10 2015, 03:05 PM)
didnt close anything..

my kids now onli 2++ yrs old  sweat.gif

if free, i try ask my wife go take money out see can or not..  hmm.gif
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I think you can withdraw but with limitation as in your post#19
anyway,...as "Metoo" had asked before he open the a/c....
I will as like you...goto check with PTPTN if got free....

the terms is very clearly stated
http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/english/faq-en...sspn/withdrawal

"Maybe" not updated....if can,..the tax relief is BUTA-BUTA gives.....
and like what "MeToo" just said..."The system is there, either we use it or we don't".

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post Jun 10 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 10 2015, 03:33 PM)
SSPN officer says they calculate what is the NETT changes to the account.

So if you take out 20k in a calender year, you need to put in 26k in the same year to be able to claim the 6k tax relief.
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OK....
so lets says, I take out 20K in a calendar year 2015, and in year 2015,...i did not put in money..thus NO tax relief yr 2015.
in 2016 I put in RM 6K , I gets tax relief for yr 2016...
Is that what you said...?
needed more clarification before I go to their office

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post Jun 10 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 10 2015, 03:50 PM)
Yes.
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so how do you want to take out all the money?
close it?
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post Jun 10 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 10 2015, 04:00 PM)
Actually. They didnt clarify. I just asked if I can take out all. I gave them year by year scenario on how much I put in and out.

At first it confused the counter staff, then he call another 2 friends who is also confused. That is until they found an officer who understood and confirmed with me.
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OK...will try to find out.....

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post Jun 10 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Jun 10 2015, 04:07 PM)
jus go n open acc la. last time when i go open got free umbrella n small plastic bag  drool.gif

best is go ministry of higher education. d lobby there r their main PTPTN counter  thumbup.gif
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Opened mine few years back thru BSN.....no free gifts if I can recall...
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post Jun 11 2015, 10:08 AM

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MeToo, low yat 82
just came back from the PTPTN office...
what was said by "MeToo" in post #12 and post #24 are correct....

hmm.gif this will give me another avenue to maximise my money after the SSPN tax relief expired in 2017...(take out all in 2018?)

wongmunkeong if i can recall you did have a study and data on maximising the sspn saving....if got time can goto the nearest PTPTN office to confirm the above again and "recalculate" the study??
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post Jun 11 2015, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 11 2015, 10:22 AM)
Maximise as in:
2015 Dec: In $6K
2016 Jan: Out $6K

Use $6K to "roll" / "churn"

2016 Dec: In $12K
2017 Jan: Out 12K

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If so, so short term.. even if plonk back just into Flexi Mortgage.. for that 1%+pa difference VS SSPN's returns pa, i'm waaaaay too lazy.
If i can get >=3%pa spread for sure within 8 mths (prudent a bit lar just in case of hiccups), then worth it to me in/out this way for SSPN.
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i mean your calculation shows "something like" not worth to keep in SSPN for longer than 7 years due to low returns...
now with this "new info" seems like can take out after maximising the tax thing that ends in 2017....

i think this link was shown to you many months back....(hope you can recall) and understand what i was talking about....

Does it worth to put saving in Skim Simpanan Pendidikan Nasional (SSPN-i)?
http://voyager8.blogspot.com/2013/12/does-...ng-in-skim.html

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post Jun 11 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 11 2015, 10:34 AM)
Whoa bro?!

The tax relief ends in 2017?!  cry.gif  cry.gif
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yes, see point# 11
http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...3&unit=1&sequ=1
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post Jun 16 2015, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(geekfiredog @ Jun 11 2015, 11:20 AM)
The SSPN tax exemption started earlier than 2012, if not mistaken - they increase the limit from RM3,000 to RM6,000 in 2012.  Need to find out if the RM6,000 tax exemption ends in 2017 and back to RM3,000, or totally remove?
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hmm.gif ...just made a quick check and contribution assumption...
this year I have about RM 35k in PTPTN
will add in RM 12K next 2 years (2017)
Total will be about 47K in 2017
assuming interest rate is 4.3% pa.
will get about RM 2000 pa.
so if I add in just RM 1000 for year 2018 and onward....my sumbangan bersih for each year is RM 3000
will get tax rebate of RM 3000 x 23% = RM 690
My net contribution is just RM 310 for 2018
Every year my balance will increase due to interest thus my contribution will be reduced in the calculation of Sumbangan Bersih.
I think a few years after 2018...I dun need to contribute bcos my Sumbangan Bersih will reach RM 3000 and still get tax rebate.

therefore I think the stated limit of RM 3000 will be removed...

what do you think?

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post Jul 6 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Jul 6 2015, 10:48 PM)
out of the topic but hope anyone can help?
try to register to Pendaftaran Online E-SSPN
in order to get the copy for 2014 income tax
but what is this POSKOD SEMASA PEMBUKAAN AKAUN SSPN:?
my house postcode?
until now can't register it online
call them no body pick up the phone
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hmm.gif while waiting for responses....
try the postcode of the registration address?
looks like it...

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post May 10 2016, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(cheekian98 @ May 10 2016, 09:10 PM)
if i am single and have SSPN-i with my own name? can i enjoy the tax exempted rebate when do tax filing? or i must have son/daughter only can claim the tax rebate? anyone have idea?
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Pelepasan taksiran cukai pendapatan ke atas simpanan SSPN-i:
1. Ibu bapa dan ibu bapa angkat/ penjaga yang sah dari segi undang-undang yang menyimpan dalam akaun SSPN-i untuk manfaat anak diberi pelepasan sehingga maksima RM6,000.00 setahun tertakluk kepada jumlah simpanan bersih tahun semasa;

2. Ibu bapa yang membuat taksiran berasingan dan telah membuka akaun simpanan SSPN-i berasingan atas anak yang sama diberikan pelepasan sehingga maksima RM6,000.00 seorang setahun;

3. Ibu bapa yang membuat taksiran bersama dan telah membuka akaun simpanan SSPN-i berasingan diberi pelepasan sehingga maksima RM6,000.00 setahun; dan

4. Individu yang menyimpan untuk diri sendiri tidak diberi pelepasan taksiran cukai.


http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/guest/simpanan/cukai
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post Oct 19 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Oct 19 2016, 01:55 PM)
regarding this point:

2. Ibu bapa yang membuat taksiran berasingan dan telah membuka akaun simpanan SSPN-i berasingan atas anak yang sama diberikan pelepasan sehingga maksima RM6,000.00 seorang setahun;

do I need to open 2 sspn accounts (me and wife) separately on the same son to enjoy 6k tax relief each?
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try this?...
Question 6 :
If parents filed separate assessment and have opened SSPN-i accounts, what would be the maximum incentive amount?

Answer :
They will each enjoy the maximum incentive amount of RM6,000.00 annually.


Question 7 :
If parents filed joint assessment and have opened SSPN-i accounts, what would be the maximum incentive amount?

Answer :
They will jointly enjoy the maximum incentive amount of RM6,000.00 annually.

http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/english/insent...ih-dalam-sspn-i
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post Oct 19 2016, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Oct 19 2016, 02:11 PM)
my question is, one kid, one sspn account of 12k deposit, or one kid, 2 sspn accounts of 6k deposit?
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Terms & conditions to opening an SSPN-i account

Depositor and beneficiary must be Malaysian citizen

Depositor also can open account for himself as beneficiary;

Each depositor can only open one account for same beneficiary;

Beneficiary must be 1 day up before reaching the age of 29 years;

Beneficiary who have had accounts open by depositor can open an account for himself or to open an account for any other citizen. This means beneficiary at the same time can be a depositor; and

Different depositor is allowed to open an account for the same beneficiary and no limit on the number of accounts for each beneficiary.

http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/english/231

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post Dec 4 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Squarrel @ Dec 4 2016, 01:44 PM)
SSPN-i Plus
I have one question here.
I'm single and can I open account for my parent in order to enjoy the takaful benefit(36critical illness,Accident,Nature Death) once anything(touch wood) happen to my parent?
Was attracted to the takaful benefit(for parent) since I don't have child to entitle me for tax exemption.
Thanks
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while waiting for more value added responses,...you may try the info from here....which I think the answers are hidden in there...
https://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/guest/simpanan/cukai
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post Dec 21 2016, 07:14 AM

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QUOTE(imnotabot @ Dec 21 2016, 03:26 AM)
Hi guys. Is it a good idea to invest in SSPN/SSPN-i (not interested in the Plus) for the long run to get the maximum RM6,000 tax relief every year (e.g. put RM500 every month)? I'm not intending to use the money in SSPN-i in the short run as I already have an emergency fund to cover any emergencies.

Is there a drawback I'm not seeing?
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jfi,
as per current available policy...the RM 6000 tax relief is still 2017, then I suppose it would go back to RM 3000
http://www.hasil.org.my/bt_goindex.php?bt_...sequ=1&bt_lgv=2

the main drawback is there is certain t & C on its withdrawal....

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QUOTE(kh_lim @ Mar 27 2017, 02:22 PM)
May I know if I open an SSPN-i account for my kid now, will I still entitled for RM6,000 tax relief?
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see # 10
http://www.hasil.org.my/bt_goindex.php?bt_...sequ=1&bt_lgv=2
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post Oct 21 2017, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Sphenix @ Oct 21 2017, 12:42 AM)
Not quite understand this statement.... anyone can enlighten me?
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try to break down that statement into shorter one ....then I think it would be easier to "see"

1) Withdrawal of savings can only be done after one (1) year of saving in the SSPN.

2) The withdrawal of 10% of the balance in the account or RM500 (whichever is lower)

3) once annually is allowed (after one year of becoming member).

easier to see right? now which question you don't understand?

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