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post Jun 11 2015, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 11 2015, 10:33 AM)
This is definitely worth it.. as we hit the top 2 LHDN bracket.. our "returns" on investment is 24~25% of this $6000. Even if our money doesnt work for the rest of the year, its already worth it. However, the reason I take it out is the fact that I'm not very confident of this govt, I dont want to risk any legislation "changes" which might change the withdrawal policy and see my money stuck there.

In the 8~10 months between, we can either drop the money into our house flexipay account (not me though), for me I will just plunk it into FD as spare rolling/emergency cash.
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Clarification for the unclear - not worth it to me in/out/in/out SSPN.
For just plonk & forget - worthwhile for me at my tax bracket.
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post Jun 11 2015, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 10 2015, 02:23 PM)
http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/english/saving...hdrawal-closure

There is no 10% ruling. Just call SSPN and ask.

The system is there, either we use it or we dont.
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Have you withdrawn all the money you deposited into SSPN last year to validate what you have been told?
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post Jun 11 2015, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 11 2015, 10:30 AM)
i mean your calculation shows "something like" not worth to keep in SSPN for longer than 7 years due to low returns...
now with this "new info" seems like can take out after maximising the tax thing that ends in 2017....

i think this link was shown to you many months back....(hope you can recall) and understand what i was talking about....

Does it worth to put saving in Skim Simpanan Pendidikan Nasional (SSPN-i)?
http://voyager8.blogspot.com/2013/12/does-...ng-in-skim.html
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er.. look at my signature's 3rd link - SSPN.
I didn't say "not worth it" only - it can be better if one mixes it with equity investments.
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post Jun 11 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(geekfiredog @ Jun 11 2015, 11:16 AM)
Have you withdrawn all the money you deposited into SSPN last year to validate what you have been told?
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check out T231H post #33

To answer your post, actually I havent, I really should... but procrastination and the fact the best I could do with the money is plonking it into FD is making me sit on my butt blush.gif

This post has been edited by MeToo: Jun 11 2015, 11:20 AM
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post Jun 11 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 11 2015, 10:36 AM)
The SSPN tax exemption started earlier than 2012, if not mistaken - they increase the limit from RM3,000 to RM6,000 in 2012. Need to find out if the RM6,000 tax exemption ends in 2017 and back to RM3,000, or totally remove?
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post Jun 11 2015, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(geekfiredog @ Jun 11 2015, 11:20 AM)
The SSPN tax exemption started earlier than 2012, if not mistaken - they increase the limit from RM3,000 to RM6,000 in 2012.  Need to find out if the RM6,000 tax exemption ends in 2017 and back to RM3,000, or totally remove?
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Good point.

If its back to 3000... still better then nothing.. 25% of 3000 is still a meal or two tongue.gif
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post Jun 11 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 11 2015, 11:17 AM)
er.. look at my signature's 3rd link - SSPN.
I didn't say "not worth it" only - it can be better if one mixes it with equity investments.
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Bro...

I really cannot see any better returns then 20ish% (dependent on your tax bracket) percent return on your money within a 2~3 months period.

Perhaps you might wanna take another look at in with the fact that we can totally withdraw the money anytime we like.
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post Jun 11 2015, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jun 11 2015, 10:08 AM)
MeToo, low yat 82
just came back from the PTPTN office...
what was said by "MeToo" in post #12 and post #24 are correct....

hmm.gif this will give me another avenue to maximise my money after the SSPN tax relief expired in 2017...(take out all in 2018?)

wongmunkeong if i can recall you did have a study and data on maximising the sspn saving....if got time can goto the nearest PTPTN office to confirm the above again and "recalculate" the study??
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ic... nice info!
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post Jun 11 2015, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 11 2015, 11:23 AM)
Bro...

I really cannot see any better returns then 20ish% (dependent on your tax bracket) percent return on your money within a 2~3 months period.

Perhaps you might wanna take another look at in with the fact that we can totally withdraw the money anytime we like.
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Sorry - i don't want waste time on in/out/in/out all within a year or less.
My time cost to deal with PTPTN to take out is not worthwhile
+ like i shared earlier - what's the point for 1%pa+ variance vs my Flexi mortgage? (to take out of SSPN and plonk in my Flexi mortgage, then back into SSPN, rinse/repeat)

It's like those chasing FD %pa - unless it's like >=RM3M, not worth it for me
Worth it for some of course - big amount mar.

U say 20%pa+ returns yet i think U still don't understand where i'm coming from.
In simple English:
I do SSPN and i don't treat it as a stock exchange or options trade.
I just leave it there as there is no good usage for it in less than 1 year for me to do the in/out/in/out dance.
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post Jun 11 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 11 2015, 02:43 PM)
Sorry - i don't want waste time on in/out/in/out all within a year or less.
My time cost to deal with PTPTN to take out is not worthwhile
+ like i shared earlier - what's the point for 1%pa+ variance vs my Flexi mortgage? (to take out of SSPN and plonk in my Flexi mortgage, then back into SSPN, rinse/repeat)

It's like those chasing FD %pa - unless it's like >=RM3M, not worth it for me
Worth it for some of course - big amount mar.

U say 20%pa+ returns yet i think U still don't understand where i'm coming from.
In simple English:
I do SSPN and i don't treat it as a stock exchange or options trade.
I just leave it there as there is no good usage for it in less than 1 year for me to do the in/out/in/out dance.
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Ahh.. I see what u mean.

I'm coming form a diff direction, I'm not looking at the return/benefits form taking it out.

I'm looking at the security.

I have no confidence in the country handling my money.
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post Jun 11 2015, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 11 2015, 04:08 PM)
Ahh.. I see what u mean.

I'm coming form a diff direction, I'm not looking at the return/benefits form taking it out.

I'm looking at the security.

I have no confidence in the country handling my money.
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eh - like that i think better focus on EPF Ac1 --> investments & Ac2 --> monthly out, more oomph for "don't trust Gov with big % of $"
other than tax optimization your method with SSPN lar smile.gif
just a thought notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 11 2015, 07:42 PM)
eh - like that i think better focus on EPF Ac1 --> investments & Ac2 --> monthly out, more oomph for "don't trust Gov with big % of $"
other than tax optimization your method with SSPN lar smile.gif
just a thought  notworthy.gif
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Yup.. taking out EPF Acc2 for house DP, then monthly repayment also out form acc2, better then they suddenly decide to extend withtdrawal age to 90 and then pay out by installment.
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post Jun 12 2015, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 9 2015, 09:23 PM)
Our DPM just launched SSPN-i Plus on 8 June 2015
Below is the features:-
1. Education plan with affordable n takaful coverage
2. Savings from RM50 a month
3. Competitive returns
4. Tax relief up to RM12,000 pa
Website ---> http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/guest/sspn-i-plus1

Personally, I'm keen on item 4

Welcome to give comments on how tis product work n how it can benefit tax payers to reduce income tax
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post Jun 12 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Sacrifies @ Jun 12 2015, 09:22 AM)
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http://www.ptptn.gov.my/web/guest/sspn-i-p...1BBBB94B0926D3D

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post Jun 14 2015, 05:45 PM

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Max tax relief for SSPN-i Plus is RM3.6k pa for sumbangan Takaful
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post Jun 14 2015, 06:24 PM

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I thought I could get tax relief of 12k per year with SSPN-i Plus but looks like I can't. Read through the FAQ section and this is what is written:

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SSPN-i Plus  dan  SSPN-i masing-masing  menawarkan  pelepasan  taksiran  cukai pendapatan  ke  atas  simpanan  bersih  tahun  semasa  sehingga  RM6,000  bagi  akaun yang dibuka untuk anak/ anak jagaan yang sah. Jika pendeposit mempunyai kedua-dua akaun,  adakah  pelepasan  taksiran  cukai  pendapatan  yang  boleh  dinikmati  adalah sebanyak RM12,000?

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Tidak. Pelepasan taksiran cukai pendapatan ke atas simpanan bersih bagi SSPN-i Plus dan  SSPN-i hanya  diberikan  sehingga  RM6,000.  Walau  bagaimanapun  bagi  akaun SSPN-i Plus,  pendeposit  boleh  menikmati  tambahan  pelepasan  taksiran  cukai pendapatan  ke  atas  sumbangan  takaful  yang  dibayar  kepada  pengendali  takaful sebanyak RM6,000, di bawah kategori pelepasan bagi insurans nyawa dan KWSP.
So, if your max contribution to normal SSPN-i is at least 6k and your life insurance/KWSP contribution is also at least 6k, you'll get no more tax relief from SSPN-i Plus.

From the link you guys posted : http://www.ptptn.gov.my/docs/SSPN-i%20Plus...PN-i%20PLUS.pdf
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post Jun 14 2015, 09:35 PM

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With savings as low as RM50 in SSPN-i Plus, depositors r eligible to participate in Lucky Draw worth RM3.00 mil from 8/6/15 to 31/5/16
Quarterly draw : 1 BMW 320i
Annual draw :
1st prize x 1 - Apartment worth RM500k
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Nice got Lucky Draw rclxms.gif It would attract some to SSPN-i Plus tongue.gif
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post Jun 15 2015, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jun 14 2015, 06:24 PM)
I thought I could get tax relief of 12k per year with SSPN-i Plus but looks like I can't. Read through the FAQ section and this is what is written:
So, if your max contribution to normal SSPN-i is at least 6k and your life insurance/KWSP contribution is also at least 6k, you'll get no more tax relief from SSPN-i Plus.

From the link you guys posted : http://www.ptptn.gov.my/docs/SSPN-i%20Plus...PN-i%20PLUS.pdf
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To me is something additional commitment with insurance , maybe it just add 1or 2 extra benefits .


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