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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.9, Please Read Post#1 and #3

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post Aug 6 2015, 06:52 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Aug 5 2015, 11:38 PM)
Tai Gor...
What kind of winter melon & tohu in the market..???  hmm.gif

Did you mean higher interest rate is coming because US is going to raise interest rate by this year end?

Yes, Affin pays interest upon FD maturity, that means interest will pay in 15 months later.
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No, nothing to do with interest rate. It's about the political and economical stability in our beloved country. Call me paranoid but my confidence level is that low. Not at the level I used to be. sad.gif
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post Aug 11 2015, 05:11 PM

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So many uncertainties now, better don't lock up cash too long. Crisis is opportunity, be very liquid and wait for bargain to come. Crisis/opportunity don't come very often, 17 looong years waiting man. Don't miss it. drool.gif
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post Aug 11 2015, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(wr6969 @ Aug 11 2015, 06:01 PM)
No la, satu ratus sahaja.  Maybe I looked even more pitiful today, and they wanted me to feel a little better lo laugh.gif
Lock in high rates first, then if got opportunity just withdraw and take opportunity if it arises?  Any tips on these opportunities?  Landed property auctions? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gsc @ Aug 11 2015, 06:35 PM)
Please share if opportunity knocks...tq
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During the late nineties currency crisis, the KLSE CI nose dived to 262points from the high of 1300, stocks were at rock bottom prices, DSL house at Bandar Utama was as low as RM300k down from Rm400k+. Stocks and property are not the only opportunity during crisis, things like businesses, fine jewelry, collected item Swiss made watches etc etc will be at bargain price too. Therefore crisis = opportunity to those who have FD.
I'm not sure if we are going to have the crisis or not but there are already indications pointing to that direction. So my personal strategy is to be as liquid as possible from now on. As liquid as possible means, start adjusting my FD placement term ratio in favor of short term FD. Grab every opportunity that comes along if my gut feel tells me so.

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post Aug 11 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 11 2015, 08:56 PM)
Hopefully it's true. If yes, I can go on shopping spree. Hopefully a single story house can drop to say rm100k.

By the way, what are the signs you are talking about?
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Hopefully there will be no crisis. A lot of people will be suffering including people around you, businesses will be suffering too. Only cash rich people who grab the opportunity during the crisis will be benefited.
Just my personal view on how I manage my FD when I see a cloudy day right in front of me.
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post Aug 11 2015, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 11 2015, 10:35 PM)
Wow, today RM go beyond RM4 to USD !! Luckily I bought it yesterday but long term still will be big issue.  doh.gif
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You can seriously consider dual currency account already.
You can enjoy higher interest in ringgit until you strike USD, and when you strike, you strike at spot rate, which is cheaper than tt/od rate.
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post Aug 12 2015, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Aug 12 2015, 08:17 AM)
HSBC requires 300k aum to take it, any other banks offering this?
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Citibank, OCBC.
I'm not too sure about HSBC and the minimum trading amount now. Few years ago, I was able to trade with lower amount of Rm100k with Citibank. Perhaps the 300k AUM requirement is for the HSBC PB status before you can open DCA.
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post Aug 12 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 12 2015, 02:24 PM)
Call your RM or call the bank, or go to the branch.

So it looks like more people seeing this problem now.  doh.gif
One of the banks that I asked said 50k min for the DCA. Can't recall which one. But I think they need people to have the PB status before allowing it.

But I thought it is difficult to play this "strike" price. So decided to do the plain old simple way of buying the bank draft or TT when the need comes.  biggrin.gif
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Oh ya, you reminds me that CTB min trade is RM50k.

Since you need USD after all, you are in win win situation. If you never strike, you ringgit still yield better return than FD, eg. 2 weeks trade for £ at spot-0, the interest rate is 10%p.a today. (Sorry, I don't have USD trade info)
You have a 50% chance to strike if you choose spot-0, that means in the event ringgit recover, you ringgit wil be converted to USD at your chosen spot rate + 2weeks 10% interest income.
It doesn't matter if you never strike, you will still earn the 10% interest and at any time you can stop the trade and buy USD the plain old way when the need comes.

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post Aug 12 2015, 09:01 PM

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Affin bank pays RM255m for 0.51ha of land in TRX.
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post Aug 12 2015, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Aug 12 2015, 09:04 PM)
Not the bank but its group company
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The paper stated Affin Bank Berhad.
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...land/?style=biz

It works out to about RM4699 per sqft.

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post Aug 12 2015, 09:47 PM

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Today's evening news paper headline is really spine-chilling.
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post Aug 12 2015, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Aug 12 2015, 09:45 PM)
Meaning affin bank will have long term fd promo soon...haha
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As the matter of fact, Affin's 4.33% 15mths FD is the highest among commercial banks.

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post Aug 13 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Aug 13 2015, 12:47 PM)
was there any article supporting this headline? link pls?
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Here's the English version.
http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...an-devaluation/
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post Aug 18 2015, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Aug 18 2015, 09:11 AM)
pidm vs. MOF

Both are same.  no difference if there are bail-ins or bail-outs.
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Hello, BR has nothing to do with MOF.
BR is a cooperative bank under KPDNKK.

It's very wrong and misleading to equate "Only if there is bailout." as a same protection as PIDM. You are literally saying no protection = with protection.

bailout is not capital guarantee, capital guarantee is this:






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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Aug 18 2015, 04:04 PM)
Tai Gor,

Since BR is a cooperative bank under KPDNKK --- Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, Koperasi dan Kepenggunaan.

Does it mean that all depositors' money in FD deposits, saving accounts and current accounts are under the
protection/guarantee by KPDNKK..????

And since KPDNKK is a government department, does it mean that BR is under the protection/guarantee of the government?

How about MBSB?
Adalah semua duit di MBSB di jaminkan oleh KWSP..?  hmm.gif
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Sifu,

From my limited understanding, I don't think deposits in BR and MBSB has any protection or guarantee written in black and white. But there is a "feel good" factor about these two DFIs because both BR and MBSB are government owned. If anything goes wrong, very likely Gomen will bail them out but under no obligation whatsoever.
Therefore, if you were to ask me to rate deposit protection like rating agency style, I would rate BSN's simpanan dijamin kerajaan as A+, commercial banks with PIDM as A and government linked DFIs as A-.
No right or wrong. biggrin.gif










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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 18 2015, 07:47 PM)
right, i hedged >1 year ago. still have some fd, though. and i hv yet to commit to the aud! laugh.gif

yes, i see see tough times ahead too. an economy does not auto recover by doing nothing or big mouth talk.

if not careful, 4q2015 might see little gdp growth or even contraction.

crude, bursa, rm... very dicey in the coming months, everyone has own thoughts about them.

brace yourselves! tongue.gif
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Sifu,

How you hedge ? Can share share ? drool.gif
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post Aug 18 2015, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 18 2015, 08:32 PM)
well, i actually mean diversification.

i spread my blood sweat and tears over several vehicles, several currencies.

rm - fd, frnid
sgd - sgx reits
usd - us stocks, etf's

nothing in bursa, no unit trusts, no private retirement funds, no funds supermart.

nothing exotic that can't be done by anyone in msia.

basically, that's it! biggrin.gif

there are many threads on the broad subject - rm, sgx, us stocks, etf's.
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Cool! Thanks for sharing. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 18 2015, 08:50 PM)
Incorrect
In fact, both BR n BSN is DFI whereas MBSB is an exempt finance co
I wud assign 'top' protection to BSN (g'tee by Gomen), follow by BR n MBSB
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Thanks for the correction.
You missed out commercial banks with PIDM, Whats PIDM rating in your opinion?
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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Aug 19 2015, 11:25 AM)
Wow, effectively 3.6% on a 12 months.

Banks should adopt effective rate (12 months) method when selling FD products less than or more than 12 months so that FD holders are properly advised.
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Bro, can you explain why a 15mths 4.5% FD equals to a 12 mths FD at 3.6% effective ??
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QUOTE(sandkoh @ Aug 19 2015, 12:15 PM)
lets all put $$$ into br to get 5.356% 15 mth. brows.gif  laugh.gif
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Don't be so naive la... doh.gif
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QUOTE(haur @ Aug 19 2015, 01:31 PM)
How about the calculation for SCB 4.5%p.a. 15mth which you calculated to be 3.6%?
Can you elaborate more?  icon_question.gif
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LossAndFound already help him answer based on his understanding on per annum and effective rate.

His calculation was 12/15 x 4.5% = 3.6% hehehe... brows.gif
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Aug 19 2015, 06:22 PM)
hello pearl_white, wake up!!

You are stupid or what?

People in here all laughing at your stupidity you showed in those calculations and you keep
flaunting more for them to  laugh at.....??

Ada kemaluan kah??
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Walau...!! you really 96 (kaulat). sweat.gif

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