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arju
post Feb 21 2017, 04:10 PM

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What if my living area plus dining total is 596ft2 need how many horsepower? if single unit can cover both area. TQ sifu

Living around 400ft2
Dining around 200ft2
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post Feb 21 2017, 08:12 PM

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So 2.5 living and 1.5 dining? electric city costly ya

or go for 3.5HP single unit? but unable to find 3.5HP split unit inverter

Which configuration better.
If not will install fan on dining and 2.5HP on living.
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post Feb 22 2017, 08:39 AM

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Thanks man. Appreciate bro fast responsed
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post Oct 27 2017, 12:06 AM

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hi sifu,
my living room and dining is combine. no wall one.
size 36x16x9. Plan to get cassette, but dunno how to calculate.
Thank for guidance. TQ
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post Oct 27 2017, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Oct 27 2017, 06:05 AM)
9ft ceiling too low for cassette unless it's net height? 10 ft minimum so that when plaster 1ft there's 9ft of net ceiling height. For 9ft after plaster net 8ft left. Ideal is 11ft ceiling height.

Is dining and kitchen combined also or separated by a wall and door? Is this landed or condo? Use this post as a guideline. You may need two wall mounted split units. At least 2.5hp in living and at least 1.5hp in dining assuming living room is about 60% of the space.  More if factors suggest higher cooling load required.
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Thanks for replied. thumbs up. Ya net living 9' 10", dining net 9ft. dining and living combine no wall no door.
Kitchen and dining is separated by wall/door. Ya correct around 67% is for living.

so 2.5hp in living and dining 1.5hp ya?

If alternative i plan to put fan only in dining. and one air con in living need use how many HP aircon?
coz dining only eating twice a day only. Thank you sifu
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post Nov 9 2017, 11:18 PM

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hi sifu, daikin 3.0 HP inverter cassette ceiling how much r. i search lazada n 11street all no inverter type. tq for assistance
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post Nov 14 2017, 10:15 PM

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Hi, need some help my living area is 21x18ft....
should use 3.0HP cassette or split to 1.5HPx2?
pls help recommend.
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post Nov 15 2017, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 15 2017, 10:11 AM)
Ceiling needs to be minimum 11ft otherwise after installation, it would be too low. If that is not an issue, if the space for placement such that it's strategically cool all sides without looking ugly fugly should be ok as long as you feel that you can do without ceiling fans. For a price of a 3HP ceiling, 2x2HP single split can be bought also.
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sorry i mean 3.0Hp one unit cassette or
1.5hp x2 unit cassette. tq for ur fast responsed.

currently plaster ceiling height is 10ft 10”
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post Nov 15 2017, 08:14 PM

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thank you again halcyon27. so detail.
got benefit ya use 2x1.5hp cassette instead of 1 unit of 3.0HP cassette.
air distribution is it?
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post Nov 21 2017, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 16 2017, 11:04 AM)
You know your layout better so if it's two separate zones, this will be better else a single 3.0HP can do also.

Btw, unless your place is corner unit, a single 2.5HP should be adequate. Go through the heat load calculation. Usually ground floor uses lower heat load factor unless certain conditions are met e.g. facing these direction:W,SW,S; corner unit; no deep porch or verendah; no garden...ie fully paved driveway. Then the heat will be conducted inwards from the ground and reradiated from the floor. Similarly no porch means the heat absorbed by the wall will also reradiate inwards.
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attached layout living. Dining area i will just put fan no need aircon when eating.
So is either 1unit 3Hp or 2units of 1.5Hp cassette in living area. Tq please assist.

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post Nov 22 2017, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 22 2017, 08:40 AM)
Unless an openable partition dividing dining and living area is installed you need to add the dining (13' 7" x 14' 2.25") to the living (21'x22.625'). This space is actually one large room divided into two areas/spaces: living and dining. The stairwell 21'x4.625' needs to be included as they are adjoining spaces also.  Thus sizing is predicate upon a closer approximation of the whole space. If there is something like a W or accordion top hung track partition that can be closed, yes you can just take into account of 21x22.625' (minus the lopped off corner outside the entrance). Let's take approximately 660sqft.

Taking an optimistic to conservative calculation
660 sqft x 60 = 39,600BTU/hr = 4HP
660 sqft x 65 = 42,900BTU/hr = 4.5HP

Also, this does not take into account of the heat from the downlight's ballast or driver. If we tweak the heat load higher:
660 sqft x 70 = 46,200BTU/hr = 4.5-5.0HP

If budget is a constraint, a 2.5 to 3HP will render the room barely cool enough (27°C to 25°C) if not cold (25°C and below). Any colder is beyond the power of the AC to cool on hot afternoons except on cloudy days after rain.
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thank you for your detail info. there is no partition between dining and living area. dining no intention to put aircon.
so suggest to put 2units of 2.0 cassette in living area? to at least cool 20°C in afternoon?

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post Nov 23 2017, 11:12 PM

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why need to switch to dry mode then off? sorry just know this tip today
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Nov 23 2017, 09:13 AM)
Mine is slightly bigger than your house with one Mitsubishi 2.5hp. Ac installed. Cold enough for the entire ground floor i.e. living, dining and kitchen. Temp setting 26c-27c.
Please take note that the outdoor unit is pretty big and heavy. Around 60kg.
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bigger layout than my living and dining layout but you only use 2.5HP how come, i puzzle. so i need buy 3.0 1unit or 3.0hp+ 1.5hp combo.
i plan to use daikin cassette. mitsubishi cooler than daikin?
thanks for sharing
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post Nov 24 2017, 10:29 AM

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thank you, halcyon27. appreciate sir fast response.
u the best. i will install 3.0 HP inverter first which will cost 5.5k. if not cold will add in 1.5HP. can’t go wrong with daikin cassete brand ya. thank you
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post Dec 13 2017, 12:44 AM

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Daikin 3.0hp Eco King Ceiling Cassette Type Air Conditioner FCN30F/RN30C (R410A) or

Mitsubishi 3.0HP CASSETTE Air Conditioner (R410) : FDT71CR-S

TQ
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post Dec 13 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Dec 13 2017, 06:10 AM)
Mitsubishi Heavy Industries FDT71CR-S is spec is rated at 24,225BTU/hr (7.1kW).

The Daikin FCN30F spec mated with RN30C is 30,000BTU/hr (8.79kW)

If greater cooling capacity is your priority, the choice is clear. Check the price at Lazada, could be cheaper.
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i mean if both same spec recommend daikin or mitsubishi?
which one more reliable n lifespan. TQ bro. you aircon sifu here.

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post Jan 25 2018, 08:58 AM

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hi sifu, need some help.
in mist to buy aircon.
cassette 3.0HP 30,000btu daikin or acson.

split unit acson or daikin

all non inverter.

tq all for guideance

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post Jan 25 2018, 06:04 PM

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i mean brand wise. installer said acson same as daikin. choose whichever cheaper. want to ask opinion
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post Apr 3 2018, 11:04 PM

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hi, if the aircon copper routing until 51ft for 1.0 HP. Will it take more energy to cool and take longer time to cool also? tq for noob question.

 

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