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post Apr 26 2021, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Apr 26 2021, 05:49 PM)
Thank you all for the info  notworthy.gif , my neighbor sounded like he re-wired his cassettes points to IDU instead of ODU... make me panic if my original wiring would work. The wiring are for 3HP, 2.5HP and 2HP cassettes... total 4 points.
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Hahaha it is best to follow per your own AC unit mfg installation spec as the mfg design was not just an arbitrary (suka suka spec) but they will have taken all the relevant control, power draw etc into consideration. smile.gif
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post Apr 27 2021, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 26 2021, 10:10 PM)
Hahaha it is best to follow per your own AC unit mfg installation spec as the mfg design was not just an arbitrary (suka suka spec) but they will have taken all the relevant control, power draw etc into consideration. smile.gif
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The developer's subcontractor for aircond sells Mitsubishi... so I see also the showroom all Mitsubishi aircond and wall mounts, and the pipe specs are for those. Which also means the smaller cassette areas can't use with Daikin's R32 inverters even the 2HP requires pretty big pipe size sweat.gif
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post Apr 27 2021, 07:12 AM

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I recently bought a Midea 1HP aircond. I was skeptical at first but the salesman told me Midea had bought over Toshiba appliances business.

https://www.midea-group.com/Our-Businesses/...liances/toshiba

This gave me confidence since my old Toshiba aircond lasted for 30 years biggrin.gif
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post Apr 27 2021, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Apr 27 2021, 07:12 AM)
I recently bought a Midea 1HP aircond. I was skeptical at first but the salesman told me Midea had bought over Toshiba appliances business.

https://www.midea-group.com/Our-Businesses/...liances/toshiba

This gave me confidence since my old Toshiba aircond lasted for 30 years  biggrin.gif
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Im using Midea 1hp inverter. 1year plus already, no problem. Just the ODU casing got some metal vibrating sound (on full power before slowing down)

Haven't check yet.

Most seller/installer will mention about this midea ODU problem after a year..
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post Apr 27 2021, 11:36 AM


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QUOTE(Max @ Apr 27 2021, 10:53 AM)
Im using Midea 1hp inverter. 1year plus already, no problem. Just the ODU casing got some metal vibrating sound (on full power before slowing down)

Haven't check yet.

Most seller/installer will mention about this midea ODU problem after a year..
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likely some sound insulation foam that is loose and scraping with the outdoor unit fan.

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QUOTE(Max @ Apr 27 2021, 10:53 AM)
Im using Midea 1hp inverter. 1year plus already, no problem. Just the ODU casing got some metal vibrating sound (on full power before slowing down)

Haven't check yet.

Most seller/installer will mention about this midea ODU problem after a year..
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Hai urgh brand in my dad's office..as the fan grille of ODU is metal, it rattles with the ODU casing due to the airflow and quieten down once you place a palm to press on the fan grille laugh.gif
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post Apr 28 2021, 12:01 PM

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Nubis kubis here asking for opinion on 2 Panasonic Aircon’s. My developer giving me 2 Aircon’s free
1hp Panasonic cspn9vkh &
2hp pnanasonic cspn18kvh

Wondering if it’s worth the top up to upgrade to these models ?
1hp inverter standard cspu9vkh &
2hp standard inverter cspu18kvh

Also, the supplier pushing the x-deluxe inverter on me .
Any benefits over the standard inverter ?

My priority good cooling and energy saving. Don’t care much fir air purifying stuffs
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post Apr 28 2021, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(zero88 @ Apr 28 2021, 12:01 PM)
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@ceo684 the local taiko

Nubis kubis here asking for opinion on 2 Panasonic Aircon’s. My developer giving me 2 Aircon’s free
1hp Panasonic cspn9vkh &
2hp pnanasonic cspn18kvh

Wondering if it’s worth the top up to upgrade to these models ?
1hp inverter standard cspu9vkh &
2hp standard inverter cspu18kvh

Also, the supplier pushing the x-deluxe inverter on me .
Any benefits over the standard inverter ?

My priority good cooling and energy saving. Don’t care much fir air purifying stuffs
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How much more it cost to top up for 1hp and 2 hp ?

Project pricing is much much lower than normal market pricing. If is 50% or more to market pricing, in my opinion is not worth it.

Anyway, the decision is yours.

Energy savings ?..... will leave it to the experts to comment.


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post Apr 28 2021, 02:46 PM

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Depends on how often you will use the A/C and how well insulated your house is.

If your area is well insulated, you will probably need to use less A/C and maybe non-inverter is suffice.

If you plan to use >8 hours a day especially during WFH times, just get inverters model and make sure it's a 5*. Set to 26C and you are ready to go.
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QUOTE(zero88 @ Apr 28 2021, 12:01 PM)
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@ceo684 the local taiko

Nubis kubis here asking for opinion on 2 Panasonic Aircon’s. My developer giving me 2 Aircon’s free
1hp Panasonic cspn9vkh &
2hp pnanasonic cspn18kvh

Wondering if it’s worth the top up to upgrade to these models ?
1hp inverter standard cspu9vkh &
2hp standard inverter cspu18kvh

Also, the supplier pushing the x-deluxe inverter on me .
Any benefits over the standard inverter ?

My priority good cooling and energy saving. Don’t care much fir air purifying stuffs
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Well, pricewise if you have a small delta then I will reco going for the CSPU inverter.
Between FOC vs 200
And the shopee diff maybe 800 vs 1300
Coz non inverter energy saving at best is 3 star ST.

Inverter only start saving once it reach target temp ya. So the question is what is ur usual AC temp setting.
If u run target temp 25 to 27C yes can see good saving
If u run AC as freezer 16C no need inverter. It take forever to reach 16C target.

Inverter less stuffy when running in slow mode, than non inverter stopped.

Deluxe inverter more to additional nanoe nanoex which to me is nice to haves. Not must have.
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post Apr 29 2021, 11:33 AM

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hi all sifus,I 've read through this post and is looking at the Sharp AHX9VED2 ,so I went to a Expo exhibition last weekend ,almost all the aircon seller were shocked by me asking for Sharp ,they strongly advised me to not go for Sharp
Reasons:
1. Sharp is going to close down
2. All OEM products (aircons)
3. Terrible aftersales service from their/customer experiences(This is the first thing they mentioned whenever I bring up the Sharp brand)

Anyone can share some insight?Is Sharp really that bad?
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post Apr 29 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(keisan12 @ Apr 29 2021, 11:33 AM)
hi all sifus,I 've read through  this post and is looking at the Sharp AHX9VED2 ,so I went to a Expo exhibition  last weekend ,almost all the aircon seller were shocked by me asking for Sharp ,they strongly advised me to not go for Sharp
Reasons:
1. Sharp is going to close down
2. All OEM products (aircons)
3. Terrible aftersales service from their/customer experiences(This is the first thing they mentioned whenever I bring up the Sharp brand)

Anyone can share some insight?Is Sharp really that bad?
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Different customers have different experieces with CS. If you like to try the brand, just go for it ...afterall is personal preference. It takes to own their product to know about the co and their level of after sales service.
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post Apr 29 2021, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(keisan12 @ Apr 29 2021, 11:33 AM)
hi all sifus,I 've read through  this post and is looking at the Sharp AHX9VED2 ,so I went to a Expo exhibition  last weekend ,almost all the aircon seller were shocked by me asking for Sharp ,they strongly advised me to not go for Sharp
Reasons:
1. Sharp is going to close down
2. All OEM products (aircons)
3. Terrible aftersales service from their/customer experiences(This is the first thing they mentioned whenever I bring up the Sharp brand)

Anyone can share some insight?Is Sharp really that bad?
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I am using sharp inverter. The ac is good and cooling. So far used for 5 years still work well.
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post Apr 29 2021, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 28 2021, 03:23 PM)
Well, pricewise if you have a small delta then I will reco going for the CSPU inverter.
Between FOC vs 200
And the shopee diff maybe 800 vs 1300
Coz non inverter energy saving at best is 3 star ST.

Inverter only start saving once it reach target temp ya. So the question is what is ur usual AC temp setting.
If u run target temp 25 to 27C yes can see good saving
If u run AC as freezer 16C no need inverter. It take forever to reach 16C target.

Inverter less stuffy when running in slow mode, than non inverter stopped.

Deluxe inverter more to additional nanoe nanoex which to me is nice to haves. Not must have.
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Hi, can I check with you if price diff only RM280 for 1HP and 1.5HP for this model Panasonic Inverter R32 X-Deluxe Air Conditioner CS-XPU13WKH-1, makes sense to go for 1.5HP even for small room? I plan to have my master bedroom and my TV room installed with this 1.5hp. According to my installer, higher hp actually saves power. Not sure not true this is as he argued will reach my desired temp faster.
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QUOTE(joeblow @ Apr 29 2021, 11:57 PM)
Hi, can I check with you if price diff only RM280 for 1HP and 1.5HP for this model Panasonic Inverter R32 X-Deluxe Air Conditioner CS-XPU13WKH-1, makes sense to go for 1.5HP even for small room? I plan to have my master bedroom and my TV room installed with this 1.5hp. According to my installer, higher hp actually saves power. Not sure not true this is as he argued will reach my desired temp faster.
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1st thing is..you must understand the 1.5 is not really a true 1.5hp.
It is more to a 1.3hp.
Why this is so>
because 9k Btu class = so called 1hp.
12k btu class = so called 1.5hp but its only 33pc more btu cooling capacity than 1.0 so its more like a so called 1.3hp.
The big jump to 18k btu class = so called 2hp.

SMALL ROOM
So if the room is tiny (defined as after putting the bed in, there is not much space to walk around)..1hp will be sufficient as typically heat load only 5k or 6k btu. Perfect for 9k btu AC.
If the room is top floor of DSL landed or west sun facing (meaning the wall radiate alot of heat into the room) where without aircon your room is hot like sauna then skip to 12k btu AC directly.

It also depend on your usage pattern.
If you set to 25-27C then it will be sufficiently covered with 9k btu class.
If you like to run it 16C freezer then skip to 12k btu class.


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BIG ROOM
If the room is big enough to fit 2x double beds and still have space to squeeze in a small yoga class (with few mats) then this is a big room and is best served with a 12k btu AC.

Higher hp 1.5 does not always save power if the AC is properly sized for 1hp. The correct sizing of the AC to room size + heat load is important.
However if the room is so big that the 1hp is struggling at maximum load (inefficient EER turbo mode) then a 1.5hp will save power because it can operate in normal EER range (efficient range).

A big 2hp for a tiny room will still consume more power than a 1hp if both have achieved target temp and running slow mode.
Just like a viva idling in traffic jam vs a camry in traffic jam.. both doing nothing but idling in jam only.. the camry being 2L car will always use more fuel.

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For small room size the aircond run for short while to easily achieve target temp..so if the extra cooling not required it will be 20pc cheaper to run 1.0hp than an overpowered 1.5 for small room.

If the 1.0 can cool it down pretty fast in 40min then u can say after the initial cooling work it just maintain slow mode @ 225W for another 7h20 = 1649Wh

If 1.5hp maybe it cool down in 20min after that minimum it work @ 275W for another 7h30 = 2062Wh

Assuming u run 8hrs to sleep lah. Then the 1.0 will have saving of 50W per hour if it is very light load like maintaining temperature.


This was a spec comparison for another forumer, between the X-Deluxe Pana models which will give a representation of how it works between 1.0 and 1.5
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Between the 1.0 and 1.3 (1.5 is actually 1.3)
If the room is tiny and there is no space to walk around the bed then 1.0 should be enough, especially if its not evening sun-heated.
If the room is bigger i.e. can put 2 double beds and still have lots of space to walk around OR if its a west-facing sun room OR its the upper floor of a double storey then 1.5 better.

Coz in terms of power consumption as you have an inverter, both are quite economical to operate slowly
btu of 1.0 9,680 (3,070-11,600)
btu of 1.5 12,500 (3,480-14,000)
at the low end (slow mode) difference only ~10pc / 3xx btu

Power range
1.0 730 (225-1,030)W
1.5 990 (275-1,160)W
They cannot make it too slow otherwise the gas/liquid unable to flow back to the other side properly. so there will be a bit of power consumption increase in the 1.5 vs 1.0 when both are in slowest possible mode.

EER rating higher is better
1.0 13.26 (13.64-11.26) EER (min-max) Btu/hW
1.5 12.63 (12.65-12.07) EER (min-max) Btu/hW

Generally from EER perspective
when in slow mode ie already achieved target temp, the 1.0 is super efficient, 1.5 slow mode is very efficient,
when working hard the 1.0 NOT so efficient (11 EER is average), 1.5 still good (12 EER)
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QUOTE(keisan12 @ Apr 29 2021, 12:33 PM)
hi all sifus,I 've read through  this post and is looking at the Sharp AHX9VED2 ,so I went to a Expo exhibition  last weekend ,almost all the aircon seller were shocked by me asking for Sharp ,they strongly advised me to not go for Sharp
Reasons:
1. Sharp is going to close down
2. All OEM products (aircons)
3. Terrible aftersales service from their/customer experiences(This is the first thing they mentioned whenever I bring up the Sharp brand)

Anyone can share some insight?Is Sharp really that bad?
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1. Sharp has been in malaysia for years . they have generally good reliable products.
the service center /parts is in subang jaya and low yat plaza. for KV .

2. manufactured by foxconn , but the design is from sharp jp.
foxconn is a major share holder in Sharp.

3. Not true .. aftersales service experience is OK .

Sharp Aircond can consider anytime . thumbsup.gif
if you look in shopee is one best selling AC .


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post Apr 30 2021, 03:27 PM

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ok, thanks all for your input biggrin.gif
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Anyone know where to buy this Sharp 2 HP model, AHXP18YMD, online? Can't seem to find in LZD or Shopee. Seems to be a new model
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Apr 30 2021, 06:15 PM)
Anyone know where to buy this Sharp 2 HP model, AHXP18YMD, online? Can't seem to find in LZD or Shopee. Seems to be a new model
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Can ask your neighbourhood electrical store or find a few online store to put listing.. those dealers can order as necessary 1.
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How is Sharp air cond reliability compared to say Daikin/Mitsubishi? I'm composting these 3 brands for my air Cond replacement

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Apr 30 2021, 10:50 PM)
Can ask your neighbourhood electrical store or find a few online store to put listing.. those dealers can order as necessary 1.
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