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Galaxy Angel
post Aug 28 2015, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 28 2015, 04:10 PM)
No issue, the outdoor condenser is proper design for expose to sun, just some cheap brand will be slighly getting rusty due to air, sun and dirty.

Just avoid to place at afternoon sun, the compressor will works harder to compare in cooling area.
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OK, thanks Kim Sim.

I have another more headache issue need your advise, my house already have air-con wiring, PVC piping (conceal) & copper piping (conceal) during house renovation since last year, the copper piping that I have is for normal refrigerant (R22) NOT R410a.

Now I am going to buy the new air-con and came to know most of the manufacturer already used refrigerant R410a for the air-con, my question is, is there a conversion kit or adapter out there can be used for existing R22 piping? As impossible for me to hack and install the new piping again just for refrigerant R410a.

Again there for your advise.


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QUOTE(Galaxy Angel @ Aug 28 2015, 05:06 PM)
OK, thanks Kim Sim.

I have another more headache issue need your advise, my house already have air-con wiring, PVC piping (conceal) & copper piping (conceal) during house renovation since last year, the copper piping that I have is for normal refrigerant (R22) NOT R410a.

Now I am going to buy the new air-con and came to know most of the manufacturer already used refrigerant R410a for the air-con, my question is, is there a conversion kit or adapter out there can be used for existing R22 piping? As impossible for me to hack and install the new piping again just for refrigerant  R410a.

Again there for your advise.
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If that time u have consider for R410a copper pipes n now still can be use back, just need to plugging only.

At that time just pay for cheap installation fee, most likely can't use at all.

Cause use but leaking gas will be high chance
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post Aug 28 2015, 07:08 PM

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anybody here using panasonic aircond ?
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post Aug 28 2015, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 28 2015, 04:11 PM)
I got the answer Liao.

MHI compressor = MIC
ME compressor = MIJ, that is why ME more expansive
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What is MIC? Malaysian Indian Congress? MIJ?
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post Aug 28 2015, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 28 2015, 09:40 PM)
What is MIC? Malaysian Indian Congress? MIJ?
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Made in China = MIC
Made in Japan = MIJ

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post Aug 28 2015, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 28 2015, 09:42 PM)
Made in China = MIC
Made in Japan = MIJ
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Bullshit la you...hahaha laugh.gif still dream of Made in Japan?

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 28 2015, 09:43 PM)
Bullshit la you...hahaha laugh.gif still dream of Made in Japan?
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Why don't believed, all ME MEQs assembled in Thailand for the rest model, even parts still under Japan made.

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post Aug 28 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 28 2015, 09:47 PM)
Why don't believed, all ME MEQs assembled in Thailand for the rest model, even parts still under Japan made.

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post Aug 28 2015, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 28 2015, 09:55 PM)
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How bout indoor also made in Thailand?

Actually better than China lah
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post Aug 28 2015, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 28 2015, 10:12 PM)
How bout indoor also made in Thailand?

Actually better than China lah
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Don syiok sendiri la u...give me a prove the part is made in Japan. whistling.gif

Lazy to argue with you. I thought you got any true info, obviously listen from other also. As i said i did heard alot of story version regarding MHI vs MEQ, i believe none of that, not to say including yours.

Nevermind la, u go support ur MEQ la, for best quality la, made in Japan la...as long as you believe and happy. i continue with my MHI one.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 28 2015, 10:24 PM)
Don syiok sendiri la u...give me a prove the part is made in Japan. whistling.gif

Lazy to argue with you. I thought you got any true info, obviously listen from other also. As i said i did heard alot of story version regarding MHI vs MEQ, i believe none of that, not to say including yours.

Nevermind la, u go support ur MEQ la, for best quality la, made in Japan la...as long as you believe and happy. i continue with my MHI one.
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Ha ha since you had owned a ME but also never trust thier condition and quality at all.
One day MHI compressor loud like hell, then you just keep quiet only.

In Sg most of Aircons technical will be prefer on ME, cause thier design and material are better than others lah.

Anyway u shock with MHI just enjoy it.
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post Aug 28 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Aug 28 2015, 10:29 PM)
Ha ha since you had owned a ME but also never trust thier condition and quality at all.
One day MHI compressor loud like hell, then you just keep quiet only.

In Sg most of Aircons technical will be prefer on ME, cause thier design and material are better than others lah.

Anyway u shock with MHI just enjoy it.
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Why u always refer SG ppl for quality method?? I really no idea on that. SG ppl high quality lifestyle, so what they choose is high quality as well? laugh.gif You adi many times, not only once, mentioned about SG ppl preference blah blah blah to convince ppl what SG ppl choice = quality choice so we Malaysian need to follow as well? doh.gif

You also said before, SG MEQ is starmex, MY MEQ is Thailand, cut cost model, both are different quality, u are like slap you own face with your hand.

For me u are just like a MEQ promoter, u got commision one ah for so hard sell? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 28 2015, 10:36 PM)
Why u always refer SG ppl for quality method?? I really no idea on that. SG ppl high quality lifestyle, so what they choose is high quality as well? laugh.gif You adi many times, not only once, mentioned about SG ppl preference blah blah blah to convince ppl what SG ppl choice = quality choice so we Malaysian need to follow as well? doh.gif

You also said before, SG MEQ is starmex, MY MEQ is Thailand, cut cost model, both are different quality, u are like slap you own face with your hand.

For me u are just like a MEQ promoter, u got commision one ah for so hard sell? laugh.gif
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Haiya, dunno MHI pump you how much into your personal account now...

Talks like salesman too laugh.gif

Just now I had meantion already, MHI compressor are made in China, that is why u paid for cheaper, to be compare as ME lah.. ME made in Thailand does not meant 100% parts from Thailand made.

M'sia ME due too currency impact, then you pay more is common, unlike MHI some parts still under China and assembled in Thailand for packing only.

Unlike MHI condenser wires connect dunno which one to which wires, really China idea

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post Aug 28 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 28 2015, 12:12 PM)
I bought 1.5k+ for that. However mine is premium model, is u put 1 step down to deluxe model, only 1.4k, which still feature richer than MEQ non-deluxe model.
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Hi Sifu,if compare your mhi deluxe inverter to samsung inverter AR09JVFSB which one will be more energy saving and durable?thanks
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QUOTE(jimmy lai @ Aug 28 2015, 10:51 PM)
Hi Sifu,if compare your mhi deluxe inverter to samsung inverter AR09JVFSB which one will be more energy saving and durable?thanks
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I don know. I never compare between that.
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post Aug 28 2015, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(jimmy lai @ Aug 28 2015, 10:51 PM)
Hi Sifu,if compare your mhi deluxe inverter to samsung inverter AR09JVFSB which one will be more energy saving and durable?thanks
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I believe LG Artcool mirror more energy saving, cause thier 1hp just 600w only
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post Aug 29 2015, 12:49 AM

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I used almost all major brands for my various projects. Most with the purchase order to the distributor which above RM100k to RM12mil.

What I can said is forget about LG. Their A/C spare parts are hopeless and they are not responsible at all. Just simply pulled out from the market even we have issued PO to them and never give a shit on warranty since they already pulled out from the market. The art cool FCU is actually OEM by Media if not mistaken. The 600w they claim might based on "korean" standard. But we have a 1hp free by LG installed in our office so far still ok and the outdoor coil is full aluminium. Means you can't patch the coil once leak.

ME equipments in Malaysia is made in Thailand (I'm using in one of my on going project around Mid Valley).

MHI is also made in Thailand (I have lunch with their dealer on Tuesday and we have 2 on going projects using their equipments)

The photo kimsim posted is a 3.5hp multi split for Singapore market. Not common in Malaysia.

Advice for those using R22 piping but want to consider to use R410A equipments. I'll say 1hp is no problem. 1.5hp and 2hp is risky. The weakest parts is the flare join for indoor and outdoor. That short parts just use thicker pipe (R410A spec) then braze to the old pipe will do.

Singaporean is rich they don't mind to pay more for their A/C, because they can save back from their elec bill. Malaysia electricity is still relatively cheaper, no point we spend too much, end of the day we might not be able to get back the ROI (return of investment).



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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Aug 29 2015, 12:49 AM)
I used almost all major brands for my various projects. Most with the purchase order to the distributor which above RM100k to RM12mil.

What I can said is forget about LG. Their A/C spare parts are hopeless and they are not responsible at all. Just simply pulled out from the market even we have issued PO to them and never give a shit on warranty since they already pulled out from the market. The art cool FCU is actually OEM by Media if not mistaken. The 600w they claim might based on "korean" standard. But we have a 1hp free by LG installed in our office so far still ok and the outdoor coil is full aluminium. Means you can't patch the coil once leak.

ME equipments in Malaysia is made in Thailand (I'm using in one of my on going project around Mid Valley).

MHI is also made in Thailand (I have lunch with their dealer on Tuesday and we have 2 on going projects using their equipments)

The photo kimsim posted is a 3.5hp multi split for Singapore market. Not common in Malaysia.

Advice for those using R22 piping but want to consider to use R410A equipments. I'll say 1hp is no problem. 1.5hp and 2hp is risky. The weakest parts is the flare join for indoor and outdoor. That short parts just use thicker pipe (R410A spec) then braze to the old pipe will do.

Singaporean is rich they don't mind to pay more for their A/C, because they can save back from their elec bill. Malaysia electricity is still relatively cheaper, no point we spend too much, end of the day we might not be able to get back the ROI (return of investment).
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Yes, this is what i know as well from the forum i visited and seller i deal with...only got ppl die die want to say made in China. whistling.gif
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Ha ha someone never get know interior what happening, what is why claim on fully Thailand made, just assemble parts and packing in Thailand only.

Pay so cheap don't thing they can offer such good thing.
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chill guys , no need to argue ... it would be endless

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