Anyway if wanna cold and same setting from Pana vs Daikin Ga inverter from Daikin for sure is winner
Aircon Discussion V3, Home Appliance
Aircon Discussion V3, Home Appliance
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Jul 7 2015, 07:04 AM
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Anyway if wanna cold and same setting from Pana vs Daikin Ga inverter from Daikin for sure is winner
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Jul 7 2015, 07:42 AM
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Jul 7 2015, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 7 2015, 07:42 AM) Daikin GA still the best unlike Daikin Thailand for fan blower cannot be remove out, may dismantle the whole casing down for spray with water or chemical wash.Even MHI to be same design too. See how dusty for Daikin Thailand ![]() Can be remove out for wash on each time can be save the trouble also save cost for maintenace too Below this pic is taken from York inverter ![]() ![]() |
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Jul 7 2015, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(Jason @ Jul 7 2015, 02:24 AM) Save power but not cold. What for? I'll definitely buy inverter for my usage, but not Panasonic inverters. Which model u recommend? i havent buy yet one, shop recommend me ME and PanasonicOf course, compared to most people, I'm damn hot. We all have different tolerance for temperature. I cannot tahan panas. Just don't cry and say not cold after you buy Panasonic Inverter. |
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Jul 7 2015, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Jul 6 2015, 06:23 PM) one was the first generation Panasonic aircond with ionizer back in 2001 and another was just 2 years ago. deluxe non inverter with econavi. for both, i spent close to 1k on repairs. enough to buy me another aircond. but what cheese me off is the poor technical support these days once ur aircond is over 1 year old. Panasonic gives u numbers to call and arrange yourself third party to come to repair. first number that i called, told me they're full for the next 3 weeks! second number that i called told me they don't service my area! wtf. i had to call back Panasonic and then they gave me two more numbers to call. 'fantastic' service No warranty???Dont know about you but mine is 5 years warranty on both Compressor and Electronics... QUOTE(Jason @ Jul 7 2015, 02:24 AM) Save power but not cold. What for? I'll definitely buy inverter for my usage, but not Panasonic inverters. The Cooling is not that bad compare others.... it is not blowing HOT air laaa... just that the cooling performance is +/- 15 min vs others thats all... not like it will not cool your room at all... if you have the latest Panasonic with iAutoX (their so called TURBO mode) it has no difference as it has a boost mode that make the compressor spin faster for a short period of time to cool it down (if not mistaken 1hr turbo) it make no difference for me unless you are using old Model laaaOf course, compared to most people, I'm damn hot. We all have different tolerance for temperature. I cannot tahan panas. Just don't cry and say not cold after you buy Panasonic Inverter. QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jul 6 2015, 10:16 PM) Sorry to say, Pana and Sharp were the struggling company at the moment, especially Pana, the group is too huge, they step into too many sectors. But ask yourself, which area/sector Pana is the no.1 now? Heater? We know Joven and Alpha. Washer? We know Electrolux. Display? You know Sony, Sharp, Samsung. Fridge? We know sharp, Toshiba, LG. I only can name Panasonic in my 1st mind for ceiling fan (although alot of complaint for their remote and Bayu series) and stand fan, what else? It present in all categories, but the performance is not outstanding, and the price is premium. Until now you already can guess why Pana group record a highest financial lost in year 2013 since the Matsushita group established. Pana can survive today is mainly due to the strong foundation built by 'National' brand during 1980'-2000' era in Asia region. Reliability basically buried together with the National brand already. My father was the one who strongly support this brand during that time, that's why my hometown now still consist a 30 years old National 1HP aircond, 33 years old National fridge, 35 years old National Cassette Radio, 20 years National heater, almost 40 years National rice cooker and all these items were still perform the daily job well (Except aircond rarely open). If you say like this you are better off with Samsung and LG this 2 company is doing exceptionally great bet they Gold plate all internals QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 6 2015, 11:35 PM) Buy inverter sure because of power saving feature. Now latest inverter aircon no need 7-8hours in order to save energy? My Panasonic Inverter (iAutoX) manage to cool my room in 1 hour (max 2Hr) and start to slow down compressor and fan... I believe the energy savings start after 2Hr... vs the old Inverter.... this technology has come quite a long way...Fan sure got one, impossible open aircon 24x7x365 This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Jul 7 2015, 10:35 AM |
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Jul 7 2015, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 7 2015, 10:29 AM) No warranty??? standard warranty. one year for indoor unit and 5 for outdoor. Panasonic SOP now is.. once ur unit is more than 1 years old, they'll ask you to go call their contractors. looks like they outsource the repair work these days like Samsung. But Samsung at least will arrange the contractor to come repair unlike Panasonic who give you numbers and ask you to call yourself. this is bad customer service.Dont know about you but mine is 5 years warranty on both Compressor and Electronics... |
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Jul 7 2015, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(cedyy @ Jul 7 2015, 11:39 AM) standard warranty. one year for indoor unit and 5 for outdoor. Panasonic SOP now is.. once ur unit is more than 1 years old, they'll ask you to go call their contractors. looks like they outsource the repair work these days like Samsung. But Samsung at least will arrange the contractor to come repair unlike Panasonic who give you numbers and ask you to call yourself. this is bad customer service. My Panasonic is 5+5 (5 years compressor and 5 years Electronics) I option for additional warranty (add RM100) from SenQI only call SenQ contractor for all stuff cause they even work on weekend... Panasonic service tech only work on weekdays which add inconvenient for me... AL is precious hehehe... After 5 years if kaput just throw away and get another one... doubt any modern electronics can last 10 years now... |
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Jul 7 2015, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jul 6 2015, 06:03 PM) Yes, all manufacturer nowadays cost cutting, this is what the consumer need to know and understand rather than reject the fact due to alot of fancy features included. If the manufacturer doesn't do cost cutting nowadays, it can very soon close down already.Don't naive to believe those manufacturer will care for your electricity bill. They actually can make it more power saving by introduce a larger surface condenser, cooling coil, use higher grade aluminium fin, more fin per area and so on, rather than using smaller compressor motor. The competition is so stiff out there, a slight difference of RM10 or RM50, we can see the sales volume shift away. Consumer want cheap item, manufacturer has to give cheap one, it is business. Now everyone want something save electricity or so called "green", so manufacturer has to give what consumer want, if the manufacturer can't meet the marketing needs, the manufacturer will have hard time to sell the product and survive in business. Company nowadays need to be business orientated instead of engineering mindset, sadly to say. A sell at Rm1000 B sell at RM800. Despite with better quality part used in A, A will find hard to sell its product in a mass volume. I am in manufacturing line, I know the pain of using premium part that costumer may not appreciate at all. |
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Jul 7 2015, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 7 2015, 01:18 PM) If the manufacturer doesn't do cost cutting nowadays, it can very soon close down already. Not too right, nowadays like Miele & Bosch products still sales like hot cake.The competition is so stiff out there, a slight difference of RM10 or RM50, we can see the sales volume shift away. Consumer want cheap item, manufacturer has to give cheap one, it is business. Now everyone want something save electricity or so called "green", so manufacturer has to give what consumer want, if the manufacturer can't meet the marketing needs, the manufacturer will have hard time to sell the product and survive in business. Company nowadays need to be business orientated instead of engineering mindset, sadly to say. A sell at Rm1000 B sell at RM800. Despite with better quality part used in A, A will find hard to sell its product in a mass volume. I am in manufacturing line, I know the pain of using premium part that costumer may not appreciate at all. Even the price can kills all |
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Jul 7 2015, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 7 2015, 01:36 PM) Not too right, nowadays like Miele & Bosch products still sales like hot cake. Depend on what you are refering to Bosch laaaEven the price can kills all I uses Dyson Vacuum they sell at premium and I can bet with you their technology is top there.... will you spend RM2800 for a Dyson cordless vacuum or RM500 for Electrolux cordless... This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Jul 7 2015, 04:07 PM |
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Jul 7 2015, 04:14 PM
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Bosch washing machines actually quite competitively priced these days. Probably because most of them are Made in China now.
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Jul 7 2015, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(wdarke @ Jul 7 2015, 04:14 PM) Bosch washing machines actually quite competitively priced these days. Probably because most of them are Made in China now. Bosch made in China just a entry level only, for me I would go for Miele washer model 570 if I can.But the selling price in SGD is $2700 wow cool |
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Jul 8 2015, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jul 7 2015, 04:27 PM) Bosch made in China just a entry level only, for me I would go for Miele washer model 570 if I can. You RICH bugger can laaaaBut the selling price in SGD is $2700 wow cool we Poor fella here also in Malaysia how many folks and afford high range brand... Even I tell my friends my vac is a DYSON all them telling me I'm crazy to buy that hahaha Panasonic is not a Luxury brand and their product is not target for luxury brand they are mass market product... If you can afford a Merc S Class Good on you... but mass majority here cannot even afford a Recon C Class.... most driving Japs car or local laaa... Macam laaa all LYN here earn RM20k like you hehehe |
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Jul 8 2015, 01:54 PM
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Want to ask. Is it possible to tap the aircon power supply from a nearby power socket? It's for a new (1HP) split unit. Cos if I were to run a new one it will be very messy.
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Jul 8 2015, 02:28 PM
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Jul 8 2015, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 8 2015, 01:54 PM) Want to ask. Is it possible to tap the aircon power supply from a nearby power socket? It's for a new (1HP) split unit. Cos if I were to run a new one it will be very messy. Can provided the socket come from 1 single fuse... make sure the socket is not shared internally (Wire not split into few socket) |
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Jul 8 2015, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jul 8 2015, 04:12 PM) Can provided the socket come from 1 single fuse... make sure the socket is not shared internally (Wire not split into few socket) Unfortunately, I think this socket is being shared with another socket. It is used to power the computer.Alternatively, can I take the power from a wall light point? |
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Jul 8 2015, 07:26 PM
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Jul 8 2015, 10:17 PM
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Jul 8 2015, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jul 8 2015, 10:17 PM) my mhi just bought it. I cannot hear outdoor unit noise at all although it is put behind wall. just indoor noise quite strong because of powerful wind. very cold 1/2 hp can accommodate my 150sqft bedroom. so far satisfy. Oh no, why you really bought the cute MHI model??I can't tahan to keep laughing now |
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