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weng-aircon
post Mar 12 2016, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 11 2016, 11:54 PM)
What about 720sf, main door facing east?
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2.5hp should be sufficient depending on the location to install the FCU. In a living hall? In a room or dining. If the area is covered with wall 2.0hp should be enough. If is a open area then I suggest you go for higher hp 2.5hp
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post Mar 12 2016, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 10 2016, 02:49 PM)
daikin ac, the exterior part, why not printed as Daikin but only shown Eco King?
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It was York
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post Mar 12 2016, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 10 2016, 02:55 PM)
price ok for daikin ac below?

basic wall mount unit (non-inverter, with compressor, with r410, 1yr warranty on unit, 5yr warranty on compressor) exclusive labor charges:

2.5hp RM2555.00
1.5hp RM1200.00
1.0hp RM923.00
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Mitsubishi electric is slightly higher price with longer warranty period.
Parts - 2 years
Compressor - 7 years.
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post Mar 13 2016, 12:40 PM

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Guys, what is the best inverter air-con to get now? My room size is 14' x 14' x 9', so I guess the appropriate HP is 1.5?
weng-aircon
post Mar 13 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 13 2016, 12:40 PM)
Guys, what is the best inverter air-con to get now? My room size is 14' x 14' x 9', so I guess the appropriate HP is 1.5?
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There's is no best inverter air con in the market.

Just like you purchase a hybrid car. Which hybrid is the best to save fuel.
Prius, crz, A6 hybrid or even the high class S400 hybrid.
These are just price difference. There's no such if you bought a car that will never breakdown. Depends how you use them, how often you carry out servicing maintenance.

It's really depends on what spec you need. The function fit your requirements? Do you need those functions? Different air con comes with different functions etc ionizer, eye sensor, quiet mode bla bla..

This post has been edited by weng-aircon: Mar 13 2016, 08:05 PM
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post Mar 13 2016, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 11 2016, 03:59 PM)
Panasonic got new model called Sky series




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In the market already?
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post Mar 13 2016, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 13 2016, 08:51 PM)
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should be, got pricing - http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...onditioner.html
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post Mar 13 2016, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(weng-aircon @ Mar 13 2016, 08:04 PM)
There's is no best inverter air con in the market.

Just like you purchase a hybrid car. Which hybrid is the best to save fuel.
Prius, crz, A6 hybrid or even the high class S400 hybrid.
These are just price difference. There's no such if you bought a car that will never breakdown. Depends how you use them, how often you carry out servicing maintenance.

It's really depends on what spec you need. The function fit your requirements?  Do you need those functions? Different air con comes with different functions etc ionizer, eye sensor, quiet mode bla bla..
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Noted. So I rephrase my question, under 2k, which air-con is the best bang for buck? I only need it to cool quickly and save electricity.
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post Mar 13 2016, 09:29 PM

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My 1.5hp inverter panasonic aircond (year 2013) not really make the living hall feels cold. Guess it is underpower (we should get 2hp, but then my dad cheapskate)...

So now we're looking for a new aircond, 2 - 2.5hp, for the renovated living room. Will try new brand this time, if there is any good offer.

Daikin, mitsubishi, sharp, which one is affordable (not too expensive just like the new panasonic elite series), durable (can last longer) and easy to maintain? Also, very cold one..

Thanks
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post Mar 13 2016, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(z800r @ Mar 13 2016, 09:29 PM)
My 1.5hp inverter panasonic aircond (year 2013) not really make the living hall feels cold.  Guess it is underpower (we should get 2hp, but then my dad cheapskate)...

So now we're looking for a new aircond, 2 - 2.5hp, for the renovated living room. Will try new brand this time, if there is any good offer.

Daikin, mitsubishi, sharp, which one is affordable (not too expensive just like the new panasonic elite series), durable (can last longer) and easy to maintain? Also, very cold one..

Thanks
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Panasonic still have premium inverter series. Price at RM 2,998.00.

Daikin OK. Good if installed by professional technician.
Mitsubishi expensive.
Sharp is a bit not nice design.
weng-aircon
post Mar 14 2016, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Mar 13 2016, 08:56 PM)
Noted. So I rephrase my question, under 2k, which air-con is the best bang for buck? I only need it to cool quickly and save electricity.
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Which HP you looking for? 2k budget can get a 1.5hp inverter + installation and have few hundred to get back.

Inverters doesnt cool down quickly. Same goes to other brands. It takes time to cool down the area but once cool down the area. You'll feel the cooling consistent coming out from the FCU which will maintain the cooling by setting the temperature.

At the end.. it still depends on what spec you need.

I will reckon panasonic.
weng-aircon
post Mar 14 2016, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(z800r @ Mar 13 2016, 09:29 PM)
My 1.5hp inverter panasonic aircond (year 2013) not really make the living hall feels cold.  Guess it is underpower (we should get 2hp, but then my dad cheapskate)...

So now we're looking for a new aircond, 2 - 2.5hp, for the renovated living room. Will try new brand this time, if there is any good offer.

Daikin, mitsubishi, sharp, which one is affordable (not too expensive just like the new panasonic elite series), durable (can last longer) and easy to maintain? Also, very cold one..

Thanks
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Before this does your air con feels cold after installed? If it is maybe it needs to carry out servicing. Or there's some parts faulty need to be replace. Please seek for professional technician to have it checked.

Note if your inverter FCU is under powered. The compressor will spin at high rpm to achieve the cooling you need. When you set temperature at 18 - 16°c the compressor will non stop running at high speed. Since your FCU is under powered and the living hall is huge is no point installing a inverter cause it doesn't save electricity. Do you agree? Cause your FCU doesn't cool down the area at all.

Inverter system will always runs at high speed when you turned on. Once the area achieve the temperature the indoor thermistor will send a signal to the outdoor to ask the compressor rotate at medium speed or even low. That's how it works! How it save current. It only save current when the compressor rotating low speed when you use a longer period. If you use 2 - 3 hours is no point install inverter.
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post Mar 14 2016, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Mar 13 2016, 08:51 PM)
In the market already?
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It is in the market. Selling lower price than what panasonic posted at their website. Seek for panasonic dealer. It's cheaper than 200 - 300
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post Mar 14 2016, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(weng-aircon @ Mar 14 2016, 12:24 AM)
Which HP you looking for? 2k budget can get a 1.5hp inverter + installation and have few hundred to get back.

Inverters doesnt cool down quickly. Same goes to other brands. It takes time to cool down the area but once cool down the area. You'll feel the cooling consistent coming out from the FCU which will maintain the cooling by setting the temperature.

At the end.. it still depends on what spec you need.

I will reckon panasonic.
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For Panasonic inverter aircond, what is the difference between iAutoX and cool setting?

I find that iAutoX will stop everything at some point and the room feels warm where else cool setting will give me constant cooling through 11 hours.
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post Mar 14 2016, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ Mar 14 2016, 07:34 AM)
For Panasonic inverter aircond, what is the difference between iAutoX and cool setting?

I find that iAutoX will stop everything at some point and the room feels warm where else cool setting will give me constant cooling through 11 hours.
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Is just like switch on powerful mode. Note everything will goes auto. You need to set back to normal mode once it cools down the area.
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QUOTE(weng-aircon @ Mar 14 2016, 12:38 AM)
It is in the market. Selling lower price than what panasonic posted at their website. Seek for panasonic dealer. It's cheaper than 200 - 300
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Hi, the SKY Series is expensive. You need to ask customer who installed before and try before first time and later you can install.
After installed, some customer will complain new one no good and later they feel like wasted.
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QUOTE(weng-aircon @ Mar 14 2016, 10:16 AM)
Is just like switch on powerful mode. Note everything will goes auto. You need to set back to normal mode once it cools down the area.
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Hi, in iAutoX mode.
iAUTO-X will automatically switch fan speed to high fan speed and super high fan speed depending on the temperature
difference between the room and the set temperature.
Low Speed --> Medium Speed --> High Fan Speed --> Super High Fan Speed.
iAUTO-X cools you down 35% faster compared to Panasonic Standard non-Inverter model with high fan.
After max 4 hours, the set temperature is shifted according to AUTO COMFORT activity detection.

This post has been edited by TXSim: Mar 14 2016, 11:30 AM
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post Mar 14 2016, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(weng-aircon @ Mar 14 2016, 12:24 AM)
Which HP you looking for? 2k budget can get a 1.5hp inverter + installation and have few hundred to get back.

Inverters doesnt cool down quickly. Same goes to other brands. It takes time to cool down the area but once cool down the area. You'll feel the cooling consistent coming out from the FCU which will maintain the cooling by setting the temperature.

At the end.. it still depends on what spec you need.

I will reckon panasonic.
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1.5HP. I asked around, Daikin inverter include installation is RM1880 and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries with installation is ~RM2100. As I browse through this thread, am I correct to say that MHI > Daikin > Panasonic?
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post Mar 14 2016, 12:16 PM

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Sifu..

Wanna ask can a Different Brand indoor fix with different Brand Outdoor unit with same HP?
e.g A Brand Indoor with B brand outdoor unit?
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post Mar 14 2016, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(TXSim @ Mar 14 2016, 11:16 AM)
Hi, the SKY Series is expensive. You need to ask customer who installed before and try before first time and later you can install.
After installed, some customer will complain new one no good and later they feel like wasted.
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Haha. I hope this series won't happen like previous model Panasonic o2 and Irobot. Air coming out from the top will makes any difference? Selling price also like sky high for 1.5hp.

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