panasonic AC from what i heard besides parts exp, reliability is an issue also

so its not worth the price premium versus other brands

Previously im using non inverter panasonic, twice repaired, the last one compressor issue.. End up bought daikin

Few days ago my Hitachi AC (1.0HP Inverter - XE10CC) started to blow hot air only.
Technician found out the outdoor unit fan longer work, he only able to clean AC unit but not repair / fix it.
Hitachi Customer Service said they no longer have the PCB / motor fan for my model as it over 10 years, they suggested me to bring over the motor fan to Service Center (Bangi), then they can check to find any compatible mode from their stock. :/

Anyway... CFO think it's better to get new AC unit - thinking of change to 1.5HP Inverter instead.
I'm surprise to see there are different China brand AC in M'sia market, the price are attractive plus the warranty provided - like AUX, CHIQ and TCL (other than Gree, Haier, Hisense & Midea).

The new AC should run around 8 hours daily, prefer reliable + plenty of spare-parts + fast cooling + budget within 1.8K to 2.5K (can get lesser better lah).
Below model are based on my finding, any suggestion?

- JPN >> Daikin (FTKU35BV1MF), Hitachi (RAS-XH13CKM), Mitsubishi Electric (MSY-JS13VF), Sharp (AHXP13YMD), Panasonic (CS-KU12AKH-1).
- Local >> Acson (A3WMY15BF)
- CHN >> AUX (AS-12MER3DI), Haier (HSU-13VRA), Hisense (AI13TUGS), Midea (MSEPB-13CRFN8)

want to ask about the relative height position for air cond outdoor unit, with reference to indoor unit. should it be higher or lower? I've searched online and found different answers.

what brand has good reliability. I'm also tired of Panasonic.

my common finding on Panasonic: failed capacitor. I think all Panasonic that I have encountered. I just buy the same farad rating and replace.

This post has been edited by Skylinestar: Dec 11 2024, 12:20 PM

i heard Daikin and Mitsubishi so far from this thread are good

Honestly I never had any problem with my ac. Samsung inverter used for 6 years, hitachi non inverter used for 10 years. The only reason I changed them is because power consumption.

Acson / Daikin is your best bet
Made in Malaysia

My concealed 2.5hp York made in 2009 still got spare parts.

My view is you either go the cheapest route with China TCL or AUX, use and dispose when time comes. Or go all the way with Acson / Daikin. TCL and AUX may seem like no brand but in China they sell many units — not as much as Midea, Gree and Haier, but because that market is 1 billion population, still way more than what Acson sells here.

I have TCL, Hisense, Haier, Midea, Mitsubishi Electric, Panasonic, York cooling king and Daikin before they bought Acson.

I would avoid Panasonic like the plague. Used to be good. TCL is my latest acquisition — have yet to use it, renovating the condo. Midea inverter I had 1 failed out of 3 units.

Popular brands will have better chances of spare parts — Korean brands not very popular. Or in the case of TCL / AUX, it is almost half as cheap as an Acson so just pakai buang.

I posted in this thread several times that Panasonic is not cold but power saving, why never research before buying? lol.

I don’t know why anybody want to install air con that is not cold and power saving. Want to save power just use fan. I hate my Panasonic inverter with passion because it doesn’t do what I want it to do because no matter what it just wants to save power lol.

My Hisense non inverter will blow you until you become iceman if you set max fan and low temperature.

Thanks for the feedback... yes I'm not getting Panasonic this time after read through the feedback in this thread, also I'm not a fan of Korean brand AC too.
Spoke with AC guy I got to know, his response:
- Not to get newer batch of Daikin AC as it no longer as reliable as older model.
- Hisense have issue with after sales service due to lack of technician due to big sales, also his client sold 4 units and three have issues.
- Panasonic not cold as other but good in energy efficiency
- Hitachi seems like no longer in AC business, only limited number model available.
- (**Forgot to address) Sharp is good but smaller outdoor unit compare to other brand, if you don't mind it keep running go ahead with it.
- Now market more toward China brand AC due to pricing... suggest me to get Haier VRA model instead (can get around RM1.6K+ plus installation)

This post has been edited by soyusa: Dec 12 2024, 11:06 AM

Coldness is I think subjective, also depends on house insulation/room size/how tightly sealed your doors and windows are, and how many ° of coldness you prefer

If your room is "leaky" type with big gaps around the doors, or face a lot of sun without heat rejection filter, Panasonic inverter especially will struggle to cool. If you want 16°C temp then don't even think about inverter.

My bedroom with solid door that are flush to floor + installed window film with high heat rejection, my Panasonic inverter can maintain at comfortable 23°C without consuming a lot of electricity.

Daikin and Acson are the best AC brands so far in my opinion.

My real world experience from working in a data centre environment. They have a mix of airconds from Daikin and Acson which are running 24 / 7 for 365 days non stop alternating between Unit A and B each day.

You are talking about older model of Daikin or newer model?

This post has been edited by YoungMan: Dec 12 2024, 04:15 PM

Base model inverter from Acson, Daikin.

They change the airconds every five years. Current one was installed few years back.

Correct — Sharp outdoor unit is smaller so it is suitable when space is an issue. If it’s not an issue I would skip Sharp.

Haier is a big company with own manufacturing. I’ve got 4 units of basic 1 hp circa ~2017. One unit had a capacitor failed, changed and it was good as usual. Last year got a 1hp Haier inverter to replace my Midea inverter that kaput… problem with lousy installer. After an Acson trained technician fixed it, all good. Unless Haier is cheaper, I would choose Acson over it.

Hisense == Hitachi. They have a JV and shared a factory. Not sure what’s the latest. But again, don’t bother. You want a Hitachi just buy Hisense — I have 4 of these cheapest basic non inverter, cold AF!

Well, I always preach either go big or go cheap. Don’t go in between. And frankly for my own use where reliability is important it’s Acson, otherwise it’ll be whatever cheap China manufacturer I can get my hands on at that time. Which explains why I have so many different brands.

Subjective your head. I use a thermometer in every room. Temperature is an absolute number.

My 2hp non inverter Hisense in an open space 25 feet wide & 45 feet long and open to upstairs staircase. Versus my 2hp inverter top of the line Panasonic in master bedroom. You turn on both units at the same time, max out the setting on remote, and sit in front of the ac at exact same distance, the Hisense will blow you to Antarctica in 10 minutes. Panasonic? Slowly wait. I-autoX my foot. The Panasonic will catch up in another 10 minutes or depending on its mood.

Leak your head. You use Panasonic, that’s why coldness subjective to you. Cause it’s never cold when you compare to other brands.

outdoor unit must be lower.

The reason I mentioned about Panasonic not that cold - I have three units of Panasonic Inverter AC (1HP + 1HP + 2HP), installed few years ago.
All my room are properly seal to avoid air leak and set temperature at 25 Celcius only.
Hitachi AC is in the room easily expose to sunlight during the day (easily get warm at noon) while another two rooms with Panasonic AC expose lesser sunlight (remain cool during day).
Compare both Hitachi and Panasonic - we prefer Hitachi AC as it can keep the room cold easily during day and night, way better than Panasonic AC unit.

Thanks for the feedback about Haier, Midea and Acson.
For the Hisense... I think better get Haier for better warranty coverage (3+10) and the price not that far.

As far as I know Hitachi Malaysia offer two newer model - AirHome 100 and AirHome 300 (not sure whether MY made or not).
The other Hitachi AC models are old stock, confirmed MY made.

Then go for the Haier, pay a bit more get longer warranty why not. Haier service also good — I called them and they send aircon man to inspect and tell me problem wasn’t the aircon it was the installation.

Lazada/Shopee have seasonal sales and sometimes you can score it cheap. The cheapest 1HP basic AC I got was RM4xx delivered. TCL.

But as always, installer is more important, using the right sized copper, wire, and properly align it.

My Haier inverter was installed incorrectly and was leaking water into the wall. “Fixed” by the original installer and still leak — he claimed the aircon too low, need to cut my plaster ceiling and move up. But moved already still fked. End up had to call qualified technician. Nowadays clown also can call themselves aircon service man.

Old hitachi? R410A?

I also had one non inverter hitachi 1HP which I later moved from my bedroom to living room (now replaced with LG). Cant really compare those day AC to the newer R32 ac. Im shocked to find out my 1hp hitachi outdoor unit is way bigger than my 1.5hp LG premium inverter. Imagine the surface area advantage it had compared to newer ac.

I do find that the newer R32 ac cool faster but feel less cold compared to the old R410A ac. After changing my ac to save power consumption, I find myself needing just a tiny blanket to feel comfortable at 26C whereas I needed something thicker with the old R410A ac at the same setting.