wazup ?

no more ngai... the debate moved to RWI... here fellowship only

too many sins perhaps ? ... jangan marah ya Tina

Renewal Lutheran Church

Dear All,

I have been informed that renewal lutheran church is preaching grace messages, similar to new creation church. Both church related somehow to Joseph Prince.

The church website is below,
http://www.oasisofcare.org/

address in Petaling Jaya near templar street. If you know Naza car dealer in Lebuhraya persekutuan, then it's there.

lol... can you forgive me wakakakka.... ?

no you are not blunt.. thx to be frank anyway,

imo not all of them from oral roberst (especially the indonesian preachers one...)

1. td jakes not from oral roberts.

2. ps petrus agung also not from oral roberts:
http://revivalistjoe.blogspot.com/2012/07/...urnomo-jki.html

3. ev Iin Tjipto also not from oral roberts:
http://www.mediainjilkerajaan.com/profil-h...a/ev-iin-tjipto

4. last but not least... Kong Hee also not from oral roberts

If Christ return on 14-09-2015... then poor lah those atheist, who that thinks they can bully me in WWJD thread or simple-dude tread... enjoying devil bully them in hell oso not so good imo...

This post has been edited by de1929: Aug 19 2015, 09:37 AM

i know.. i know... i am doing my part...

i can't guarantee that all those atheist will accept Christ, but i can guarantee i tried my best in those threads.

Hey bro... i would appreciate if you join the brawl in the WWJD thread... any rules boleh... just follow GOD's lead...

Zozi... this is a christian thread, another thread fyi. I am very sure they can answer your question.

I have to be frank with you, some people really exhaust me in WWJD thread (where you post ur question earliers) and give me little energy left .

i believe in team work, therefore some ppl here sure can answers your questions.

@all bro n sis here, kindly help and many thanks.

Your sin already forgiven past, present, future, hence no more condemnation. Is that good enough to start a meaningful and happy life ? or do you think i am delusional ?

i follow what UW says lah in this comment, in case UW does not want to comment ... then his preaching on gospel of grace is highly questsionable.

In addition to my reply earlier, take a look at this youtube, started at hour 1:00:00, exactly 1 hour from the beginning.

imagine how a smoker, with desire to free from sin (aka meaningful / happy life), has to dealt with smoking habits.

In this youtube jp explains step-by-step process, how the smoker commit future sin (aka smoking) without condemnation, because the smoker declare simply: By YOUR righteousness i am free; then smoke, then declare, then smoke, then declare... until 1 day the smoker simply does not want to smoke anymore.

you can call me bro

Thx deadlocks for sharing, allow me to borrow your reply. To readers here, allow me to share some points that GOD put in my heart: to experience sonder cannot replace GOD's wisdom. so the blue part represents mindset issues, but i have to admit without GOD helping me i can't describe what's missing.

my existence is to become a blessing in others, to invest in people. Therefore i need GOD's wisdom. Granted that GOD sometimes allow me to go to difficult times is as much for me to understand certain things. Experience sonder can give me empathy to other people with similar background, but it does not means more sonder = more solution to others.

1.
Don't let your lack of "experiencing sonder" belittle your CHRIST or belittle your identity. because we have GOD's wisdom. We can pray: "GOD, i see this problem A,B,C,D... don't have sonder enough so how to resolve ? kindly help and in JESUS name i pray: Amen".

2.
Don't let your lack of "experiencing sonder" giving you condemnation. A condemnation you are not humble enough. We have GOD's wisdom, or at least, we can pray: "GOD, help me on my blind-spots. I maybe look humble to others, but may look insecure to others which is not good, I maybe look convincing, but may look arrogant to others also not good, kindly help and in JESUS name i pray: Amen".

If we look humble to others, it's good
If we look insecure to others, most likely CHRIST will tell me: "hey: Beef-ed up your confidence little bit. You are MY son / daugher. Act like one !"
If we look convincing, it's good
If we look arrogant, most likely CHRIST will tell us: "that's arrogant. try to adjust this..this.. that..that..".

That 4 parts above, i have to adjust on event-basis, not day-to-day, not a fixed mindset either. I have to let GOD tune me, and sometimes experience sonder in the past needs to be ignored, because different level of prosperity commands different mindset, and previous sonder might be a stumbling block.

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It's obvious that many christian is not coming from church that experience sign and wonders on a regular basis. GOD's wisdom is part of sign and wonders actually. 99% churches in Malaysia does not have sign and wonders on regular basis, hence, maybe, just go to my thread WWJD to get GODly wisdom to generate sign and wonder on personal / family level.

yes, rapture is coming on 14-9-2015 according to our fren. What can i do except repent

yes, there are a lot of sins these days. terrible days to married for you imo. just stay single but not sin better

not really. If you read bible carefully, GOD tell us to both marry and single as well.

no lah... us (we / humanity) does not mean uniformity maa.... e.g. you cannot married, but i can... example lar...

1 bible is for many people rite ? including you and me. Therefore it has to say things that GOD wants for humanity in general, which is both married and single

Dear Christian bro n sis n fren:

Please support in prayer for Chongyu so he can see:
1. the difference between under GOD's protection and without GOD's protection.
2. the difference between under GOD's provision and without GOD's provision.

many thanks, hallelujah, and in the name of JESUS, AMEN