I can understand your outburst but there are varying difference of doctrine with regards to this matter

Problem is, you are enforcing your catholic doctrine of what constitute a human life and pin condemnation on me based on that.

I think that is not fair.

I don't think we're arguing whether murder is wrong. Murder against any person is wrong but the question is,

Does an embryo/fetus constitute as a person one who can operate all the functionality of life as a human being.

Many theologian readily agree to say "I don't know" which IMO is the better judgement.

Let me ask you a question instead, what about underaged girl who got raped and got pregnant if she doesn't proceed to do abortion, she will die because her body cannot take the pregnancy process?

Are you going to tell me that's girl's life is invalidated compared to her unborn child? Since you insist on playing God so much, answer me.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 2 2015, 08:16 AM

Do you know the complications of Cesarean like Blood loss, Blood Clot, Bowels problem for a mother child who is raped?

Have you heard of a child bearing a child? 10 year old child pregnant?
How does it affect her mental state as a child?

Do you not see the traumatic problem associated with this?



Do you also know the problem of Child marriages in countries like Nigeria?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/...orced_into.html


In one case, one of the mother was so traumatised (already traumatised by the rape) forced into cesarean , wanted to commit suicide.

Do you know what is Post Traumatic Stress disorder?

BTW, that's not very nice of you to post "what false teaching" in your Catholic Thread condemning us here.

So judgemental of you as a Christian, exhibiting Holier than thou and the tone of your voice seem seems to treat me with disdain and disgust.

Some Christian you are.

I was trying to express on what grounds Obama may have supported from on abortion.

And you Flip out, quick to be judgemental and condemning, exhibiting some sort of holier than thou attitude.

Don't you think this sort of character of yours push away people from Christ?

BTW, I don't mind if you want to hide behind the excuse of "being politically-correct is not really my forte".

But if you can't answer that, retract on your statement of what "false teaching" because it doesn't qualify.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 2 2015, 03:45 PM

You can also stop your strawman fallacy, don't think anybody is even talking about (what more disagreeing) on free and easy kind of abortion.
I did mentioned on child pregnancy specifically.

I felt that, you're too quick to judge, enforcing your long tradition Catholic doctrine on abortion just to push this to a shove.

BTW, I don't mind if you want to hide behind the excuse of "being politically-correct is not really my forte".

But if you can't answer that, retract on your statement of whatever "false teaching" you're implying because we are not.

And do contemplate 1 Corinthians 13

1 If I speak in the tonguesa of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast,b but do not have love, I gain nothing.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 2 2015, 07:52 PM

The trend usually doesn't fail.

Whenever Grace of Christ is preached strongly, I noticed there are usually follow ups of attack just to divert the attention.

Much appreciated Brother.

I believe he's under bondage. Actually If you think about it, there's really no reason for the average Chinese Man to hate Christianity with such passion. I mean generally we all know there is this misunderstanding in the Chinese culture against our Faith when it comes to ancestral worship, that's where the conflict usually starts from. But his long century hatred really takes the cake. Even I'm wondering if any Christian may have accidentally knock his car or something like that.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jul 2 2015, 08:03 PM

Bruder. Do you mind?

It's not meant to be like that but since our thread is kinda of popular, it attracts jealous christian haters and atheist alike though we never invite them.

Don't mind to disclose 2 of them

BeastX and Simpletraveler.


They know very well this is a fellowship thread meant for Christians to fellowship and yet it rustle their jimmies too much.


Honestly I don't care. One more conflict from any of them and I will report to the Moderators.

Simpletarveler perhaps, beastx I don't know as I don't always sniff the other threads like it affects me as much as it affects them.

there's a new album Bro.

Love Run Red something.

Search for

Chris Tomlin Jesus loves me.

I just want to make 1 thing clear.

Non Christians and even Atheists AND even Moslems or Buddhist, Hindus, etc are welcome to join us in fellowship on the condition that you be nice to everyone.

If you have questions (genuine) for the sake of wanting to understand Christianity and not arguing for the purpose of trying to rebut our Faith (you are wrong and I am right rebuttal), you are most welcome to join and ask.

But if you think you can come here for "other" purposes, we will report you for trying to cause conflict.

Don't come in here trying to be a hero. We already know your believes or doctrine. You can argue all you want in RWI but not here.

Hope you understand.

Chris Tomlin has official youtube page, there's plenty u can search.

Jesus loves me is a very very very good song, I fell in love with it when I first heard it, many months ago.

This Man ‘Grew’ a Church From Living Trees








his living, breathing, green church is a personal project long in the making for New Zealander Barry Cox. As a deeply religious child, he aspired to be Pope one day. But a deep love of trees (his business, Treelocations, rescues and relocates them) combined with a lifelong fascination with the ecclesiastical architecture eventually led to what he calls “Tree Church”—a beautiful merger of his passions. Originally created as a place of private enjoyment for Cox and his family (it’s set right in his own backyard) Tree Church opened to the public just this year after overwhelming interest from friends, local garden clubs, and couples looking to marry—who are now lining up to book weddings. And, well, look at it. It’s difficult to imagine any more lushly beautiful sanctuary to wed, plan an event, or simply relax and ponder the wonders of creation.

If you want to sample Christian Hip Hop, install spotify and search for Ill Harmonics.

To me they're one of the best. Really Hip Hop no doubt.

Any of you struggle praying on daily basis?

No I'm not playing police here, maybe we can share challenges and difficulties.

Prayers to me isn't just requests but can be just simple and plain conversation with Father God. Sometime I just talk to him on the things that irritates me in life. lol.

not bad. At least you pray every day.