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tinarhian
post Jul 21 2015, 10:49 PM

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Ohh nice movie there..

I remember when I visited Cambodia, there's a shop selling this cupcake, and the brand is called "Topcake."

But I don't understand what is "Topcake calling cattle black?" hmm.gif

Isn't it supposed to be "Pot calling kettle black?"
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post Jul 21 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 21 2015, 10:20 AM)
I understand that we should look to the eternal life after death. But what I cannot understand is why God isn't showing love to His people who are laboring so hard for Him? I mean yes, Christian life is not a bed or roses but if the unbelievers can see how much my brother has suffered only for God to later redeem his life for a miracle, people will see God's grace and love for this hardworker who labour in his fields. I am praying for my brother that he will get a better well paying job and he will find his life partner that he likes and she likes him, so that his detractors can see how much God loves him ! Years after years, even at church, I felt as a 40 yr old along with my friend, that the younger Christians sort of make fun of us and even at one time, one very inconsiderate Korean Christian at my church, asked me if I was a divorcee because I wasn't married for so long. I want to see these people really humbled, when they see my friend and brother, fall from grace, just in the nick of time for God to uphold and bring him up..for everyone to watch and witness how much God loves him !

I wish for that day to come, not just the point when we die and go back to God but also in our lives, not just through our labour, but God show to the world, that He rescues his people in the nick of time for those people who look down on us, spit on our face and persecute us to realize that God is with us all the way ! So through this, we bring glory to God ! Amen !
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That's the annoying thing about inconsiderate church goers. They tend to look at outward appearances.

Common characteristics of inconsiderate church goers that I've encountered in Malaysia so far:-

1. Act with a holier than thou attitude. doh.gif
2. Aunties who likes to gossip. doh.gif doh.gif
3. Cheeky uncles. (I'm hope you are not one of them.)
4. Rowdy children. shakehead.gif
5. Guys and girls who want to introduced me to MLM, stuffs, etc. shakehead.gif

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But yeah, God is not like that. We do not know what is God's plan for us, apart from salvation. We can only pray for our life sustaineance, well-being and protection, etc.
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post Jul 22 2015, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 21 2015, 06:18 PM)
UW I want to ask something about your signature.

'Atheist vehemently deny the existence of God and yet readily open to accept the idea of an alternate reality parallel universe. Topkek Pot calling Kettle black.'

Why is it topkek pot. Is it because it's impossible or...?
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Alternate Universe means a world where our secondary actions takes effect.
Meaning that when you're face with Choice A & B, you do the Choice A, the Choice B happens in another dimension, another universe.


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post Jul 22 2015, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jul 21 2015, 10:49 PM)
Ohh nice movie there..

I remember when I visited Cambodia, there's a shop selling this cupcake, and the brand is called "Topcake."

But I don't understand what is "Topcake calling cattle black?"  hmm.gif

Isn't it supposed to be "Pot calling kettle black?"
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I don't know if it's from 9gag (don't visit there) but I do know it's /k/tard lingo I suppose.
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post Jul 22 2015, 08:50 AM

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Hebrews 10:26 (NIV) - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,


This deliberately sinning is referring to Apostasy.

If you read the following words after that; "after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left," it means, rejecting Christ's Sacrifice once and for all and rather going back to the sacrifice of bulls and goats as in the days of the Old Covenant.

That is the context of sinning deliberately. This message was for the Hebrews, the Jewish people.

It is not referring to sin of morality.

If you read from the beginning of hebrews 10 why it so painstakingly explain about sacrifices.


I hope this answers your question.

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post Jul 22 2015, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 08:56 AM)
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and then they preach on wealth blessing. Meaning to say all Christians are entitled to be blessed with monetary income.

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the end goal is to influence non-believer, so they will receive CHRIST and keep influencing more, until no more unbeliever left

This is to fullfill the great commission. Matthew 28:16 - 20
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...thew%2028:16-20

you need to learn to respect other people approach to preach gospel if you want to have your prayer answered.
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post Jul 22 2015, 10:17 AM

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SINFUL UNBELIEVING HEART

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Hebrews 3:12 (NIV) - See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.


I've heard from the Holy Spirit this morning and I want to share with you this passage in hebrews 3:12. Praise God. When his miracle come, sometimes it's like a flood. biggrin.gif
One good thing after another. Our God is a good God Amen?

There is this question. Why as Christian, we don't receive from God, why we don't hear him, why we don't receive some miracle like some other Christians do.

And He wants you to receive his divine power and the question is, what is stopping this. Ready to receive the word?

I'll begin with this.

Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. The word slave in the KJV was translated as servants. (John 8:35)

Many times we feel like this. We feel more of a servant than a Son. That we need to work for God enough, pray enough, read the Bible enough, be pious enough.
In other words, we are always trying to achieve, work for it. Trying to earn the place. Trying to be in the position where God actually ALREADY gave to us, before we think we qualify to receive. This is the wrong perception our flesh (corrupted nature) tries to embed in us.

Unless you know what you have, you cannot give. Unless you know who you are, you cannot receive and bless others.
You are pretending, it's a pseudo identity, you are pretending, trying to become, because deep down inside, you don't really believe that you're a Christian.
You're "trying" to be a Christian. This is the problem, some of you are facing.

That is pretense, that is where the word "hypocrite" comes from, you're trying to be who you're not. If God calls you a saint, then you're a saint by faith.

But here is the problem. You cannot receive the Grace of God unless you whole heartedly accept what God says about you.

God says you are righteous by Faith and yet we keep trying be righteous by our performance. This is one big struggle for every Christian. Myself included at times.
We don't really accept Grace for what it is. That we are made righteous not of our own merit and yet we struggle for this. And I can explain why.

See, it's easier to trust that we are righteous by the merits of our effort than to believe that we are when we have done nothing about it. Did you hear me? I'll say this again.
It's easier to trust that we are righteous by the merits of our effort than to believe that we are when we have done nothing about it.

Hebrews 3:12 calls this a sinful unbelieving heart.

Until you begin to accept this completely, that God already receive you as a Son more than a slave/servant. That you are made Righteous because you believe in Christ. Your Sins are already dealt with and put away at the cross completely forevermore. Until you accept and believe this wholeheartedly, you will have have problems receiving from God. Why? Because you walk not by faith but by the sight of your performance. Until you repent this in mind and spirit, you'll be kept in this cycle of unbelieving loop.

I pray that the Holy Spirit will give you insight unto all that has been said and explained.

God Bless.

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post Jul 22 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 08:56 AM)
I can tell you, the single guys at church are really insecureeeee to the ice cap mountain limits.

First thing when they meet me, they will ask me if I am single or not and if I say yes...they will go on "hunter" mode like competing against me. I ask my gf if she had any problems with church goers, she say she never had, only have problem with unbelievers when she share the message. Why? because she's young and pretty and the hamsap guys at church all wanna target her. Its nice to be in your 20s, a girl and serving at church.

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At first his church sounds very sweet message and I know there's a lot of frustrated people at my church because its been steam rolling us into serving. Many just kena burn out. That's why many people from my church escape to go to his church. But I say any church that cut corners in God's revered WORD, is a church that's church trying to cut corners in our faith. The truth is most important no matter how painful it is. The bible specifically says we need to repent.
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Eh, y ur church so many kiasu ppl one neh? shocking.gif

u frm Dee You Amm Zeee izit? just say la! if not, nvm. LOL biggrin.gif

also, the preacher tat goes by the name "Prince" memang got problem one.

I rolled mah eyes shakehead.gif whn i listened to his sermons on youtube many years ago.

SG being SG, a developed nation wif citizens who face endless 1st world problems, well......u need somebody to cater to the materialistic crowd......to scratch an itch if u knw wat i mean brows.gif


QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 22 2015, 09:44 AM)
the end goal is to influence non-believer, so they will receive CHRIST and keep influencing more, until no more unbeliever left

This is to fullfill the great commission. Matthew 28:16 - 20
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...thew%2028:16-20

you need to learn to respect other people approach to preach gospel if you want to have your prayer answered.
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Hello,

influence non-believers wif money? shocking.gif

So u pray to Christ or Mammon actually? we dun need to 'influence' non-believers.

It's the Holy Spirit tat does the convicting. Not by the strength of man, which u r actually advocating.

& wat do u mean by " until no more unbeliever left"? Is tat even possible? I tot u said u oredi read the Bible 10 times over?

u dun even knw wat u r talking about!

& pls la! all ur Joyce Meyers & Benny Hinns & "Prince"s, all x boleh pakai one! They only preach on 1 main theme & it's not Christ shakehead.gif

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post Jul 22 2015, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 04:44 PM)
I am not even going to go there with you.

I've talked to you before and I know its pointless.
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Well, New Creation Church is similar with City Harvest theology, i don't know much about this Pst Joseph Prince but i don't think his church preach only prosperity blessing all the time, different pastor of different church has a different mindset though they are from the same church or same denomination

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post Jul 22 2015, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 22 2015, 08:32 AM)
I don't know if it's from 9gag (don't visit there) but I do know it's /k/tard lingo I suppose.
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Ah..9gag....been there, done that.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 08:56 AM)
I can tell you, the single guys at church are really insecureeeee to the ice cap mountain limits.

First thing when they meet me, they will ask me if I am single or not and if I say yes...they will go on "hunter" mode like competing against me. I ask my gf if she had any problems with church goers, she say she never had, only have problem with unbelievers when she share the message. Why? because she's young and pretty and the hamsap guys at church all wanna target her. Its nice to be in your 20s, a girl and serving at church.

The no.1 Act holier than thou attitude - ooohhh boy. That's the one major turn off I hate. I have one cg member, he's a bit like that. At first, when I had my break off with my ex, I shared this with my cg, and then this dude suddenly became like a "mentor" to me. He came over and shared his experiences of his own break up and how he overcame it, got married and became successful in marriage. Then he complain to me about our church and told me there's a better church. He's been like secretly going to this better church lead by a Singaporean name "Prince". His mega church in Singapore has 14k members now it has a branch in PJ. The church a bit odd one, they say no need to repent...and then they preach on wealth blessing. Meaning to say all Christians are entitled to be blessed with monetary income.

Anyways, at first I was listening to him but when I had a small disagreement with what he said, he completely shut me off and told me to listen to him, didn't allow me to talk. Red Flag ! Then he took me to his church, and wanted to recommend some girls to me. I wasn't interested.

Later on, I shared and ask him for advice when I was chasing my gf...then he told me that my way was not righteous. RED FLAG ! He then proceeded to tell me that if I don't change my ways, he will not entertain me and not advice me anymore, then he thanked me and say he will be my friend, just that he doesn't want me to solicitate advices from him anymore.

What the heck?

I then made a background check on his church, and found it suspecting. I mean when in any doubt ! Go back to the WORD !

At first his church sounds very sweet message and I know there's a lot of frustrated people at my church because its been steam rolling us into serving. Many just kena burn out. That's why many people from my church escape to go to his church. But I say any church that cut corners in God's revered WORD, is a church that's church trying to cut corners in our faith. The truth is most important no matter how painful it is. The bible specifically says we need to repent.
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That's why I don't serve in church. ohmy.gif

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Ok. I don't want to visit your church. EVER!!

My church got people like de1929, pehkay (quiet and wise), unknown warrior (wise and funny), etc.

Yes, we need to repent.

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post Jul 22 2015, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 22 2015, 02:29 PM)
Eh, y ur church so many kiasu ppl one neh?  shocking.gif

u frm Dee You Amm Zeee izit? just say la! if not, nvm. LOL  biggrin.gif

also, the preacher tat goes by the name "Prince" memang got problem one.

I rolled mah eyes  shakehead.gif  whn i listened to his sermons on youtube many years ago.

SG being SG, a developed nation wif citizens who face endless 1st world problems, well......u need somebody to cater to the materialistic crowd......to scratch an itch if u knw wat i mean brows.gif
Hello,

influence non-believers wif money?  shocking.gif   

So u pray to Christ or Mammon actually? we dun need to 'influence' non-believers.

It's the Holy Spirit tat does the convicting. Not by the strength of man, which u r actually advocating. 

& wat do u mean by " until no more unbeliever left"? Is tat even possible? I tot u said u oredi read the Bible 10 times over?

u dun even knw wat u r talking about!

& pls la! all ur Joyce Meyers & Benny Hinns & "Prince"s, all x boleh pakai one! They only preach on 1 main theme & it's not Christ  shakehead.gif
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Uh-huh. Joseph Prince, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, Benny Hinns, etc.... rolleyes.gif

Have you seen those people's net worth? ohmy.gif

Can feed the poor, but alas, they need to spend it on their mansions, jets, sport cars, etc....


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post Jul 22 2015, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 10:00 PM)
You know my church meh? LoL

But most churches are like this one. Sometimes the church call us to serve as if its easy. It takes so much time that the singles at my church don't even have time to be in relationships. that's why my church got so many single people.
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I think you gave a hint not too long ago. brows.gif

IKR. Even at my church, there's single men and ladies till their 50s. I mean nothing wrong with that. I admire their steadfast courage and dedication to serve the Lord. notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jul 22 2015, 09:53 PM)
Uh-huh. Joseph Prince, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, Benny Hinns, etc.... rolleyes.gif

Have you seen those people's net worth?  ohmy.gif

Can feed the poor, but alas, they need to spend it on their mansions, jets, sport cars, etc....
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Ya! thr's even a guy called Creflo A. Dollar, Jr. !

lookin @ his name, u'd think he was made to do this. Heh! biggrin.gif

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/03/pastor-creflo-dollar-might-get-his-65-million-private-jet-after-all/



& how bout Beth Moore? user posted image

i think she's HOT! tongue.gif
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post Jul 22 2015, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(14-9-2015 @ Jul 22 2015, 10:14 PM)
Ya! thr's even a guy called Creflo A. Dollar, Jr. ! 

lookin @ his name, u'd think he was made to do this. Heh!  biggrin.gif

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/03/pastor-creflo-dollar-might-get-his-65-million-private-jet-after-all/
& how bout Beth Moore? user posted image

i think she's HOT!  tongue.gif
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What a name. $$$... laugh.gif

Oh, you like older women. laugh.gif

There's plenty in my church.

QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 10:18 PM)
Well, it depends. I know a lot of guys in their 40s who are single n dedicated to serve but really want to find life partners.
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Talking about yourself eh? hehe...

How's your Mandarin?

Ni zhe me mingzi? LEL.

Is that correct?
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 10:18 PM)
Well, it depends. I know a lot of guys in their 40s who are single n dedicated to serve but really want to find life partners.
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i'm a guy in my 30s, who is single but not dedicated to serve, but really want to find life partner also blush.gif
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 06:32 PM)
Yes that was the word I looking for "prosperity blessing".

This mindset is very dangerous if I not mistaken. It makes members think they are entitled to be blessed with wealth. Then if bad things happen to them? How? They will be disappointed.

And to leave out repentance is very dangerous precedent. Members will go on sinning thinking that when they accepted Christ, they no need to repent.
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Well, Prosperity is not bad when it was preached wisely and the right way but when it was preached that money falling from the sky by just repenting it's not right, God and Jesus never said that believe in me and i will make you rich, but Jesus said this the heaven and earth belong to my father and those who believe in me will inherit what i have or to what they called (eternal live)
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 10:34 PM)
Your time will come. If you want faster, Dee Yuu MM Zee has lots of single girls in their 30s.

I used to be like you, struggling to find one but didn't think i would be able to find one in sort period therefore - i am confident God will grant you one. I didn't sort of serve a lot, i did a lot of church projects but was bullied by my peers there.

Well I hope my current rship works out.
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r u suggesting tat i should 'church hop'? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

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post Jul 22 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 10:30 PM)
Ni de mingzi shi shenme? Ni shi Tina jie jie?

But i more familiar with cantonese...lei kiew meh mang?

My mandarin sucks. I am totally lost when i am in with my gf's family - they speak hokkien (i speak cantonese), they speak mandarin (i speak better spanish). I look utterly hopeless.
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Wo de mingzi shi Tina.

jie jie is sister right? blush.gif

Wo de laoshi hen piaoliang. laugh.gif

Wo men kan dianshi.

Mandarin so hard la. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 10:45 PM)
No lah, you can just visit.

*hint* *hint*...

got two ladies there name Adeline...she quite fatt hao. One age 35, the other 37.
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wei!! i dun mind older or richer or taller than me, BUT......

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edit: ooops! blush.gif i read tat as FAT. sori! Heh!

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post Jul 22 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jul 22 2015, 10:50 PM)
Oh no problem...i know one lady - 38 yrs old, slim but teeth like nga chatt sou. She very desperate and fatt hao at church.

You like or not?
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errrr.......thx for ur recommendations. u have been xtremely helpful laugh.gif laugh.gif

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