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unknown warrior
post Jul 16 2015, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 16 2015, 02:11 AM)
Something I think worth pondering about about religion, in 8-bit goodness:


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True.
That is religion. That is how the world sees God when they don't know him personally.

But you know that I don't see God that way. I've been where you've been, so I think I can advise you on this.
How you treat God is how He'll treat you in the context of acknowledgement.

Faith is the evidence or vehicle that will usher you in to see God the first time. After that it's the matter of constant relationship.
This is the only 1 key requirement in the things of God's kingdom one which you cannot change not matter what.

You cannot use deeds, science, whatever. You cannot set your terms. Let God be God and let us be the one seeking and agree to his terms.

There are few other things though.

1. Humility
2. Persistent Faith
3. Change of mindset that God is a good God.


Question is, are you willing? No, this is not a direct challenge to you just a simple are you willing? No obligation.
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post Jul 16 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jul 15 2015, 10:40 PM)
cc = Credit card? dc = Debit card?

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You should apply for one. 

I don't have debit card.  blush.gif
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De_Luffy

Having a Debit Card would help to ensure zero debt. And that is good.

IMO also, Good to have just 1 credit card that can come in handy.

However relying on Credit Card without discipline or wisdom = Financial Disaster.

So need to be balance. Really up to each individual.
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post Jul 16 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 16 2015, 10:52 AM)
De_Luffy

Having a Debit Card would help to ensure zero debt. And that is good.

IMO also, Good to have just 1 credit card that can come in handy.

However relying on Credit Card without discipline or wisdom = Financial Disaster.

So need to be balance. Really up to each individual.
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Thanks for being faithful bro... keep up the good work.
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post Jul 16 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jul 14 2015, 11:22 AM)
Dear friends, been having migrain for some time now wondering what is the problem here. when it strike me it hurt so much, that i need to take pain killer almost everyday
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jul 14 2015, 06:07 PM)
hmm... good massage pricey and sometimes does not address your migraine. Take a look at my attachment, it is a quick way to relieve migraine. it's using elbow, and elbow is good for deep massage as well.

usually after sleep our body will heal ourself so imo no need to go to good massage...
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Hi luffy, have you followed that donk*y's approach to tackle your migraine ?

This post has been edited by Megatron123: Jul 16 2015, 11:08 AM
unknown warrior
post Jul 16 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Megatron123 @ Jul 16 2015, 10:57 AM)
Thanks for being faithful bro... keep up the good work.
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Thanks for the encouragement.
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post Jul 16 2015, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 16 2015, 11:28 AM)
Thanks for the encouragement.
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Still full time at calvary chappel ?
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post Jul 16 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Megatron123 @ Jul 16 2015, 11:33 AM)
Still full time at calvary chappel ?
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No I'm working in another Church but serving at Calvary.

But yeah Full time either way, Still within Church work.


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post Jul 16 2015, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 16 2015, 11:35 AM)
No I'm working in another Church but serving at Calvary.

But yeah Full time either way, Still within Church work.
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sometimes i confused with calvary network. You are full time in bukit jalil calvary convention center right ? i recalled you said you are relocating to bukit jalil... and serving in calvary or my understanding wrong ? or i recall somethine else hahaha
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post Jul 16 2015, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Megatron123 @ Jul 16 2015, 11:40 AM)
sometimes i confused with calvary network. You are full time in bukit jalil calvary convention center right ? i recalled you said you are relocating to bukit jalil... and serving in calvary or my understanding wrong ? or i recall somethine else hahaha
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Actually I'm serving in CCC in the worship ministry but I'm working as a Church Staff in another Church (not Calvary) which is kind of irony but then this is what God has laid out for me at the moment.

Still praying for open doors though. laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2015, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Megatron123 @ Jul 16 2015, 11:06 AM)
Hi luffy, have you followed that donk*y's approach to tackle your migraine ?
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Well, what he said does make sense after all wouldn't it? but of coz a massage session is not cheap, i once had my first and last massage session few years back somewhere in Perak. Was at outstation during that time with few others colleague, quite cheap and efficient as they just opened and having promo so we decided to try.

By the time i'm done, my colleague mentioned that my snoring and waking up like zombie during middle of nights is gone very peaceful night.
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post Jul 17 2015, 10:37 AM

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Bible Devotions with UW

Dividing wall of hostility

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Ephesians 2:14-15 - 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace,


We all know that it is Sin that separates us from God. True. NO denying that. But have you ever wonder what give strength to Sin? Try and guess. Our Flesh? Our Corrupted Nature? Our Love for lust, it give strength to Sin? The more we succumb to Sin the more it empower Sin?

No. The answer = The Laws of God. But but UW, that's not true, prove it, you're teaching heresy here. What's your prove in saying this?

Here it is.

1 Corinthians 15:56 (KJV) - The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

It blew my mind away when I first read that. I mean whoa. How can this be? The Laws of God is meant to teach us and guide us to do good. By being obedient to God's Law I am pleasing God. Isn't it meant to be like that?

True. Then how can the strength of sin is the law? I don't get it. Bear with me as I show 2 more scripture verse then I'll close.

In Ephesians 2:14-15 (as above main theme verse). The Bible calls the Laws of God a "dividing wall of hostility".

(You're not making this any easier UW. biggrin.gif )

In 2 Corinthians 3:7, The Bible calls the 10 commandments as a ministry of Death!

2 Corinthians 3:7 (NIV) - Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was,


The Laws of God; (Notice bold in red)

1) Gives Strength to Sin
2) Dividing wall of hostility
3) A ministry of death

What are you trying to say UW? You're trying to teach people to go against God's Law and Sin as they please? No, I want you to understand Bible principal trough the Spirit of God. I want you to understand the New Covenant.

Notice in Ephesians 2:14-15, in verse 15, Jesus abolished the 10 commandments through his flesh meaning his death at the cross. The Laws, The dividing wall of hostility is what that's keeping you from coming close to God. When you put yourself under Law, you cannot come to God.

When you feel guilty, condemned when you fall in your walk with God, that is the work of the Law magnified, pitted against you.

Always Understand that the Laws of God cannot make you Holy neither Righteous, only your Faith will God recognize and account righteousness to you. It is meant to being you to the end of yourself on your knees rendered helpless and weak before God. It is meant (always) to drive you into the loving arms of Christ Jesus our Lover and Savior. Amen?

Our Lord Jesus have abolished the hostility. Read Ephesians 2:14-15 again carefully.

Our New Life is dictated by the Spirit of God. The Laws of God of the Old Covenant will only hinder the work of the spirit. Because Christ has abolished the law and even removed it, so must we in our daily life before God. Not to be conscious of the Law but of the Spirit of God. When you are always conscious God's abundance Grace, conscious of the work of the Holy Spirit, conscious of the cross, conscious of the Love of Christ, conscious of the life of Faith, all these are the things of the Kingdom of God you will reign in Life! Amen?

God's Grace is the answer.

So if you're in the place where you feel that you've done too much wrong and guilty to come to God for Grace, read his word here and understand that Christ has already finished the work at the cross, has removed that hostile dividing wall that separates you from God.

Come to God, dear Friends Today!

God Bless.


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post Jul 17 2015, 05:01 PM

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Amen, but what is being consious with the Grace of God?
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post Jul 17 2015, 06:35 PM

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I'm not bashing Christianity, but there are certain points in this video that makes sense. Take it with a grain of salt, as I understand reason and faith do not necessarily agree with each other.


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post Jul 17 2015, 08:30 PM

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No offence, but I feel like you're pushing your agenda behind the guise of an 'intellectual discussion'.
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post Jul 17 2015, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 17 2015, 05:01 PM)
Amen, but what is being consious with the Grace of God?
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That He love you always?

That God's open arm is always readily available to his struggling Children. That He will NEVER leave you nor forsake you.

When you call upon God in whatever state that you are, God is always listening and will answer.

When you know all your sins is already nailed at the cross.

That is being conscious of his Grace



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post Jul 17 2015, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jul 17 2015, 08:30 PM)
No offence, but I feel like you're pushing your agenda behind the guise of an 'intellectual discussion'.
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None taken. I simply believe that Christians should also be in harmony with both intelligence and faith, together.
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post Jul 17 2015, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 17 2015, 09:07 PM)
None taken. I simply believe that Christians should also be in harmony with both intelligence and faith, together.
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Bro, I realize that as time goes by, when I understood more of Christianity actually God did leave a lot of evidence.

The Apostles were real people, Jesus is really a real living person, recorded by historian of his time.

This is not some fiction man.


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post Jul 17 2015, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 17 2015, 09:07 PM)
None taken. I simply believe that Christians should also be in harmony with both intelligence and faith, together.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jul 17 2015, 10:02 PM)
Bro, I realize that as time goes by, when I understood more of Christianity actually God did leave a lot of evidence.

The Apostles were real people, Jesus is really a real living person, recorded by historian of his time.

This is not some fiction man.
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I know it's not fiction, and I have deep questions about the nature of reality itself. However, if religion is to be both doubted and believed, one is eventually compelled to understand the how and the whys of both sides. I don't want to pick sides, so I like to think why both the "real" and "unreal" has to exists within our perceptions of reality. I do these mostly by questioning them everyday, including both scientific and religious explanations provided by everyone.

In other words, I could be an agnostic. I do not think God is a plain myth, but I also do not think science and reason are to be avoided.

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post Jul 17 2015, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 17 2015, 09:07 PM)
None taken. I simply believe that Christians should also be in harmony with both intelligence and faith, together.
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There is a think called spiritual intelligence.

As you are talking about intelligence and faith, the spiritual intelligence will able to disect:
1. which intelligence to keep.
2. which intelligence to discard.
3. which faith to keep.
4. which faith to discard.

Not all that we think intelligence JESUS wants to keep them.
Not all that we think as faith JESUS wants to keep them.

Sometimes proud defined as we think too much instead of asking GOD too much.

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