Smaller Church being small, they notice who comes in and goes hence they can give you the attention that you need.

Bro one thing though, I think you have a deep loneliness in your spirit, tells me that you have not really seek God to fill that void in your heart.
I mean I think you have not commune with God in a deep and intimate way, perhaps you treat God more like an altar God, you pray then you live your daily life.

Sorry if I'm being direct n sorry If I may have misunderstood you.

With that being said; You can expect people in Church to love you but you cannot expect people to fill in that deep void gap in your heart that only God can and only God qualifies to, not even your GF can do that.

KL? Find one that's near your Taman la.

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Just sharing my encounter with the mormons. Was having a stroll at the park and came 2 American dudes. They started to chat about Msia and etc and then suddenly they asked "Have u ever heard about the mormons"? Of course I say no then quickly they took out a bible and flip a few pages to tell me about their believes bla..bla..bla... After a while they gave me the the bible and left.

Few days later I passed it to my pastor in CG and he said "Do not bring this rubbish into my home...LOL... and he threw it outside and said I'll burn it after the session....

Just sharing. Praise the Lord!

a Bible is a Bible, why burn or throw it? weird.

Here's a freebie: Of course, southpark episode.... or ... "The book of mormon" musical....

Actually

NismoConcept gave the Bible to his pastor in CG, you do know what is CG right? They're just afraid of cults.

Cessasionism or Continualist, those are just terms that has no meaning. Sugar coated ideologies being exploit by selfish individuals for their own benefit in the pretense of serving God. With that said, that does not mean that I don't agree there are still good pastors left but eventually, they will stray when they see the finances flowing in.

I don't feel disgruntled after tithing, I just feel like the funds were being abused by the individual whom the people trust. My purpose of tithing was so that they could be advanced to expand God's Kingdom and not to make prosper the pastor and his family's welfare. I was delighted when the pastor reported that monies were being advanced to support small churches growth in rural areas like those in Africas etc. THAT is supposed to be the purpose.

What's funny is that the pastor in my previous church preached if the leader is prosperous then he can lead the followers to the same route. To my surprise, everyone just shouted Amen. What logic is that? For what I know, the pastor had bought a new 3 storey bungalow and changed multiple cars and also brought his entire family overseas on "missionary trips" and yet, I still see members driving an aged Mazda 3.

It may not be fair but take example of the City Harvest case, I do not know which school you subscribed to but I saw a clear cut breach of trust which is criminal in nature and YET, the church goers went on and trust the leader. They call it faith but I deemed that such obedience was because they fear, fearing that they may anger God if they stopped doing what the leaders told them.

My point is this, if someone feel "disgruntled" (in your words) when tithing, this is not because they are not in sync with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit does not compel you to do wrong things instead it warns you that something is not right so when an individual feel that they are tithing to the wrong church, then it is the Holy Spirit telling you something. One must not be advised to console it and deemed such discomfort as a sign of moving away from having faith in God.

One must always remember. We placed our faith in God and not in the pastor. They are not God.

That was my understanding as well and I find the church is in absolute contradiction. At one point they are preaching mercy and at the other, telling you things like this.

As far as I know, I didn't remember believing in Hitler or a socialist God.

Whatever it is, I stopped going to church for a few years now but my faith for God is still strong. In spite of my deliberate absenteeism, God has never left me and has been with me along.

Nowadays, I feel like people going to church is not to worship God but rather to social and "show off" under the veil of "fellowship". The fact that people gossip about each other immediately after the sermons within the church compound sickens me.

Huh...seriously man...a bible is a bible? For real?

Arrrgh, this is what I've been fighting against. When you have churches that preaches mixture of law and grace, you get mixed messages that confuse people.

Keep believing friend, don't give up. You can come to my Church if you want, we're in Bukit Jalil, Calvary.

Oh but then?

I think Nismo didn't mentioned that the mormon "Bible" tends to be drastically different from the Bible itself.

I thought the Book of Mormon is called as it is and not as Bible.

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I have never given up in God and I don't I will ever because I have been through so many events in my life which I can only account in supernatural ways, events in which if God wasn't in intervention, would not be possible so yeah. He's the way of life for me.

I don't plan on going to a church anytime soon because I don't feel the need to. I have been to a few churches before and they are all the same (no offense). They are very good to you but once they see you as a regular attendee, they ignore you like they have never known you before. I personally don't mind how the treat me, I'm just appalled in their attitude capable of change so fast. A hypocrite if you may.

I also hated the fact that church attendees spent more time talking about people rather than worshiping. On average I think they spent longer hours in the cafeteria that in the worship hall . Church is not a social club.

but God never meant for any Christians to function like that. The Church was his idea anyway.

Being Lone rangers can only go so far. I was like that once then but when I saw Hebrews 10:25, I know it's not right to stay away from Church.

I did talked to God before about some people in the Churches that causes discouragement to other then I got this inclination in the heart, "you be the change then".

Then I told God, you have to help me then.....and the rest is history. I go to Church to be encouraged as well as to encourage others.

But primarily I go to Church to feed on God's word through the preaching of sermons and to see if there's anyone I can encourage.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 19 2016, 12:07 PM

I know God is almighty and I am inclined to make this statement but I think God did not foresee that humans can evolved to this stage of decay. The passage in Hebrew was made in the era in which people are not engrossed with their own selfish desires and self-indulgence. To be honest, I am ashamed to have admit that most Christian made Christianity sounded like MLM, I understand that it's good to have spread the good news to people but some Christians are just too aggressive and radical, telling people straight to their face that if they do not take Christian into their heart, they will be condemned to the fires of hell for eternity, though true but.... just too, radical .

These Christians are taking the "recruitment" business far too seriously. It's like they are competing with each other as to who has the bigger downline -.-

I will go to Church eventually but until now, I still haven't find the calling to go to the right Church because every where I go, they remind me of each and every church I have been through and has failed me. So for now, it's just between God and me.

After all, this relationship is personal and to me other than this, everything is just optional.

Actually He already did.

Matthew 24:12 (NIV) - Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,

Forgive them then. You know unforgiveness, it'll can just eat you up inside and stop you from growing in the Lord.

That's why I say; sorry If I may have misunderstood you, but are you honestly?

The basis of you being disconnected from the Church is because nobody takes you seriously or nobody talks to you much?

I used to take all these very personally until one day I realized there's no point in fretting because by keeping it in my mind, it only makes me dread going to church. I couldn't be bothered with their attitude anymore but the character of my leader is really unacceptable.

I'm not planning to go to any church as of now because I think i've exhausted all my quota for searching. I still couldn't find the right one until now may be because I was searching it through my human eyes. So, i'll just wait for the calling which I'm sure will arrive. I can afford waiting because I'm not straying away from Him.

The wickedness of man....

don't overlook cessasionism n continualism issues. take a look at your writings i put in bold. How do you know Holy spirit voice / advice / guidance ?

I give you case: I need to bribe to save a kid in the jungle. question: from Holy Spirit ? or from devil ?

Erm...Shan, going to church is not something that needs some sort of calling from God, it's a given by God.

Hebrews 10:25 (KJV) - Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching

But yeah I understand you're stalling because you're looking for the right Church. We all have to accept the fact there is no perfect Church that exist. There's always challenges in every Church, just that it varies from one church to another.

My advise is; just go to a nearby church, one that's near your home, as long as the Church is a Bible base Church and is not some weird cult, it's okay already. Who knows you may find another calling to serve there?

Find smaller church. shoplot size. between 50 - 100 person and below.