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post Dec 10 2015, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 10 2015, 01:54 PM)
i only know these words PANZER VOR and Girls UND PANZER tongue.gif
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Panzer vor - Tanks forward. (Marching)

Girls und panzer - Girls and Tanks (No surprise there).

So you like girls and tanks. I have no idea what is it. War magazine? tongue.gif


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post Dec 10 2015, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 10 2015, 10:30 PM)
Panzer vor - Tanks forward. (Marching)

Girls und panzer - Girls and Tanks (No surprise there).

So you like girls and tanks. I have no idea what is it. War magazine?  tongue.gif
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nah, it's just i love to watch anime in my past time tongue.gif also that's the only anime that has a catchy storyline also very nice song thumbup.gif

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post Dec 10 2015, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 10 2015, 10:30 PM)
Panzer vor - Tanks forward. (Marching)

Girls und panzer - Girls and Tanks (No surprise there).

So you like girls and tanks. I have no idea what is it. War magazine?  tongue.gif
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nah, it's just i love to watch anime in my past time tongue.gif also that's the only anime that has a catchy storyline also very nice song thumbup.gif

tinarhian
post Dec 10 2015, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 10 2015, 10:41 PM)
nah, it's just i love to watch anime in my past time tongue.gif also that's the only anime that has a catchy storyline also very nice song thumbup.gif
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Oh anime. I'm not very familiar with anime. The only anime I've watched is Grave of the fireflies. Quite a touching story I must say.

I'm downloading this "When Marnie was there." Read the review. Quite nice storyline.

I'm a sucker for sad movies. blush.gif
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 10 2015, 03:42 PM)
Its just that i felt disappointed with the single guys at my church. Instead of uniting n support each other. They r nasty n selfish. For eg..if they get involve in ministry that i am interested in but did not know...they wont share with me.

They also like to ffk people..like ask me out from the blue..i turn up n the joker is sleeping
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It's ok man, I used to be close with a group of friends in church but not anymore.

I don't let it bother me as I have other friends now.
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post Dec 11 2015, 12:20 AM

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Ok maybe Christian church members (or non members) are not someone we ought them to be because we are all just humans with natural flaws (to begin with).

Changing church does not necessarily help though.

Maybe UW and pehkay can share their views since they are both elder statemen. hehe...
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 10 2015, 09:15 PM)

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post Dec 11 2015, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 11 2015, 12:20 AM)
Ok maybe Christian church members (or non members) are not someone we ought them to be because we are all just humans with natural flaws (to begin with).

Changing church does not necessarily help though.

Maybe UW and pehkay can share their views since they are both elder statemen. hehe...
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kron_ka

The thing about Kron..is that If He himself tap into God as the source of strength and reliance, he won't have all these issues.

But that's a common problem with the Body of Christ. Most people rely and look to Church leaders.

Can I advise all you guys in here? ALL Church leaders have flaws. You have to learn and accept that.

Whichever Church you go to, PLEASE don't look up to a Human Leader so much. By that I don't mean that you become uncooperative and rebellious as well.
Learn to work with Grace in Church and try to submit to their leadership because God is the one who appoints them.

That's why the Bible says ...whatever you do, do it for the Lord. That's why you need abundant of Grace from God and to Man.

The only person you should Look up to is Jesus Christ. Him and ONLY Him alone. Tapping into God first and foremost is far more important as the initial step to solve this.When you have a very close relationship with God, Love will be natural and you will love your Church Leaders with Grace and Patience and will not have problem submitting to their authority.

Right Now Kron, I think your rebellious nature dominating you that is one issue you need to get God to help you.

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 11 2015, 12:00 AM)
Thats the thing about cellies..after 3 yrs cell disband. None of them bother to catch up.

My non christian friends last longer.

I recall
15 yrs ago..non of my cg members turn up for my water baptism. This is after all the stuff i done for them...search for runaway cg member from his family, attend funerals..chip in for their weddings..gave them a lift to church on my first car...
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It's true, my non Christian friends stick closer and really come to my help when I need them and the sames goes for them.

Sometimes, having no expectations hurts less when you get disappointed.

Now, I'm having second thoughts about the upcoming Star Wars EP 7.

QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 11 2015, 12:01 AM)
Somehow wonder if i can be change without a church
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Don't say that bro.

Just pray and most importantly, have FAITH!

Those friends who are genuine and true will stay with you forever.

Have a nice day and stay awesome biggrin.gif
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post Dec 12 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 9 2015, 05:00 PM)
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Let me put this in a simple way why you are so Ironic. In favour or not in favour of the Bible, it's alright, most questions that comes in from outside is usually unfavourable.
You can and did asked us "why" in the Bible is this and this and that......we explain "why" according to the Bible. (that is the green light given)

now You're saying why should the Bible be the truth. (that is something we don't want to argue about with non believers)
hallo....what Thread is this? Obviously that's something that doesn't need any explanation. We are christian of course we believe in the Bible as the Truth.
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We will explain what we can but If you want to ask why you should believe in what our Bible says or explains, that is something I won't force, it's something you have take it up on your own.
I won't force it down your throat if you don't believe the Bible as the Ultimate Truth as how we believe it as the only Truth.

How is it that you cannot understand this simple irony?
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I'm not sure how you came up with "irony" to describe the situation when I am only questioning the problem of what constitutes as good and bad by completely ignoring the fact that we no longer associate ourselves with the barbarism as shown in the Bible itself. If I have a Cthulhu book that says murdering infants is a good thing, will you be able to accept my standard of what constitutes as "good" is I also were to say, I am merely following the book? How then, will we able to discern of whether if the Bible and the book of Cthulhu will be worthy of following in order to determine ethics?
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post Dec 13 2015, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 12 2015, 01:02 PM)
I'm not sure how you came up with "irony" to describe the situation when I am only questioning the problem of what constitutes as good and bad by completely ignoring the fact that we no longer associate ourselves with the barbarism as shown in the Bible itself. If I have a Cthulhu book that says murdering infants is a good thing, will you be able to accept my standard of what constitutes as "good" is I also were to say, I am merely following the book? How then, will we able to discern of whether if the Bible and the book of Cthulhu will be worthy of following in order to determine ethics?
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Actually No,

The reason why things happened the way it happened under the Old Testament it's because we're the one who asked for it.

God is not at fault here.

As Christians...We don't totally ignore it, you use the word disassociate but we learn and understand why. That is a misconception.

Anyway...This revelation of why is not for you anyway. To be honest I did not want to engage this with you because you won't understand and it will be a waste of time.

We won't force you or anyone to believe the Bible, if you or anyone don't want to. That is not the Green Light given, you misunderstood me. The Green was given to you for you to learn, not dictate to us what you think.

This goes to your other thread as well. I will stop because I don't want to argue with you. I don't believe in Scientific or Critical argument as a suitable way to discover God. It never was and will never be. To know God you just have to study Jesus Christ and start by the way of Faith. From there God will reveal himself. God has already provided a way to know Him, it's so simple really but problem is, you want to carve your own way..thinking that it will work.

You will search in vain, any other way. You can continue to blabber on alone if you don't agree, maybe I should be more clear what I mean by green Light: Until and Unless you want to learn from us and not tell us what you think should be right of the Bible, you can look to others to talk to. This is after Christian Fellowship thread designed for christians to fellowship and to answer curiosity of our Faith. not a place to argue who is wrong or right.

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post Dec 14 2015, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 12 2015, 12:33 PM)
Yeah, now I really look at my so-called church fellows like my office. I just walk past them like I don't know them and they do the same. One day, one lady at church who know me, just rudely ask me how my brother is doing (she apparently jealous my bro didn't invite her for his open house), then before I could say anything, she abruptly and rudely took her hp to make a phone call. Nuts.
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I know that feeling too but don't be bitter.

I choose not get affected by it. When I see them in church, I'll just wave and greet them. No hard feelings.

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post Dec 14 2015, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 13 2015, 11:01 PM)
Actually No,

The reason why things happened the way it happened under the Old Testament it's because we're the one who asked for it.

God is not at fault here.
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While the motivation behind the barbaric acts could possibly be a good thing, but does it justify the methods that were used?

Say, for example, if it is your fault that you have lose my keys, wouldn't it natural to think that it would be too extreme for me to dismember your hands as a form of response?

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 13 2015, 11:01 PM)
As Christians...We don't totally ignore it, you use the word disassociate but we learn and understand why. That is a misconception.
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Not exactly. While it is true that both Christians and non-Christians have studied the bible, my point here of not being associated with the barbaric acts in the bible means that we are no longer PRACTICING nor even ADVOCATING such violence in our everyday lives today. it's not a misconception if you and I can agree that the violent acts in the bible are considered as barbaric.

That is, unless you do not view upon it as barbaric? How would you define such horrifying acts then? Do you NOT call them, horrifying, just so you may justify it as "because it is humanity's fault?"

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 13 2015, 11:01 PM)
Anyway...This revelation of why is not for you anyway. To be honest I did not want to engage this with you because you won't understand and it will be a waste of time.

We won't force you or anyone to believe the Bible, if you or anyone don't want to. That is not the Green Light given, you misunderstood me. The Green was given to you for you to learn, not dictate to us what you think.
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I'm sure you won't, nor did I ever shown any signs of being forced to believe in anything anyway. But you may be inaccurate about the part of me using the green light to "dictate to people of what I think". That did not happen. What I've done so far are just asking questions, because something didn't seemed quite right. At the end of the day, they're only questions, not claims, nor ultimatums.

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 13 2015, 11:01 PM)
This goes to your other thread as well. I will stop because I don't want to argue with you. I don't believe in Scientific or Critical argument as a suitable way to discover God. It never was and will never be. To know God you just have to study Jesus Christ and start by the way of Faith. From there God will reveal himself. God has already provided a way to know Him, it's so simple really but problem is, you want to carve your own way..thinking that it will work.
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It's not so much whether if God can, or could not be discovered by thinking rationally, it's about whether if we wish to think rationally or not. If you have decided to think rationally for a specific issue in life, be it groceries and career choices, why wouldn't, or rather why, should you not be allowed, or even attempt to do the same for the issue of god? The fact that you're allowed to think, betrays your need for faith, because like most people, no matter what your faith may be, you still decided to lock your doors, because you have chose to think of it rationally.

QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 13 2015, 11:01 PM)
You will search in vain, any other way. You can continue to blabber on alone if you don't agree, maybe I should be more clear what I mean by green Light: Until and Unless you want to learn from us and not tell us what you think should be right of the Bible, you can look to others to talk to. This is after Christian Fellowship thread designed for christians to fellowship and to answer curiosity of our Faith. not a place to argue who is wrong or right.
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Like I've mentioned earlier, I did not claim that "my way", or any other way to be the truth. I was merely asking questions.

It is religion itself that claimed to have the truth. I did not do this.

Religion claims to be the ultimate truth.

I ask questions.

Two completely different things.

If you cannot agree of me doing such things, then you shouldn't have gave me the green light?

Would you rather kick me out instead, in the spirit of Christianity?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Dec 14 2015, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 14 2015, 03:45 PM)
Dun bother to wave..they wont wave back.
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They still wave back. Just a friendly gesture.
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 14 2015, 04:06 PM)
While the motivation behind the barbaric acts could possibly be a good thing, but does it justify the methods that were used?

Say, for example, if it is your fault that you have lose my keys, wouldn't it natural to think that it would be too extreme for me to dismember your hands as a form of response?
Not exactly. While it is true that both Christians and non-Christians have studied the bible, my point here of not being associated with the barbaric acts in the bible means that we are no longer PRACTICING nor even ADVOCATING such violence in our everyday lives today. it's not a misconception if you and I can agree that the violent acts in the bible are considered as barbaric.

That is, unless you do not view upon it as barbaric? How would you define such horrifying acts then? Do you NOT call them, horrifying, just so you may justify it as "because it is humanity's fault?"
I'm sure you won't, nor did I ever shown any signs of being forced to believe in anything anyway. But you may be inaccurate about the part of me using the green light to "dictate to people of what I think". That did not happen. What I've done so far are just asking questions, because something didn't seemed quite right. At the end of the day, they're only questions, not claims, nor ultimatums.
It's not so much whether if God can, or could not be discovered by thinking rationally, it's about whether if we wish to think rationally or not. If you have decided to think rationally for a specific issue in life, be it groceries and career choices, why wouldn't, or rather why, should you not be allowed, or even attempt to do the same for the issue of god? The fact that you're allowed to think, betrays your need for faith, because like most people, no matter what your faith may be, you still decided to lock your doors, because you have chose to think of it rationally.
Like I've mentioned earlier, I did not claim that "my way", or any other way to be the truth. I was merely asking questions.

It is religion itself that claimed to have the truth. I did not do this.

Religion claims to be the ultimate truth.

I ask questions.

Two completely different things.

If you cannot agree of me doing such things, then you shouldn't have gave me the green light?

Would you rather kick me out instead, in the spirit of Christianity?
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Totally unrelated examples, can't help you there.

Told you...you wouldn't understand. What you call locked doors..we call it Faith in a Living God, who actually responds back.

I've already explained to you what I meant by green light. You want to learn something from us, can. You want to question our Faith which can lead to arguments..No.

Yes, will kick you out because we do not want arguments in here. Else you have RWI to satisfy your needs.



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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 14 2015, 05:36 PM)
Totally unrelated examples, can't help you there.

Told you...you wouldn't understand. What you call locked doors..we call it Faith in a Living God, who actually responds back.

I've already explained to you what I meant by green light. You want to learn something from us, can. You want to question our Faith which can lead to arguments..No.

Yes, will kick you out because we do not want arguments in here. Else you have RWI to satisfy your needs.
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Yes. Kick me out because Christians can never be open-minded to handle any questions (I know, I was once a Christian myself).
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 11 2015, 10:11 AM)
kron_ka

The thing about Kron..is that If He himself tap into God as the source of strength and reliance, he won't have all these issues.

But that's a common problem with the Body of Christ. Most people rely and look to Church leaders.

Can I advise all you guys in here? ALL Church leaders have flaws. You have to learn and accept that.

Whichever Church you go to, PLEASE don't look up to a Human Leader so much. By that I don't mean that you become uncooperative and rebellious as well.
Learn to work with Grace in Church and try to submit to their leadership because God is the one who appoints them.

That's why the Bible says ...whatever you do, do it for the Lord. That's why you need abundant of Grace from God and to Man.

The only person you should Look up to is Jesus Christ. Him and ONLY Him alone. Tapping into God first and foremost is far more important as the initial step to solve this.When you have a very close relationship with God, Love will be natural and you will love your Church Leaders with Grace and Patience and will not have problem submitting to their authority.

Right Now Kron, I think your rebellious nature dominating you that is one issue you need to get God to help you.
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May I add one more thing.

Romans 12:18 (NIV)

If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

This post has been edited by tinarhian: Dec 14 2015, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 14 2015, 05:39 PM)
Yes. Kick me out because Christians can never be open-minded to handle any questions (I know, I was once a Christian myself).
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As for you, I think this verse apply to you.

James 1:5 NIV

If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.
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post Dec 15 2015, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 14 2015, 05:39 PM)
Yes. Kick me out because Christians can never be open-minded to handle any questions (I know, I was once a Christian myself).
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Already explained to you. All the terrible things that happened in the Old Testament is because of the vanity of Man.

We're the one who asked for it. It happened at Mount Sinai when Israel agreed to be subjected to the Laws of God. That was the problem.

You can quote infants murdered, bears mauling kids..whatever..it all falls under this explanation.

Now with that being said, We don't force people to believe the Gospel or the Bible. We only share accordingly. At the end of the day, only God has the power and patience to change a person's heart.

As Christian we are called to avoid all sort of arguments that will lead to nowhere because, if you don't want to listen, you won't. When you're ready, you will come willingly.

But if you think you can use this as a way to influence me to think like you, because it's "critical thinking" or "scientific" way to know God, you can forget it, doesn't work on me. We will stop here. Don't think you can trick me or twist my arm by using guilt. What you call as not being open minded to discuss I call it don't waste life precious time arguing with people. It is very stupid.

I'm way passed beyond that. LASTLY...take this with you, you want to know God, get to know Jesus, study him in the gospel. I won't repeat this again if you're going to blabber on in sections.
But if you want to know what's with the vanity of Man with regards to the Laws of God that have caused so much death...that I can continue on the condition, you just listen and don't ask stupid questions which makes no sense like the ones in your other thread.

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