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post Jun 26 2015, 12:01 PM

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Big BIG NOP for Benteke. He is just a lil better than Origi. Balotelli > Benteke and Origi combined.
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post Jun 26 2015, 03:52 PM

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Firmino natural position should be no 10, although he played false 9 for Brazil, and just recently switched back to no 10.

Oh waiiitt, did I missed anything there? I think now I know why BR bought Firmino! To replace Sterling for the vacant false 9 position! Ings and Origi will sit on the bench again! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Jun 27 2015, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(imin @ Jun 27 2015, 03:37 PM)
And pls guys don't be so excited with all this new signings.. new signings means BR can use the excuse "they need more time" more often than ever tongue.gif
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Glad that there is still fans realised this and doesnt fall into the mind controlling tactic of BR. laugh.gif
And if, IF the new players flop, TC is going to be the scapegoat again..haha
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post Jun 29 2015, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(horror2015 @ Jun 29 2015, 10:15 AM)
Squad Depth or Death?

12 midfielders, 10 strikers? Based on list,

Strikers to go: Mario, Borini, Lambert, Alberto, Yesil

Strikers for loan: Jerome Sinclair

Midfielders to go: Joao Carlos, Sterling

Midfielders for loan: Sheyi Ojo

Trimming down to 9 midfielders (excluding Illaramendi and Pedro) and 4 Strikers (Ibe is actually a winger type) will be good enough.
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Why list out so many reserve players? They can still be very useful back up.

IMO, these are the players that should go.

1. Lovren
2. Borini
3. Lambert
4. Allen
5. Sterling (for the money)
6. Luis Alberto (no place for him anymore)


As for players like Markovic and Balotelli, I would keep as backup. Btw, I have no idea what to do with Moreno, I would definitely bench him next season, unless he suddenly knows how to defend properly after the break, which is not possible.
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post Jun 29 2015, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(horror2015 @ Jun 29 2015, 10:42 AM)
LOL you're saying we should continue paying Balotelli somewhere between 80k pounds (basic) to 110k pounds (including perks) and keep him on the bench? If yes, i'd rather keep Borini who earns between 40k pounds (basic) to 60k pounds (including perks) a week.

The list of players I listed are such as Yesil and Joao Carlos are already pass their 20years of age. Now still cannot break into 1st team, wanna wait till when? Might as well cut short their stay, reduce our losses and prolong their career somewhere else.

I'd say Allen may be good for another year since Europa League has more games than UCL, so its betterto keep experience players, at least for the season.

Markovic is still young, so I never name him out. Besides, 60k a week for the next 4 years represents an ok business, if u ask me. Who knows, he may be a slightly slow boomer like Henderson.

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/liverpool-player-salaries/
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You should tell BR instead. Balotelli worth way more than that, he took a pay cut to join us. And why do he rotting on the bench? Its because BR the clown have no idea how to utilise him. As for those reserve players, if you look from another angle, BR doesn't really promote reserve players into first team, he rather buy overpriced talented youngster and loan them out or bench them. But if Yesil and Teixeira want to leave, its their choice, no point staying at Liverpool reserve team.
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post Jun 29 2015, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jun 29 2015, 11:05 AM)
Somemore got Origi and Ings, plus we play 1 striker normally. How to accommodate so many striker?
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Balotelli, Borini, Ings, Origi, Lambert, Sturridge,

Sturridge will miss the first half of the season, and I can foresee his glass leg will not last long.
Borini, Lambert, and Balotelli is on the verge of leaving.

Leave us Ings, and Origi.

Not much striker left actually if those players did leave, but 0 world class strikers, let's see how Firmino and Coutinho going to feed them.
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post Jun 29 2015, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(horror2015 @ Jun 29 2015, 11:07 AM)
Mario isn't an all-round player. He's lazy and don't drop far back to collect. Hot-headed and bad temper, his chances of red cards seems higher than his goal numbers.

His ability to play as a team is also another big doubt. It's like he don't understand how the team runs around. Always look out-of-sorts. One more, thing, he's too proud of himself.

Now with Origi and Ings and BR prefered lone striker role, I doubt Mr.Mario will even get a chance. Rather than paying 110k to warm the bench, might as well let Ings, Sturrige, Firminho and Origi gel together.
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Not going to deny his attitude problem there, but his performance on the pitch is world class.

It's boils down to BR anyway, he's the one doesn't know how to use Balotelli. How did a players did so well with City, Inter and Milan became like this? The same goes to Lovren and Lallana, both of them did so well with Soton, Lovren became shit with us, Lallana can't even grab the first team spot. Well, this is just my opinion. BR simply ruined Balotelli, like how Van Gaal switch the soul of Di Maria and Young. laugh.gif

QUOTE(horror2015 @ Jun 29 2015, 11:09 AM)
Thought Firminho can play the false no9? He did that in Copa.
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I'd prefer not to watch anymore of false 9 formation under BR. Firmino best and natural position is no 10, let's not ruin him.
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post Jun 29 2015, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 29 2015, 11:15 AM)
balo most likely staying la...his stock dropped already after BR performance last season so demand for him not so great...if he sold will be at major loss also.
lambo stay or not doesnt matter much, but a decent backup option if hes used properly...
i think origi gonna be on bench most of the time, and brought out for cup games until we get knocked out from all then origi will start featuring more during 2nd half of season.

then dont forget the new push for benteke again after bacca reject LFC.
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No Benteke please.. shakehead.gif

He is just an upgrade of Origi, and his injury record is not very appealing.

Just ask Coutinho and Firmino sweet talk Neimar to come lar. laugh.gif
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post Jun 29 2015, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(horror2015 @ Jun 29 2015, 02:45 PM)
LOL u cannot compare a goalscorer with a joker. Suarez drops back, fights for the ball, runs up and down like a 3 year old kid in a big field. Balo stands there often, don't chase the ball, waits for opportunity. He is only hardworking in that small area.

Suarez is more of a team player. When he's there, it's actually 11 players. When Mario is there, it's actually 10 players. He's talented indeed, but u really need players that can supply him with the opportunity. BR doesn't build the team around him, and when he's lazy, it gets worse. U see how Suarez creates opportunities. But we don't see Balo doing it.
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There you go, its BR who doesn't build team around him, or in short, doesn't know how to utilise him. Suarez and Balotelli is a completely different players to begin with, you can't really expect Balotelli to run here and there and create something out of nothing.

But talking about their striker ability, of course Suarez is miles better, but Balotelli is not sucks either.
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post Jun 29 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(horror2015 @ Jun 29 2015, 03:17 PM)
LOL football is a team game. How can you build a team around the player? Even if they are to build it that way, the player himself should be hardworking and willing to create opportunities for himself too. Waiting most of the time for opportunity will cause the team to lose.  It's a 11 v 11 game, not 10 v 11.
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You didn't catch what I wrote there huh? I am just sarcastically saying BR doesn't build a team around him. Hardworking or not, able to create opportunities or not, its boils down to the player own ability. You can't expect all the players to be as good as Suarez to create something out of nothing. There are other players like Balotelli, a target man, a pure striker that did great. Let's just take the greatest example, Zlatan, this guy don't give a fuck to anything, he doesn't run around, but he deliver goals all the time.

You might say Balotelli doesnt deliver goals, but lets look back at his successful spell at his previous club. In short, Balotelli just doesn't suit BR game plan, the TC/BR simply fucked up and ruined Balotelli career because of panic buy.
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post Jun 30 2015, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 30 2015, 10:04 AM)
Well that's the truth, some kinda burst the Internet when the rumour of pako, hypia, and even carrager as assistant manager.

Now, wait, wait n see it's Rodgers old pal again.  laugh.gif

I don't mind as long they work their guts in the game. The manager is the beacon of the team, hopefully after 3 seasons rodger must must delivery. It has been too many anggan anggan  rolleyes.gif
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Losing Sterling, having more than 5 new players. Next season is transition phase lar, please wait another season for the silverware. nod.gif
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post Jul 1 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jul 1 2015, 01:01 PM)
wait la you all, next season Rodger & O'Driscoll will unleash Liver B R A Z I L A  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

all playing expansive total football  tongue.gif
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Samba football is so outdated. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 1 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 1 2015, 05:47 PM)
Benteke for 32m, Maki or Marque?
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post Jul 1 2015, 09:36 PM

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Dafuq, it must be the 6-1 for Shaqiri to snub us...

And what the hell with that stupid price for Benteke, a normal person with a brain knows thats a stupid deal.


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post Jul 2 2015, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jul 2 2015, 06:11 AM)
I believe He is (in a way) I think he realise some stubbornness on certain tactics needed some tinkering.

The assembly of the new Liverpool players is pretty much his, as it was previously (I don't know why some cannot comprehend Rodgers had all final say). But this time the excuses transfer committee was to blame wears too thin to none.
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Stubbornness will not be cure in a season, BR will not realise that, his ego > more than anything else.

Let's look back, Caroll was axed because he doesn't fit BR game plan, BR doesn't need a target man. Then suddenly BR thinks that he needs a target man again, hence the purchase of Lambert and Balotelli. Then god knows why that both Lambert and Balotelli doesn't suit BR game plan again, BR doesn't need a target man again. All of a sudden, now BR want to buy Benteke, another target man, an overpriced target man. Am I too stupid to actually understand the whole purpose and logic for all this? rclxub.gif
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post Jul 2 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jul 2 2015, 10:24 AM)
Aiya, anti Rafa all said more than half (to them it's 70%) he bought rubbish players and some sickly striken rubbish la  tongue.gif

Rodgers bought (got) potential and characters one AND young British talent.  cool2.gif

Bershukur la wink.gif
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Lets be honest lar, the only success buy from BR is Coutinho and Sturridge only. Ok lar, let's put Suarez and Sterling in lar, he make the best out of both of them, hence can be sell for lots of profit. What else can be credited to him?
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post Jul 2 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 2 2015, 11:32 AM)
benzema 150k/week...u think FSG want? tongue.gif
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Its not very high considering Lovren take home 75k/week. laugh.gif
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post Jul 2 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jul 2 2015, 03:35 PM)
Ahlo, Suarez is before Rodgers time at lfc. Not sure that time he was at Swansea or still scribbling some notes at McDonald's.
Anyway, They say Rodgers is very good in young talents, maybe. Maybe some seniors don't listen because he comes across as a little naive..??

Let's hope all 'talents' when they mature a little gets shipped n sold for profit only.
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What to do, I am just trying to be nice to him, giving him credit for Suarez and Sterling sales. If not BR totally contributed nothing in Liverpool, I will not include the 2nd place and CL qualification when he own self fucked up the CL campaign.
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post Jul 2 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jul 2 2015, 04:07 PM)
Melebih la you, bagi charity backhand compliment.

Since on charity, what good has Brendan Rodgers do, did for Liverpool ?

1) good with the English press, not as witty as Dalglish and... Sorry sorry, godd points only  tongue.gif
2) keeping up with the players WAGs. I'll say he must be able to score well there.
3) lasted to 4 seasons, he is better than Roy
4) ..
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I memang melebih laugh.gif laugh.gif

Because the more I type, the more I feel BR is pathetic, he literally failed badly, but some how he still standing strong as the manager. He own self also said that he's the best man for Liverpool! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 7 2015, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Jul 6 2015, 01:24 PM)
dixon bonner joins liverpool from arsenal

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Weird bonner. whistling.gif

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