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carrer
post May 30 2015, 02:29 AM

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Get a detailed statement from his MT4. Then show it here, I will tell you if it is a risky investment.

Some investors will give, some don't. Assuming that he doesn't want to give, you ask him these 3 things:
1. How many percentage could he make a month.
2. How many percentage is his maximal drawdown.
3. Briefly describe his strategy.

Forex is a very high risk investment. Be careful.
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post May 30 2015, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ May 30 2015, 09:22 AM)

Btw how do I know if he really opened an account for me in MT4 that has 1000 USD in it ?
Yeah why ??
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Usually these "money managers" have 2 approaches in managing investors money.
1. They pool all the money and place it in one account.
2. They separate the accounts for each investor.

Since he didn't ask you to set up an account under your own name, I am assuming that he is putting the investors' money into one account (under his name/ his company's name). If this is the case, it is difficult for you to know if your money is injected into the account even if he shows you the account. If he has 5 million in the account, how will you know if your 500 is in there? Not possible.

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post May 30 2015, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ May 30 2015, 11:16 AM)
Anyway sir he replied me saying that I should create an account in MT4 under my name.

But then he'll trade for me and show me some techniques before I get to trade by myself.

So if the account is mine, am I able to monitor the process and know how much is it in there right ?
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That's good because he cannot withdraw your money. But he can definitely lose all your money. Judging from the way he talks (from the screenshot), I doubt his professionalism. Just my thoughts, he might be a genuine one.

Yes, you can see if your money is there.

Check this link:
http://thefxview.com/2013/08/05/difference...-pamm-accounts/

I personally will not invest until he shows me his myfxbook account or his MT4 Detailed Statement.

This post has been edited by carrer: May 30 2015, 11:57 AM
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post May 30 2015, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ May 30 2015, 11:58 AM)
The bold part is the important one , right?

I'll try to ask from him,

If he gave me ler, I show you okay?
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Okay, you can PM me if you don't want to put it here.
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post May 30 2015, 01:13 PM

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Based on this statement I cannot judge. A detailed statement has to be generated from MT4.

Looks like he is scalping (taking small profits). So, I really cannot tell you.

EDIT:

I have checked his Instagram. He probably doesn't need your money (500). If he needs your money to invest with him, something is really wrong.
He could make USD 500 in a few minutes, why would he need your 500?

This post has been edited by carrer: May 30 2015, 01:18 PM
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post May 30 2015, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ May 30 2015, 01:44 PM)
What might gone wrong?

Maybe he's just helping ?

Because as I mentioned earlier, he was introduced to me by a good friend of mine (which happened to be a gangster) , so maybe he's scared of offending me and my friend ?
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If you are willing to risk your 500, then why not.
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post May 30 2015, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ May 30 2015, 05:06 PM)
This is what happened.

Nothing to show up.
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Try clicking on different timeframe, H1 or D1.
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post May 30 2015, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(KeroroQ @ May 30 2015, 07:56 PM)
And for fund management I think you will need a license
in malaysia, anything happens maybe you can sue him LOL
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In Malaysia, you will not get the license easily. Unless you know 'somebody'. I have never heard of any hedge funds in Malaysia. To set up a fund, Singapore is a better place.
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post May 31 2015, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ May 31 2015, 10:33 PM)
I'm his downline calling him leader sounds good , ain't it ? tongue.gif

btw i'm shocked to see many of my members are under him shocking.gif

And one of his 3 partners live 8 houses away from me only OMG what a coincidence
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Then he must be an IB (Introducing Broker). He gets commissions on every trade that you make. That's how he earns.

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Example:
http://www.fxprimus.com/en/partners/introducing-broker


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post Jun 1 2015, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ Jun 1 2015, 01:09 PM)
Is this true ?
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Yes, you have to key in during the withdrawal. But before that it has to be linked. You cannot simply key in any bank account number.
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post Jun 2 2015, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ Jun 1 2015, 09:34 PM)
But I can only use the same bank account permanently ??

I have a junior savings account now but after 18, i am not eligible for it anymore
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Usually they will allow you to add more than one bank account. However, it's better for you to create a new savings account.
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post Jun 3 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 3 2015, 05:43 PM)
I'm trading via Phillip, per trade is 100,000 units for online, and 300,000 for call in.

margin is 5%

typical spread for my USD/MYR is 25~50

I dont see how the amount of investment can be small... I easily need to put 5 digit USD in to have a workable margin to cushion the movements
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Phillip is a Singapore broker, MAS limits their leverage. That's the maximum they could give you, 5% or 1:20 leverage. But other brokers outside Singapore offer more leverage, some 1:500. So, they don't need much capital. Some brokers also offer Mini or Micro account, even smaller capital is needed.
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post Jun 4 2015, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 4 2015, 01:56 AM)
Even ppl like IG ask for 5% margin. I don't see how any serious trading house will allow any less. Ofcourse there are 1001 online trading "plaforms" that I won't touch with a 10' long pole
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As mentioned earlier, MAS (Monetary Authority of Singapore) regulates the brokers in Singapore. They cannot offer more than that. IG Singapore is also bound to the regulations when they operate in Singapore. But IG UK and IG Australia don't have to. They offer more leverage. For example, for EURUSD pair, 0.5% is offered, which is equivalent to 1:200 of leverage.

Source: http://www.ig.com/au/margins
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post Jun 4 2015, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 4 2015, 10:42 AM)
IG Australia is asking for 5% margin for the USD/MYR that I trade in...

I -ONLY- trade in USD/MYR.... cause its a no brainer... just bet on MYR dying and you're good to go...

but I would advice against using IG for this as the typical spread of 150 pip is nonsense...

But my point is, even if the margin required is 0.5%, that just means you can absord upto 0.5% movement against u..... that is just begging to be forced buy/sell.
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Yes, it's true you will get a margin call on a 0.5% movement if you fully utilised the leverage. What else you trade besides forex?

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post Jun 4 2015, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ Jun 4 2015, 08:27 PM)
Really ?? My trader trades on EUR/USD every time using holy grail method.
Donno how much he profits now rclxms.gif
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How's your new account? Has he started trading your account?
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post Jun 12 2015, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ Jun 12 2015, 12:32 PM)
Update :

Account getting activated in a day.

My primary school's friend joined a month already driving Mitsubishi Lancer GT 2.0

But I think the car is very cheap and only paid down payment whistling.gif
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That is very good. Update us from time to time. We might be interested to join later. Under you of course. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 13 2015, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jun 13 2015, 05:55 PM)
actually forex is legit internationally but too bad in malaysia. anyway, nobody will expose their trading method la unless they having benefit on behalf. selling the trading technique is another different stories.  rolleyes.gif
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Sigh, I wished I were you and persuade them to tell me. smile.gif

QUOTE(supersound @ Jun 13 2015, 06:34 PM)
Nah, most of the people I know that gaining huge profit from it will keep their mouth shut whistling.gif
If forex is legal in Malaysia, trust fund will be the first business to gone case then follow by share market.
Share market won't die like trust fund as most retired old timers will still play share trading thumbup.gif
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Trust fund will not die off. There are risk averse investors and also 'unsophisticated' investors who will still invest in trusts funds. I really do hope that Malaysia will legalise forex.
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post Jun 13 2015, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 13 2015, 07:31 PM)
If forex is not legal, then how to you guys participate in forex? Or is forex a grey area? Neither legal or illegal?
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So far I have not come across any retail trader being charged for forex trading. But according to BNM, retail tradings with unauthorised brokers are illegal. All of the retail brokers are not in BNM's authorised list.

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