QUOTE(darrencw @ Dec 2 2015, 11:21 AM)
that would be a hideous sight.
but it's 2 cylinder ... ths sound ... then again, what are the main differences between mt07 and xj6?
the wheelie part is scary, how often does that happen really? is it common among newbs?
but then i don't really want to lose too much, hence xj6 seems like a good choice right now.
mt07 is a parallel twin, two cylinders side-by-side. xj6 is an inline four, four cylinders. xj6 is also quite a bit heavier (over 200kg) but is supposed to carry its weight better than a z800

can't comment on xj6 handling, but the mt07 is supposed to be pretty agile.
QUOTE(darrencw @ Dec 2 2015, 02:50 PM)
ok guys, just came back from one of kawasaki dealer in UPM area. perhaps you guys would know which shop / dealer it is.
tried to sat on z800, showroom bike, not demo unit.
initial impressions:
- overwhelming, VERY overwhelming. absolutely zero confidence with a lot of fear.
- heavy, though it looks good.
- fuel tank is too high.
z250
- comfortable, confident.
- price wise is very accessible.
- doesn't give the beastly feeling that z800 gave.
for now z800 would be definitely out of the picture. in consideration would be xj6 vs z250/300.
i enquired for the z300 which is in the show room, it is 5k more expensive with additional 50cc and ABS. is that a good choice at that price point? should i topup more and go for xj6 instead?
Funnily enough, the z800 is actually heavier than the z1000
IMO the z300 is very overpriced for what it offers. I'm not sure what the bike dealers are thinking with bringing it in, since it doesn't fit our license tiers which are 250cc/500cc/unlimited cc. Personally I also feel that z300 would be hard to sell in the future because of this.
Have you considered trying a ER6N? Second-hand ones are like 14k-16k, in fact I even saw one for 12k on Mudah recently

They are similar in size to the Ninja 250/z250 but with far more power (and IMO easier to cilok through traffic than a Ninja).