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ayanami_tard
post May 26 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ May 26 2015, 09:45 AM)
please revive A -10 Warthog!

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boyan offer modernized( new avionic,updated engine and fuselage,hud,rearmament) for export

so far republic of china is interested

can smoke them mundu to kingdom come laugh.gif apa tunggu lg ...;
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post May 31 2015, 09:45 PM

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seeing both kifv and adnan being deployed side by side is a rare sight indeed

QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 31 2015, 11:54 AM)
macam very low firepower only...
we need more powerfull and hightech gun, and SPH, MRL .... 
155mm look too old.。。。
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maf planned to get another Astross 2,basically making us the biggest astross users in the world.

G-5 is one of the most advanced towed howiter in SEA. everyone is either using soltam or M114(or D-30 122mm artillery)

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post Jun 1 2015, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Jun 1 2015, 08:14 AM)
if our Arty Regiments all use G5, that would be so nice...lots of firepower there..

or maybe we could get the SPH version, the G6
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Fh-70 is still useful tho. If u ask me we should get at least 50 more 155mm towed howitzer. Korean K179(improved version of M114) would be the cheapest option.

we should look into new 105mm as well.
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post Jun 1 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 1 2015, 09:57 PM)
Wonder how much of these rockets $12 Million USD can buy? These things are relatively cheap, weapons-wise.
Although part of the deal is for Malaysia license-producing the rockets.
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there's the issue of accuracy and necessity( do we wven need it? astross can lunch smaller munition too)
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post Jun 2 2015, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 1 2015, 11:29 PM)
Maybe for basic small truck-mounted MLRS or small multiple rocket battery?

Sorta like the Grad rocket launchers. Cheap and easier to deploy. Also saturation fire, baby! brows.gif

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post Jun 4 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 4 2015, 09:34 AM)
Don't think that would be such a good idea. These things can potentially swallow a lot of money now and in the future from the maintenance & operating costs. Finally, in the end become white elephant like Thai Aircraft Carrier.

I don't think Malaysian Navy right now can afford to deploy warships larger than Frigates-sized ships.
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it bcum white elephant becoz it's an aircraft carrier, meaning it dun have amphibious capability, cannot launch LCAC/landing craft, cannot carry (nor have much space) to carry mbt,aav,large trucks, etc

people tend to spout this thing before. yes it's a bitch to maintain but making a comparison between an LHD with aircraft carrier is pretty much wrong

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post Jun 4 2015, 10:10 AM

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This quite a good read regarding LHD/aircraft carrier issue

http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2...ier_107238.html
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post Jun 4 2015, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 4 2015, 12:11 PM)
You seriously think Malaysia can afford to buy and maintain a Mistral LHD? laugh.gif

Coz my prediction is we simply can't, the cost of purchasing and maintaining the ship and its airborne/amphibious units is simply too much for our economy and military budget. So probably it will spend most, if not all its service time tied up in dock. Even the two bare Russian Mistrals tied up doing nothing in St Nazaire is costing the French government  €5 Million per month to maintain the ships so they remain serviceable in case anyone wants to buy them later.

Same as Thai aircraft carrier, which has also spent most of its time tied up at dock because the Thai Navy can't afford to have it operational at sea. I call this a white elephant.

So how is the purchase of a Mistral LHD not a potential white elephant to Malaysia? hmm.gif
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I dun say having LHD is cheap, i say LHD≠aircraft carrier. when the thais retire their harriers, the aircraft carrier itself become useless because it cannot do much troop/logistics transport and/or amphibious mission. It doesn't have the ability(no stern door) or the capacity to do that
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post Jun 7 2015, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 7 2015, 04:10 PM)
but mindef already give RMAF Nuri to them, so i for see with 5 year army will not getting any new transport heli any more, just attack helicopter is possible.
feel sad here....
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bcos transport helo gotta be the lowest priority for the army now.

they have option to buy mi-171 on the cheap a decade ago but they decided against them

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post Jun 7 2015, 10:58 PM

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besides arent them blackhawk sedekah going to go to the army aviation corps?

QUOTE(James831 @ Jun 7 2015, 11:54 PM)
what about the ASW helo for TLDM? hmm.gif
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super lynx tu apa?

If anything, we should them wildcats bcos we already familliar with its predecessor

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post Jun 12 2015, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 11 2015, 04:20 PM)
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Nice fact: Vietnam People's Armed Forces currently has 24 Scud launchers with about 100 missiles, almost all of it is aimed at the PRC . And they're are capable of producing the Scud-B missiles by themselves.

That's a 100 more missiles Malaysia doesn't have haha laugh.gif
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Scud is normally only fitted with a 2,000 pound conventional warhead, which makes it nearly useless with that kind of CEP.


better increase our SS150 rockets as well as getting these

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVMT-300

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post Jun 15 2015, 05:37 PM

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suddenly that vita berapi design dun look stupid anymore

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jun 15 2015, 01:52 PM)
US Navy EA-18G 'Growler' shows off the silhouette of an F-22 on its 'kill score'

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Even the Raptor is not invincible.
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meanwhile at luftwaffe

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post Jun 27 2015, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Jun 27 2015, 11:45 AM)
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That's a lot of fag
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post Jun 29 2015, 08:51 PM

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taken from

http://www.asianmilitaryreview.com/the-amr...directory-2013/

tudm have mi-17?
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post Jul 15 2015, 02:33 AM

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What exactly that israel offer that other countries doesn't? missiles? UAVs? So long as israel doesn't get out of palestine and abide to pre-1967 border, there's no way we would buy anything directly off israel. ever. it's not like we boycott israel sampai kiamat.

case study; we oso boycott anything from pre-apertheid south africa, but now our trades with them amounts for billion of dollars. Even Sjirbia, whom we fought against under UN (and some clandestine ops with helps from brunei, indon and turkiye), even showcase their military product in DSA and LIMA on regular basis(not to mention plenty of sjirbian footballers cari rezeki in malaysia)

so what's the problem? give palestinian their right then we tok business
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post Aug 2 2015, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Aug 2 2015, 07:47 PM)
well if prefer mobility, lot much better this design, the price not cheap too. i remember news said mobile seabase need 2xx billion to built.
i think much easy just get Makassar-class LPD as seabase, cheap, easy operation and better design us by navy compare to  "offshore" design.
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2xx billion? what currency is that? rupiah? laugh.gif

this is used offshore oil rig la. not gonna be more than usd30 million. Refurb (install radar, sonar, sensors/listening device and rearm sikit2) , not gonna cost more than 10 mil. also since it is an oil rig platform(the oil rig is being dismantled to make for space)it doesnt even need maintenance like a ship does; engine maintenance, spares, fuel,hull overhaul, etc. A lot safer, more spacious and comfortable than what pinoy is using as sea FOB( a tilted, rusting ship being anchored facing china)
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post Aug 3 2015, 01:06 AM

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mistral harga member?
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post Aug 10 2015, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Aug 10 2015, 01:44 AM)
Venom SuperCobra/ Viper good idea for heli ops for Malaysia like in Sabah?

I am told they share some common parts bringing cost down?

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Share common part with what? if we use UH-1 like our neighbor maybe true but since we're not the point is moot
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post Aug 14 2015, 01:30 AM

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There's no permanent enemy or friends, only interest. That's Henry Kissinger's word right there

Also, Thai pose lower military threat to Malaysia than indon or pinoy.
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post Aug 18 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Aug 18 2015, 11:12 PM)
hmm.gif  hope they dont go backwards to conventional design like msia
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hurr just because mag on front= backward

even pla replace their advanced qbz97 with backward qbz 03, and the french is looking for backward design for FAMAS

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