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post Jul 4 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jul 4 2015, 08:32 AM)
Essm right? Why suddenly change back again to mica
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post Jul 4 2015, 11:49 AM

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Based on our past technology corperation with turkey, we should get these especially the mobile radar

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post Jul 4 2015, 12:06 PM

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TURKEY'S KORKUT Self Propelled Air Defense Gun System

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HISAR-A LOW ALTITUDE AIR DEFENSE MISSILE SYSTEM


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From FNSS.. brows.gif Deftech bila nak ambil?
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post Jul 4 2015, 12:12 PM

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*On not so friendly news

Chinese PLAN type 054A boat live-fire air defense missile drills

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Just me or it look darn similar to SM3 missile hmm.gif

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post Jul 4 2015, 03:34 PM

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what is this? when i google for gowind 1000

look like an early type 45

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post Jul 4 2015, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jul 4 2015, 03:52 PM)
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Type: Guided missile/multirole Destroyer
Displacement: 8,000 tonnes, standard
Length: 155.4 m
Beam: 21.3 m
Draught: 6.3m
Propulsion: 2 shafts Integrated electric propulsion(IEP);

    2× Rolls-Royce WR-21 gas turbines, 21.5 MW (28,800 shp) each
    2× Wärtsilä 12V200 diesel generators, 2 MW (2,700 shp) each
    2× Converteam electric motors, 20 MW (27,000 shp) each

Speed: 30+ Knots
Range: 7,000+ nm
Complement: 185 (accommodation for up to 240)
Sensors and
processing systems:

    SMART-L volume air search radar
    Integrated Sensor Mast with APAR multifunction radar ( Air/Sea search, guidance, targeting, gun targeting)
    Thales Nederland Scout (Low Probability of Intercept)surface search/navigation radar
    IRIST Infra-red/light enhancing/daylight camera sensor system x4
    Atlas Elektronik DSQS-24C hull-mounted sonar, medium frequency
    MK XII IFF system

Electronic warfare
and decoys

    Thales Sabre ECM suite
    8x SRBOC MK36 launcher
    AN/SLQ-25 Nixie torpedo decoy

Armament:

    13x Mk.41 8 cell VLS, typical loadout: 16x Tomahawk Cruise Missile, 72 SM-2ER (or SM-3, SM-6) SAM, 64 quadpacked ESSM SAM
    2× Quad Boeing AGM-84 Harpoon launchers (8 anti-ship missiles)
    Oto Melara 127 mm/54 dual-purpose gun
    2x RAM CIWS
    2x 35mm Millennium gun CIWS
    4x remote controlled 20mm cannons
    4x remote controlled M2 .50 HMG
    2x twin MK32 Mod 9 torpedo launchers with Raytheon MK46 Mod 5 torpedoes

Aircraft carried:

    1x NH90NFH
    2x MQ-8B Firescout.

Aviation facilities:

    Large flight deck
    Enclosed hangar

Other:

    2x SRHIB or 2x Spartan Scout/ Protector USV



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post Jul 4 2015, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 4 2015, 04:17 PM)
Oh they redesign it.
Then these is lot better than ugly L'Adroit. sweat.gif
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tat one DCNS ownself built and try to convince the french navy to purchase the gowind design by giving to them for free

Nonetheless, it ugly as fark even for a ship standard

somehow, they manage to sell the design to us. Luckily it not as ugly as that L'Adroit laugh.gif
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post Jul 4 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 4 2015, 04:30 PM)
That because they put up much better design when they show it to us.
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if it was that igly.. faceplam laugh.gif

BTW landed anti-air system by FNSS.. laugh.gif
It just a mounting of the SKYGUARD Oerlikon 35mm twin cannon onto a M113 chasis laugh.gif
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post Jul 4 2015, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jul 4 2015, 06:14 PM)
just fans boy design,
many design not logic and mistake,
i can say impossible to make it.  tongue.gif
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nevertheless.. it still a good looking destroyer wub.gif
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post Jul 11 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Jul 11 2015, 01:51 PM)
Ukraine Wants 1,000 Javelin Systems in Exchange for Nuclear Warheads

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KIEV (Sputnik) — Javelin is the American portable anti-tank missile system of the third generation, designed to target armored vehicles and low-flying targets.

"We need to understand that we must be prepared for any situation [in the southeast]. And also need to understand that Ukraine, which gave 1,240 nuclear warheads, should have the right to receive, if necessary, at least a thousand Javelins", Chaly was quoted as saying by Ukraine's Mirror Weekly newspaper on Friday.

On Thursday, US Joint Chiefs Of Staff Chairman Nominee Joseph Dunford said in his confirmation hearing that it would be “reasonable” to provide Ukraine with anti-tank missiles.

After Kiev began a military operation to suppress independence supporters in Ukraine's southeast in April 2014, Ukrainian authorities have repeatedly asked western states for lethal aid.

Washington has provided non-lethal military assistance to Ukraine, but has stopped short of providing lethal aid over concerns it would escalate the conflict.

In April, US Ambassador to Russia John Tefft said that the United States was not going to deliver the Javelin system to Ukraine.

The European Union largely opposes Washington arming Ukraine with lethal weapons.

http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150711/1024485322.html
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They can easily made the rpgs is needed. No need expensive javelin

One of the critic is thay the us army used javelin to target tents and mudd house. A usd 10000 weapon on a us30 tent.

Might as well use cheaper rpg to hit the tents
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post Jul 14 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jul 14 2015, 02:58 PM)
good for TNI-AU if they get it, this AEW&C much better/more system/sensor than Saab own Erieye AEW. can said much more complete packages.
to bad it using Israel tech inside.
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It the old legacy of mahathir

I dont see why we cant get from isreal.. we miss our a lot of things unlike indonesia
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post Jul 14 2015, 08:56 PM

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France and Russia Mistral Deal - Settlement Reached

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Russia and France have reached a tentative agreement on compensation payable to Moscow as a result of Paris' decision to cancel the delivery of two Mistral helicopter carriers. The cancellation of the Mistral deal reportedly will cost France about $1.3 billion. The agreement still must be signed by both Russian President Vladimir Putin and French President Francois Hollande, according to media reports.

France canceled the delivery of the two Mistral ships in November 2014. Hollande cited Russia's alleged involvement in the continuing crisis in Ukraine, saying the deal could not go through as there had been little progress concerning a ceasefire. Russia annexed Crimea in February 2014, and it purportedly hase provided military support to pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine since them.

French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian met with U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter Monday to discuss continuing Franco-American cooperation in conflicts around the world. Meanwhile, Russia's official Sputnik news agency reported that France's cancellation of the Mistral deal in 2014 was likely done at the urging of the U.S.

The Mistral deal was struck by Hollande's predecessor, Nicolas Sarkozy, in 2011. Originally, one ship had been scheduled for delivery in 2014 and the other had been set for delivery in 2016. If the Mistrals had been delivered, the deal would have been the first major arms sale by a Western country to Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, according to the Moscow Times.

Since the cancellation of the deal about eight months ago, Moscow and Paris have been negotiating how much France would owe Russia in compensation. Putin had suggested that this amount would have to pay not only for the costs of the ships but also for the additional costs incurred, such as the training of sailors. The tentative agreement in the area of $1.3 billion would represent a compromise between the parties.

France may be able to sell the ships to the U.S. or another NATO ally, although no buyer yet has been identified. Maintenance of the ships could be costing French taxpayers millions of euros a month, leading some to suggest that the cheapest option would be to sink them.


any one want to buy?
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post Jul 14 2015, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 14 2015, 09:04 PM)
French navy dont want to buy it?
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they already have two.. why need extra?
to sell to others
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post Jul 14 2015, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jul 14 2015, 11:32 PM)
later got mogok infront mindef ...hahaha  laugh.gif
ya miss alot good military tech,
now more and more European weapon got Israel tech inside, option for as is more limited now.
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it a legacy of mahathier.. just that it been too long. Enough of that

well this few year will have nothing to post about. laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2015, 08:27 PM

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Possibly The Last British Made MBT - The Challenger 2

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post Jul 17 2015, 09:04 PM

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http://m.9gag.com/gag/aVXq0PK

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Your type 90 bleeding menstrual... hahaha "jepun quality"

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post Jul 18 2015, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 17 2015, 09:42 PM)
Doesnt look likes a frigate to me.... just a patrol craft
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kita punya kedah class is called patrol boat but in actual a frigate size
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post Jul 21 2015, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jul 20 2015, 10:48 AM)
basically next 5 year we don't get any new hardware. like thpace say, nothink to post for next 5 year.
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well nothing interesting


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post Jul 22 2015, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Jul 22 2015, 10:17 PM)
depa dah prospect dah masa depan pertahanan depa......
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we ad frust.. those using the equitment lai frust
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post Jul 27 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jul 27 2015, 11:15 AM)
i agree Gowind same class to Indonesia Sigma 10514,even possible Sigma 10514 more better than our Gowind.
so what is your view Gowind positions ?
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The name itself is patrol vessel.

Unless u want to arm it with destroyer class weapon suite. Somehow like singapore formidable class which some could consider a mini air defence destroyer on steroid

Then again its size basically limit is range and amout of weapon it carries. This is not an issue for sg for defending their coastal area which is just small in comparison to our coast line

What the navy i think wanted is endurance for their ships. This again further limit the weapon suite and its price tag.

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