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post Jun 14 2015, 12:11 AM

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Chinese PLAN Type72 II Yuting LST (Haiyang Shan 936) observed recently docked at Huayang Jiao (Cuarteron Reef)

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the news of possible mobile artillery at those island china built might just be true. icon_idea.gif
it a landing ship which designed to transport vehicles
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post Jun 14 2015, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 13 2015, 11:33 PM)
I prefer type26.
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we pull out coz no money laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2015, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 14 2015, 12:15 AM)
we pull out coz no money  laugh.gif
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We just stated that we are interested only.
not even enter into discussion. laugh.gif
Anyway I wont be surprise if it was chosen for tgpv. tongue.gif
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post Jun 14 2015, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 14 2015, 01:08 AM)
We just stated that we are interested only.
not even enter into discussion.  laugh.gif
Anyway I wont be surprise if it was chosen for tgpv. tongue.gif
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i think it was uk who asked us if we are interested, and we were still evaluating the SGPV

in end, we decide to go for a ready design rather than the one that even builder canot finalized

Plus, it designed for gast tubine engine, I heard our navy swore nvr to go turbine anymore hmm.gif hmm.gif



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post Jun 14 2015, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 14 2015, 01:23 AM)
i think it was uk who asked us if we are interested, and we were still evaluating the SGPV

in end, we decide to go for a ready design rather than the one that even builder canot finalized

Plus, it designed for gast tubine engine, I heard our navy swore nvr to go turbine anymore  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Nah, it was not even in the sgpv.
If we were to go in it will be in differ deal probably they would put under disguise of lekiu batch2.
There is no fixed design for engine and it still depend on customers requirements.

ready design? That is quite bs if you look at our sgpv project.
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post Jun 14 2015, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 14 2015, 01:37 AM)
Nah, it was not even in the sgpv.
If we were to go in it will be in differ deal probably they would put under disguise of lekiu batch2.
There is no fixed design for engine and it still depend on customers requirements.

ready design? That is quite bs if you look at our sgpv project.
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I know it not even on the sgpv project.

Tat time we already have in mind what we wanted

I think it more bullshit when builder can decide what to be on the ship rather than the client own request.

Anyway, the global ship was in design almost 20 years. Requirements change design also changed. Compared to our sgpv, it really fast already
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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 14 2015, 01:49 AM)
I know it not even on the sgpv project.

Tat time we already have in mind what we wanted

I think it more bullshit when builder can decide what to be on the ship rather than the client own request.

Anyway, the global ship was in design almost 20 years. Requirements change design also changed. Compared to our sgpv, it really fast already
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Well to be fair global ship design from scratch while our sgpv based on gowind though they put up a major redesigning work based on our requirements.
it could be faster though if bns nodded on the initial request of the tldm.
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post Jun 14 2015, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Jun 14 2015, 12:15 AM)
we pull out coz no money  laugh.gif
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Malaysia is invited to the program
and we did not say no actually
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dont be surprise that we will get at least 2
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post Jun 14 2015, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 14 2015, 02:21 AM)
Malaysia is invited to the program
and we did not say no actually
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dont be surprise that we will get at least 2
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post Jun 14 2015, 07:28 AM

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French Navy Mistral & La Fayette Class in Tanjung Priok Port, Jakarta Indonesia.

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France to boost military ties with RI through naval mission
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France to boost military ties with RI through naval mission
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Lelong Mistral to indo?
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post Jun 14 2015, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jun 14 2015, 01:59 AM)
Well to be fair global ship design from scratch while our sgpv based on gowind though they put up a major redesigning work based on our requirements.
it could be faster though if bns nodded on the initial request of the tldm.
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not sure what design requirement,
i See DCNS own design Gowind 2500t more than enough, all weapon and spec we want also can fit it.
than it can start built faster, no to own copyright 3000t (extra cost), unless future AAW version base on this.
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 14 2015, 02:21 AM)
Malaysia is invited to the program
and we did not say no actually
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dont be surprise that we will get at least 2
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post Jun 14 2015, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jun 14 2015, 08:55 AM)
not sure what design requirement,
i See DCNS own design Gowind 2500t more than enough, all weapon and spec we want also can fit it.
than it can start built faster, no to own copyright 3000t (extra cost), unless future AAW version base on this.
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the 2500t is based on our redesign layout.


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post Jun 14 2015, 11:23 AM

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Vietnam's K-300P system can attack Chinese targets in Hainan

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Vietnam's K-300P Bastion-P mobile coastal defence missile system. (Internet photo)

The People's Navy of Vietnam is capable of launching a direct attack against Shanya Naval Base located on the island of Hainan with its K-300P Bastion-P mobile coastal defense missile system, according to Kanwa Defense Review, a Chinese-language military magazine based in Canada.

Vietnam devotes lot of attention to its coastal defenses due to its territorial dispute with China over the South China Sea. The K-300P Bastion-P introduced from Russia allows the Vietnamese navy to launch P-800 Oniks anti-ship cruise missiles designed to damage or sink enemy surface combat vessels. With an attack range of 300 kilometers, the missile can reach critical Chinese targets near the island of Hainan.

Since Hainan is now a staging base for People's Liberation Army to project its forces into the South China Sea, the K-300P Bastion-P has the potential to bring serious losses to China's South Sea Fleet. When engaging the Chinese navy in its costal region, the Kh-35E anti-ship ballistic missile with which the Vietnamese navy's two Gepard-class frigates and other warships are equipped is deadly to any Chinese vessels operating in the region.

The attack range of the Kh-35E is currently 130 km. However, this range can be extended to 260 km if the Vietnamese navy chooses to equip its warships with the more advanced Kh-35UE Super-Uran missile, according to the Kanwa Defense Review. The weapons systems could give Vietnam the edge in a potential asymmetric conflict against China.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150613000109
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post Jun 14 2015, 11:31 AM

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Invisible No More: US Stealth Subs to Lose Unbeatable Advantage

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US atomic stealth submarines have long enjoyed their unbeatable advantage to remain undetected beneath the oceans' waters; however, a new technological revolution is likely to nullify this advantage, undermining America's capacity to execute its ambitious foreign policy in distant waters, Professor of Strategy at the Naval War College James Holmes underscored.

"Unless US forces adapt to and lead the new competition, the era of unrivaled US undersea dominance could draw to a surprisingly abrupt close," Bryan Clark, the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA) analyst and retired US Navy commander, stated as quoted by the professor.

Almost 60 years ago US stealth submarines had become game-changers in underwater warfare, while the advent of nuclear propulsion allowed this craft to remain beneath the waves for protracted periods of time. No longer could anti-submarine forces rely on radio or radars in order to detect elusive US subs.
However, a new technological leap is about to upset the US Navy's applecart. Big Data, non-acoustic detection, and fire-control technology will allow hostile antisubmarine (ASW) forces to detect the traces of a US stealth sub, converting this information into tracking and targeting data.

"That's a grim prognosis in itself. Abrupt change begets major traumas in big institutions like navies. It's hard to get ahead of the process," Professor Holmes admitted.

However, the situation for US subs is not entirely desperate, the expert noted. Mr. Holmes suggested that submarines should now study both passive and active defense paradigms. They might act like naval aviation, namely the latest air-force F-22 and F-35 fighter jets, which rely more on "active countermeasures" such as electronic warfare than on stealth. "Naval airmen defeat or fool defenses rather than elude them," the professor elaborated.

On the other hand, fleets of unmanned undersea vehicles (UUVs) may extend the submarine's ability to counter ASW, while new torpedoes and Tomahawk anti-ship missiles "would help redress the imbalance between subs and access deniers."

Anyway, US stealth subs will no longer be able to disappear from their adversaries' view with impunity, the professor underscored, adding that it is more likely that the underwater theatre will resemble much of the aerial and surface theaters.

"In short, submariners will no longer be as exceptional as before… And subs will no longer be loners, sent forth to do great things in independent operations. In short, not just a technological but a cultural revolution is afoot. Embrace it," Professor Holmes concluded.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150613/1023330448.html
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China coastguard plans Wenzhou surveillance base as Beijing looks to bolster claims to disputed Diaoyu Islands

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China's coastguard, which has repeatedly sent vessels into waters near the Japan-administered Diaoyu Islands in the East China Sea, plans to build a base in Wenzhou in Zhejiang province to enhance surveillance, sources close to the matter said yesterday.

As Wenzhou is close to the Diaoyus, known in Japan as the Senkaku Islands, the coastguard hopes to improve its maritime surveillance as Beijing strengthens its claim to the islands.

The move follows earlier revelations that China's military was building large bases on the Nanji Islands, also in Zhejiang province but located closer to the Diaoyus.

Earlier this month, the website of the Zhejiang government carried a post that described the content of a meeting between officials of the Wenzhou city government and the coastguard that included the latter's plan to build the base.

The base will cover about 500,000 square metres, with a pier about 1.2km long.

It will have the capacity to berth six or more vessels - including ones up to 10,000 tonnes - and will have a hanger for aircraft and helicopters, along with a large-scale training facility.

Beijing has yet to choose the final location among several sites under consideration. Total construction cost is set at about 3.3 billion yuan (HK$4.2 billion), and the central government is to bear the entire cost.

The website noted that China had regularly sent vessels to waters near the Diaoyus since September 2012.

The coastguard said the base would protect the maritime interests of the islands. The main advantage of having the base in Wenzhou was that it is only 356km from the islands.

The website post has since been deleted.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-d...rveillance-base
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post Jun 14 2015, 01:24 PM

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Hi guys,

does anyone know how many CB-90 does the RMN operate?there are conflicting numbers from online sources and there were news that RMN is getting more for ESSCOM..
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post Jun 14 2015, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Jun 14 2015, 02:21 AM)
Malaysia is invited to the program
and we did not say no actually
hehehe

dont be surprise that we will get at least 2
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yeap, got budget still can buy it.

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post Jun 14 2015, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(ks1230 @ Jun 14 2015, 01:24 PM)
Hi guys,

does anyone know how many CB-90 does the RMN operate?there are conflicting numbers from online sources and there were news that RMN is getting more for ESSCOM..
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well Wiiki listed we have 17 cb90, than last year order 12 more for esccom. than should be around 27+- ....

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