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Military Thread V17
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Aug 22 2015, 04:08 PM
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Aug 25 2015, 09:35 PM
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Aug 26 2015, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Aug 25 2015, 09:44 PM) Gripennn hahaahahQUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Aug 25 2015, 10:50 PM) Haiya baru mau misteri misteri |
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Aug 28 2015, 05:05 PM
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Aug 28 2015, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Aug 28 2015, 05:20 PM) maybe can buy other than fighter from uncle sam? like P8, B737 MESA, attack helicopter, Chinook etc. That toobut thers is a reason why SH will be picked the US wanted us to have a front role fighter too esp for Sea Strike role its a deterrence that actually favors them in this region |
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Aug 28 2015, 08:31 PM
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Aug 31 2015, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Aug 31 2015, 07:20 PM) From Scorpene scandal to Mistral mysterY sampah ni dah bercakap dah![]() Read more : - http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...istral-mystery/ |
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Aug 31 2015, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Aug 31 2015, 08:12 PM) ![]() from LTZ post https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3695943 why i see only 1 pilot using french helmet. The rest still ruskie? |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Aug 31 2015, 09:00 PM) happy Merdeka to Malaya.Thank you to all security personnel past and present for preserving the freedom that have been enjoyed kkikikithank you also to the British and commonwealth forces who helped achieve and subsequently defend Malaya's independence (even though they could have just left like the FRENCH) sompek lagi hahahaha |
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Sep 3 2015, 01:14 AM
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Sep 3 2015, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Sep 3 2015, 12:28 PM) iinm our sukhoi also manja. kena stay dalam air conditioning hangar ... not like mig 29 can stay in open hangar for QRF. Nope, mkm sit in a new hardened bunker made just for the MKM. During lima you can see the MKM are left just like that on the hot tarmac, same like other plane, even the China plane. Buat the last time the typhoon need a cooler to cool the plane off.correct me if ayam wrong atreyuangel KYPMbangi |
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Sep 3 2015, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 3 2015, 09:04 AM) we are piggyback from the Indiawe should get what India get only smaller in quantity QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Sep 3 2015, 09:43 AM) u sure ar bro PR liddat?? aik, awat ko gi JPM?ayam wented to EPU at jabatan perdana menteri last week to ask additional budget for a mesia spec ops team upgrade..not much..additional rm30million onli but EPU & MOF basically said fuck off.....ayam questioned where did money from 6+ billion from GST wented..money from 2.6billion donation wented? amount small onli miaa..the whole meeting basically laughed...ingat ayam main2 budus lorr the current gomen...dont say ayam tak payung ar...really hopeless liaooo bukan gi MOF ka? meh pm no kompeni aku check kat matra punya database sat, situ suma kompeni register ngan mindef bleh check |
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Sep 3 2015, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Sep 3 2015, 08:07 PM) Now any gomen project more than 50 million needs to go to value management LAB 1st...ayam involve project 100mill ++ liaooo....Najib Ah Jib Gor like Lab liaooo...everything oso need LAB...lololol oo gi JPM tuk endorse laEPU handles the vmlab....they do report bla3...they endorse bring MOF liaoo....then MOF shot down...now 3 times liao vmlab...b4 this always do at 5 star hotel...third time money finish edi so do at main meeting room at EPU onli...lololol siyesly lar gomen jabatan really sien in managing money u wat gred ar..usually gomen pipu i deal with gred 54 and above...so many title liao...setia usaha bahagian..pengarah normal liao...army equivalent to brig gen above..pulis ayam think ACP above...ketua penolong pengarah kanan kiri tengah liaooo....tooo many title larrr...wadefakk...hahaha so u gred wat ar? lower than 54 all rubbish cannot make decision in meeting....buang masa liaoo...only come and eat food than blah...hahah hehe ko kene pandai politik le kalo nak lepas |
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Sep 3 2015, 09:01 PM
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Sep 4 2015, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(titarium @ Sep 4 2015, 03:50 PM) 1 - MY isn't actively engaging this activity , unless wanted to counter terrorist & pirates at their home base ! But back to square 1 , when country is poor don't spend too much on defense , buy what is necessary , the same amount of money rather spend on Patrol Vessel + New Helicopters for Coastal defense especially for Sabah & Straits of MLK to counter piracy (now this is a real threat) . 2 - If Malaysia is Rich buying an Aircraft Carrier is not even an issue , currently maintaining the destroyer also faces financial constrain , buying replacement craft for Mig 29 had been postponing for such a long period clearly indicates that the Defense Ministry is tight on budget, moreover any contract that isn't sign 2 years back (or more) had just increase at least 20% in price . 3 - Btw MY Navy doubt owning >20 Heli , buying Mistral also means need to buy at least another 10 Helis -> else what's the purpose of buying this LHD ? As of now, I would support more Patrol Vessel + Heli than getting Mistral as a LHD ( but actually is still an assault vessel) . 2. LOL, apa nama destroyer yang Malaysia ada? 3. If you aware of the situation, the TUDM are in a planned to add more helicopter other then then 1st batch of the Super Cougar, and the PUTD is also are second in line to have their own transport and utility heli. 4. Attack heli and gunship helicopter plan in the future. The LHD/MPSS/MRSS addition to ATM is actually will give more advantage (if you look much more deeper rather then looking to just figure and number) as a show off force and proper power projectile in the dispute region. If the Marine corps establishment come thru in the future this kind of platform is useful. ps: are you Kua Kia Soong? |
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Sep 4 2015, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Sep 4 2015, 05:14 PM) launching attack by deploying 2 LCAC full of marine forces and equipment then yes QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 4 2015, 05:26 PM) depend on the SOP,if it just as a SOF near spratly then or nearby support bases then not really as the ship have their own defense even though limited QUOTE(titarium @ Sep 4 2015, 06:12 PM) Please dont link someone to any opposition member if they oppose an idea. My stand was base on necessity and current financial situation . Haha rilek brader, me pulling your leg oni, trust me if you are KKS you are going to have more horrendous remark from me.Bare in mind there's a difference of TUDM & TLDM , Few things need to point out : - Heli to use on LHD have to take on strong wind and have higher shock & vibration requirement while landing on choppy waters or even stormy waters , so TUDM's craft may no be applicable for TLDM (Navy) - Mil don't buy a vessel ( carrier / LHD) then fill up on a later stage due to budget constrain , there must be budget for Helis in place for Mistral - Mistral is TLDM's business so TUDM discuss seperately. The number of Patrol Vessel should be in the >20s figure ,to have a close guard on Malaysia coastal lines. Naming any vessel doesn't prove anything , and referring to destroyer you mean frigates ? (my mistake on this) While raising question on happenings on Sea of Sulu and Spratly Island , in point of modern war fare getting a Mistral especially for Spratly Island is intimidating , as for the pirates getting Mistral means to dock and clean their home base else why you need Vessel which can carry 40-60 APC/MBT/IFV for ? Buying a Mistral now also give reason for SG to purchase an aircraft carrier , they have the money and they have surplus of aircraft (Don't know where to place !! ) , further more with their deal on F-35 (undelivered) means buying an aircraft carrier will just raise the the bar higher. My point is Mistral isn't the priority there are other requirement which need to full fill, before getting such a size of LHD/MPSS/MRSS class of vessel , Fill up the other necessity , TLDM is crying for more advance and complete equipped vessels , more helis to serve their coastal requirement , not a Mistral to show of strength and power to our neighbors especially in time where deficit is hitting hard. OK here is what you missed out. All ATM helis from the A109 PUTD, TUDM Nuri and Cougar are sea capable as one of the requirement of the ATM is the heli must able to conduct sea mission that include landing and docking on ships for very long time. So your first argument is already invalid. On regarding filling up the LHD, yes you are correct that they won’t buy first and fill it up next. Usually this kind of thing is planned out during the procurement especially when it involving the type of the engagement and the role of the LHD in the forces that include the type or size of the LCAC or other amphibious vehicle that the ship shall compliment. But helicopter? That is a whole other chapter, what matter is what inside the ship and not what on top of the ship. As the ship is an amphibious craft first and a heli docks second. The ship with just utility and transport helicopter still can continue to do its job. You don’t need gunship then needed to buy one. “Mistral is TLDM's business so TUDM discuss seperately.” This is where you wrong big time. It is the ATM business and not TLDM alone. Yes TLDM will be the one operating it, but until the the NAVY going to have their marine corps and their own utility and transport air wing they will still have to rely on Tentera Darat for infantry and marine forces and the Air Force respectively. We are not like the US where each branch can work independently. Our forces is small so since the establishment all branches always work together regardless branch. I agree that we need more patrol vessel and the addition and the replacement for the FAC, but if you know more regarding our navy. Since the decommission of the Indrapura, our forces are hit badly in term of logistical support. Only two MPSS that are working nonstop to cover the large waters of Malaysia. Mistral is not a priority, but if the French would offer hard to refuse deals for the ship they why not. BTW do you know that the Frenh deliberately doing this to f**k with the Egypt and Saudi. By doing this they can pump the price more for that 2 suckers as Malaysia do have that special connection with the French. Cheers |
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Sep 4 2015, 10:02 PM
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Sep 5 2015, 02:28 AM
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weed is so strong in this thread now
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Sep 6 2015, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(James831 @ Sep 6 2015, 06:58 PM) I count got 7 reefs claim by malaysia, are all of it have the present of malaysia army? no, they not gave up their claim, but not as serious on the claim thoughBrunei give up claim in south china sea already, right? Malaysia is only looking back to get back Amboyna and Commodore reef which they lose in the 60/70s |
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Sep 6 2015, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(James831 @ Sep 6 2015, 08:03 PM) Take back those 2 would mean direct confrontation with vietnam and pinoy, how malaysia lost both in the 60/70s? both of the island is still under our original claimback then our navy and air force do not have as much ship as now we lack the asset to have constant presence on the island and believe it or not Philippines have quite a naval forces back then and so does Vietnam |
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