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post Sep 5 2015, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 5 2015, 12:59 PM)
well china cut 300k troops, means year can save at lease RMB 60 billion and inject to more high tech weapon and asset....
it more go to direction Elite PRC force.
we will face more stronger defense force.
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they will scrap Literature and art division, sport division, some military hospital, which not combat staff, so can focus on combat troops development.

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Does Malaysia’s military need a Mistral-class ship?

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tiger-talk-2zOnce again, rumours abound of yet another purchase by the government that aims to augment Malaysia’s defensive capabilities, funded by taxpayers. Right now, the question remains: Does Malaysia need an amphibious assault ship?

For clarity’s sake, Tiger is going to start off with this: the Mistral-class is not an aircraft carrier, at least, not in the traditional sense of the term; it is actually an amphibious assault ship. The Mistral has the ability to serve as a mobile base of operations for helicopters, rather than being one of those great ships with two or four catapults that launch fighter jets and cost a bomb or two to maintain.

And no, the Mistral has no way of launching the Rafale fighter jet. Yes, the Rafale has a variant that is meant for operating from an aircraft carrier, but the Mistral class is unable to support fixed-wing aircraft.

All right, now that Tiger is done being a military geek, Tiger will reiterate a key point: Why does Malaysia need one of these warships?

Of course, it is all well and good to declare that it is “for the defence of the nation!” and all that, but still, there is also the matter of compatibility, is there not?

As far as Tiger knows, the Mistral does not fulfil any specific role in the Malaysian defence forces. In the short term, the most Tiger can see it being used for is as a mobile helicopter base off the coast of Sabah to deter incursions. However, this is, to Tiger, the equivalent of using a high-calibre rifle to shoot the cheat opposite you at the poker table.

Even looking towards the long term, the funds used to procure, maintain, and train up the people to man the Mistral would be better served by building up a defence presence in Sabah and Sarawak.

Not only would this serve as a deterrent against incursions due to the bases or garrisons, but it would show that the government is concerned with the defence of Malaysia as a whole, rather than having everything concentrated in Peninsular Malaysia.

Mistral calss helicopter carrier in-storyWhether or not the funds are enough, well, let’s just put it this way. The procurement cost of the ship was estimated by Pandan member of parliament Rafizi Ramli as RM3 billion. Note that this is just the procurement cost – which is only the cost of buying the vessel – and does not take into account the costs to equip, maintain, and train people to be able to operate the vessel.

Furthermore, it should be noted that it is not possible to just dump helicopters already available on the warship, and expect them to function. Operating from a carrier is very different from operating out of an airfield, with the carrier bringing its own environmental issues that have to be guarded against.

First and foremost in this scenario is the issue of salt water. Salt water is corrosive, and the helicopters assigned to the carrier will have to be able to function properly and reliably over time in an environment where the air is highly humid and exposed to sea spray.

Next, is that these helicopters would then have a quicker “expiry date”, so to speak. While there are definitely steps that can be taken to harden the helicopters against the harsher environment of a carrier, there is only so much that can be done, and the helicopters will eventually succumb to corrosion.

As such, these helicopters would then have to be replaced. Of course, this means further expenditure, either by obtaining helicopters and refitting them for naval aviation purposes, or right out purchasing helicopters meant for naval aviation. And what about the cost of procurement, equipment, and maintenance of the helicopters, as well as the training for pilots?

The cost over time of the amphibious assault ship just seems to keep mounting, does it not? And what would the ship actually contribute in the long term on its own?

Note that the key phrase there is “on its own”. The ship on its own, without the requisite support elements, infantry, and hardware to use it with, would stand useless.

Tiger hopes that the government will look into overall costs and benefits thoroughly when making its choice for defence procurements, rather than acting like a child walking into a toy store. There really is no point having a big fancy ship if there is no money to maintain it, no people who know how to use it, and nothing to use it with.

GRRRRR!!!

http://www.kinibiz.com/story/tigertalk/187...class-ship.html

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3rd batch delivery of 25 Leopard 2s & Marder IFVs for the Indonesian Army arrived today. Credit to 14aste.

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post Sep 5 2015, 08:32 PM

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Army to conduct drills with Indonesia, Malaysia

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The annual bilateral exercise between the Philippine Army and the Malaysian Army, dubbed the Training Activity Land Malaysia-Philippines (MALPHI), is scheduled from Sept. 9 to 21 at the Peacekeeping Operations Center in Camp O’Donnell in Capas, Tarlac.

“MALPHI aims to enhance the long-standing professional relationship and cooperation between the two armies,” Col. Jose C. Faustino Jr., the Philippine Army’s Assistant Chief of Staff for Training and Education, said in a statement.

“These cross trainings are part of our international agreements that aim to develop and promote cooperative activities in the defense and security of our respective countries,” Mr. Faustino further said.

In the 16th Philippine-Malaysian military exercise, 76 troops of the Philippine Army and another 30 soldiers from the Malaysian Army will be participating.

Meanwhile, a contingent of the Philippine Army is also participating in the Training Activity DOLPHINE with the Indonesian army from August 24 to September 6, at the headquarters of Komando Pasukan Khusus in Bandung, the capital of Indonesia’s West Java province.

An annual bilateral training event, the Training Activity DOLPHINE, focuses on the exchange of information, techniques, tactics and procedures in the conduct of counter-insurgency operations, according to the Philippine Army.

It also involves the discussions and knowledge-sharing regarding other military operations, including humanitarian assistance and disaster response operations.

Twenty personnel from the Philippine Army’s Special Forces Regiment (Airborne) and 20 members of the Indonesian army are participating in the joint military exercise.

The commander of the 80,000-strong Philippine Army, Lt. Gen. Eduardo M. Año, said they will continue with these activities with foreign armies to enhance military relations with other countries and to have a venue to develop the capability of their troops. -- Alden M. Monzon

http://www.bworldonline.com/content.php?se...aysia&id=114742
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UAE May Buy French Warship Built for Russia

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The United Arab Emirates is interested in buying one of two French warships originally intended for Russia, according to multiple news reports.

France built the two Mistral-class helicopter carriers for Russia, but canceled the deal after Russia annexed Crimea from the Ukraine last year. France has since agreed to pay Russia more than $1 billion to settle the transaction.

Now, one of the vessels may go to Egypt and another may go to the UAE, according to a recent article in the Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets. A UAE official also confirmed the country is interested in buying one of the ships, according to a story in Defense News.

The French navy operates three of the same type of amphibious assault ship, each of which can house more than a dozen helicopters, several dozen combat vehicles, hundreds of troops and a hospital with several dozen beds.

In 2010, a group of U.S. senators, including John McCain, now chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, urged France and other NATO allies not to sell military equipment to Russia and then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates said he was concerned about the deal.

It wasn’t until Russia stepped up military activity in Eastern Europe last year with support for pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine and the subsequent international sanctions levied against Russian officials that France decided to reconsider the warship sale.

France’s training last summer of Russian sailors aboard the first Mistral ship in the French port city of Saint-Nazaire angered its Western partners, who claimed the delivery of the ships would undermine their joint efforts to isolate Russia and condemn its annexation of foreign territory, according to an article in Agence France-Presse.

Saudi Arabia has also reportedly expressed an interest in buying one of the ships, according to a story in the French newspaper Le Monde.

http://www.dodbuzz.com/2015/09/04/uae-may-...ilt-for-russia/
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Sep 5 2015, 11:30 PM)
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post Sep 6 2015, 01:43 AM

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Nice..thanks...
Btw i read some where the production or producer next project is the blackhawk incident in somalia..huhu
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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 5 2015, 12:59 PM)
3rd batch delivery of 25 Leopard 2s & Marder IFVs for the Indonesian Army arrived today. Credit to 14aste.

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The delivery consists of:
- 14 Leopard 2A4
- 6 Marder 1A3
- 2 Leopard ARV
- 2 Leopard AEV
- 1 Leopard AVLB

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Looks like the first batch Leopard 2RI (MBT Revolution) are scheduled for delivery in 2016.

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 6 2015, 09:38 AM)
Looks like the first batch Leopard 2RI (MBT Revolution) are scheduled for delivery in 2016.
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This shipment matches with last year's planned schedule....the next shipment is December 2015....there are four more shipments.

61 units of Leopard 2RI are ordered, so early units should arrive at April 2016



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Brigjen Sisriadi menyatakan, sebanyak 124 unit MBT Leopard dan tank Marder datang secara bertahap. “Sebanyak dua unit MBT Leopard dan dua unit tank Marder telah diserahkan pada 22 Septmber 2013. Sebanyak 26 unit MBT 2A4 plus 26 unit tank Marder rencananya daang pada pekan pertama September mendatang,” katanya kepada Republika Online, kemarin.

Jadwal selanjutnya, ada 21 unit diserahkan pada Desember mendatang. Pada 2015, datang empat gelombang pengiriman, yakni 25 unit pada Maret, tiga unit pada Juni, 21 unit pada September, dan 21 unit pada Desember.

“Sisanya, 24 unit diserahkan Rheinmetall ke Kementerian Pertahahan pada April 2016, 14 unit pada Juni, dan pengiriman terakhir sebanyak 21 unit diserahkan November 2016,” kata mantan kepala Dinas Penerangan Angkatan Darat tersebut.

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600,000 personnel to be cut from PLA Army: retired general

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Ning Zetao, a swimmer in one of the PLA's sport teams. (Photo/Xinhua)

Beijing is set to cut its military forces and may readjust the ratio between its army, navy and air force from 72:11:17 to 5:2.5:2.5, reports our Chinese-language sister paper China Times.

If the adjustment is made, the number of troops in the navy and air force will be increased while that in the army will be reduced from 1.6 million to 1 million.

Retired major general and China Arms Control and Disarmament Association committee member Xu Guangyu said the military personnel cut is positive for the People's Liberation Army because it suggests the Chinese military is moving towards valuing quality over quantity.

According to a Chinese defense ministry's white paper published in 2013, the PLA has 398,000 personnel in its air force, 235,000 personnel in its navy and over 1.6 million personnel in its army. A stronger navy and air force are needed to win wars in the future which are increasingly relying on information technology, said Xu.

China's Ministry of National Defense said the cut will focus on reducing outdated equipment and non-combat personnel as well as streamlining its structure. Xu said the country's Armed Police Force may be transformed into a National Guard.

Sources claimed the troops that will be cut may be transformed in to ten armed police tactical units and 100 armed police warfare groups and they are both likely to be stationed in the Xinjiang Uyghur autonomous region.

Xu said troops affected in the personnel cut will not have any problem returning to civilian life since China has established a comprehensive mechanism to help soldiers transition from military to civilian life.

The retired official predicted that the personnel cut is most likely to involve the PLA's art troupe and sports teams. He said it is unnecessary for the Chinese military to train their own entertainers and athletes and the two departments should be privatized.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...=20150906000016
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